Okay, here is the deal.
This video did exist at one time and the article does not refute that.
Per Crump's remarks snipped
Trayvon's brother's remarks snipped
And the Martin family lawyer said the video is just another attack on Martin’s character.
We are aware that his brother is denying it is Trayvon, however...keep in mind, people are denying a multitude of things attributed to Zimmerman too. Yet, we freely permit speculation about the credibility of those things. That speculation works both ways.
Newly obtained video recorded before Martin's death
shows the teenager encouraging others to fight. However, Martin's brother said Trayvon is not in the video.
No one here is denying that Trayvon's death is a horrible, tragedy. However, it is obvious from the docs that have been released there was a physical altercation before Zimmerman fired the gun that killed Trayvon. GZ has never once denied shooting Trayvon. Though not formally claimed in court, it is OBVIOUS the defense is going to claim this is a case of self-defense.
The owners have known about this information for many weeks. It has been given it very careful consideration. They have spent hours carefully verifying the information. Rest assured, we have not permitted FAR more info than we are allowing here.
That said, this information is considered to be relevant as to the claims made by GZ - that he was attacked first. There is a huge point of debate over who initiated the physical altercation that eventually led to the shooting death of Trayvon. If Trayvon participated in fighting for whatever reason - be it sport or otherwise - that is relevant.
As to the complaints that TM is a minor - let's be honest here. Barely considered a minor, per the law. 17 yrs. old. We are not talking about a 12, 14 or even 15 yr. old sheltered minor kid here. He had plenty of life experiences here as the evidence indicates. It is dishonest to pretend otherwise OTOH, no one is insinutating that Trayvon was a bad, incorrigble teen who was predisposed to be anything less than a fine adult. No one is insinuating that he deserved to die at the young age of 17. He was simply a teen who was stumbling to find his way through....like almost all teens. By not permitting members to understand who Trayvon was by considering all of his qualities in a truthful light, would not be honest. He was an honor roll student too. Trayvon had a lot of good qualities. None of us are perfect and I guarantee none of us were close to perfect when we were 17 yrs. old. It is what it is and this discussion is permitted.
THAT ALL SAID - We understand that this topic will offend many here. Understandable. HOWEVER, if you fall into that category, I suggest you just ignore the discussion and don't even click on this thread.
Because what is NOT going to be tolerated are posts expressing their disgust or complaints about the discussion even being permitted here. Feel free to email the owners with those points of view. Any remarks like that posted here will result in a TO. No one is going to be permitted to derail a discussion for those who are interested in the topic.
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Last edited by beach; 05-24-2012 at 02:14 PM.
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