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    CA - Sierra Lamar, 15, Santa Clara County, 16 March 2012 **arrest** - #17



    Sierra LaMar, 15, has been missing since Friday, March 16. She left home early that morning to walk to her bus stop for school. Her cell phone was found along a local roadway shortly after, and her purse/bag was also found later.
    Facebook page - www.facebook.com/help.find.sierra

    Sierra LaMar Suspect Under Surveillance Before Arrest

    DON'T GO ANY FURTHER UNTIL YOU READ THIS POST!

    no one has been cleared but the parents and boyfriend of Siera's mother have not been named persons of interest in the case and we will not be sleuthing or speculating about them at this time...

    No arguing, and be respectful of other posters. One opinion is no more valuable than another, and we're each entitled to our own.
    Posting links to Twitter accounts and FB pages of individuals other than the victim (and suspect if one is eventually named) is against the rules. Keep in mind that many of Sierra's friends are minors.

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    On March 19, 2009 a woman was attacked with a stun gun at Safeway on Dunne in Morgan Hill. Minutes earlier at the same parking lot a man followed a woman to her car and tried to break in. Then days later, on March 26th another attack occurred but this time a woman was assaulted by a man with a knife at the Safeway on Tenant. Investigators say Garcia-Torres is a suspect in one of these cases and a person of interest in the other two. They couldn't comment which one he is a suspect in.
    http://www.kionrightnow.com/story/18...to-more-crimes

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    Stun guns are an effective contact weapon but you must physically touch the person with the prongs of the stun gun. It is also best to hold it on them for many seconds.

    A Taser device such as the new Taser C2, allows you to repel the attacker from up to 15 feet away (7-10 feet being optimum target spread.)
    http://www.tbotech.com/stungun-vs-taser.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamamia54 View Post
    I'm thinking it was a stun gun though, I could be wrong though lol.
    I think you are right. I think someone posted a video here (maybe from CBS?) that said LE asked local PD if AGT DNA matched any crimes, and MHPD came up with a link to the attempted abduction w/ taser. I could be totally wrong though, I have read and watched a lot of different info today!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatfield View Post
    I remember reading the original post and now, in hindsight, I think it may have been spot-on.

    The folded clothes would fit right in with the theory that he attempted to make it look like she ran away, which of course, is kinda stupid for him if he did this because if she ran away, she would have taken the clothes with her. All it would do is make LE think somebody must have grabbed her where the clothes were found, and kind of confirm that she did not leave voluntarily. I think all he accomplished if he left that there is make LE look for her harder.
    I think he was really stupid (which is entirely possible) if he thought placing the purse there with her clothes folded inside would look like she ran away. Yeah, wouldn't she take the clothes with her? And, I never ran away from home, but if I was planning to, I would take a lot more than just one change of clothes. Sierra's mom left before she did and she was home alone, she could have easily packed a larger bag to take if that was the case.

    I think either he placed the bag there to throw LE off or he made her get out of the car and remove her clothes and place the clothes in the bag herself as a way to humiliate and to gain control over her. My only issue with the latter though is that this would mean she would be naked in the car which would be risky to drive around with her like that unless he made her get in the trunk or lay in the back seat covered up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fashionista_Gal View Post
    I think he was really stupid (which is entirely possible) if he thought placing the purse there with her clothes folded inside would look like she ran away. Yeah, wouldn't she take the clothes with her? And, I never ran away from home, but if I was planning to, I would take a lot more than just one change of clothes. Sierra's mom left before she did and she was home alone, she could have easily packed a larger bag to take if that was the case.

    I think either he placed the bag there to throw LE off or he made her get out of the car and remove her clothes and place the clothes in the bag herself as a way to humiliate and to gain control over her. My only issue with the latter though is that this would mean she would be naked in the car which would be risky to drive around with her like that unless he made her get in the trunk or lay in the back seat covered up.
    LE retrieved from his trailer a blanket, pillow and his shoes, so Sierra could have been covered with the blanket after her clothes were removed. MOO

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamamia54 View Post
    Stun guns are an effective contact weapon but you must physically touch the person with the prongs of the stun gun. It is also best to hold it on them for many seconds.

    A Taser device such as the new Taser C2, allows you to repel the attacker from up to 15 feet away (7-10 feet being optimum target spread.)
    http://www.tbotech.com/stungun-vs-taser.htm
    I would rather have a taser then...

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    Thought I would bring some things over from the other thread. I've searched every database there is to search, and these are the only missing young women that I was able to find.

    Maria Gomez

    Report Type: Runaway Juvenile
    Sex: Female
    Race: Hispanic
    Hair: Brown
    Eye Color: Brown
    Height: 4 ft. 10 in.
    Weight: 107 lbs.
    Date of Birth: 5/14/1997
    Clothing: Black jacket, black pants, brown ugg boots
    Last Seen: 1/20/2012
    Dental X-rays Available: No

    Maria was last seen on January 20, 2012, in Morgan Hill

    Marlene Sanchez

    Runaway
    Female
    Hispanic
    Brown Hair
    Brown Eyes
    5 ft
    140lbs
    Last Seen: 10/21/2010
    Birthdate: 5/19/1994
    Last Seen: October 21, 2010 San Jose

    Savanna Arellano

    Runaway
    Female
    Hispanic
    Brown Hair
    Brown Eyes
    5ft 2in
    110lbs
    Birthdate: 5/27/1995
    Last Seen: 2/3/2012 San Jose

    Angelea Raynor

    Runaway
    DOB: Dec 14 1994
    Missing: April 11, 2011
    Age: 17
    Gilroy, Ca
    Female
    White
    4ft 11in
    110bls
    Brown Hair
    Blue Eyes

    Debra E Sams

    Brown Hair
    Brown Eyes 5ft 8in
    100lbs
    Feb 15, 2011 missing
    16 years old
    San Jose


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    Quote Originally Posted by mamamia54 View Post
    On March 19, 2009 a woman was attacked with a stun gun at Safeway on Dunne in Morgan Hill. Minutes earlier at the same parking lot a man followed a woman to her car and tried to break in. Then days later, on March 26th another attack occurred but this time a woman was assaulted by a man with a knife at the Safeway on Tenant. Investigators say Garcia-Torres is a suspect in one of these cases and a person of interest in the other two. They couldn't comment which one he is a suspect in.
    http://www.kionrightnow.com/story/18...to-more-crimes
    He really resembles the composite to me. I'm sure the victims have ID'd him by now:
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    I think it is AMAZING how much he resembles this composite, round and nose, full lips....

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    Quote Originally Posted by outfire123 View Post
    I think it is AMAZING how much he resembles this composite, round and nose, full lips....
    I think it's also interesting that he grew the goatee after the first composite came out - makes his face look more elongated than round. Things that make me go hmmmm...
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    Juicy Bag - Cell Phone - Sierra's Home - Highschool - Both Safeways - Uvas Reservoir
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    MAY 22, 2012 SAN JOSE, CALIFORNIA
    PRESS CONFERENCE


    SGT. CARDOZA: Some important (indiscernible) here in the
    room today. Obviously, Sheriff Laurie Smith will be speaking
    in a couple minutes. She will make a statement. She will be
    available for a couple questions afterwards.
    We also want to acknowledge Christopher Carroll,
    supervisor in charge of the United States Department of
    Justice. FBI Jan Bennett, assistant supervisor in charge.
    And Mr. Donald O'Keefe from the United States Marshal's
    Office, Supervisor Wasserman of County Supervisors here as
    well, as well as Jeff Thomas from our search and rescue team.
    Sheriff Smith.

    SHERIFF SMITH: Thank you. And thank you for being
    patient with us. As you're aware, we did make an arrest last
    night.

    I'd like to start off by expressing condolences to
    Sierra's family. It's a very difficult time for them. And on
    behalf of all of law enforcement, all of the volunteers that
    have been involved in this investigation -- they've been so
    dedicated. They've worked very hard to come to this point.
    After about two and a half months of continuous
    investigation, with collaboration of all local agencies, state
    agencies, federal agencies, we really would like to
    acknowledge the United States Marshal that's here, the
    supervising agent in charge from the FBI for their early
    efforts and their commitment for personnel.

    This has been very, very labor intensive. We've used a
    lot of man hours, a lot of volunteer hours from our search and
    rescue team. For that, we're grateful.
    Our investigation has led to the identification of
    Antolin Garcia-Torres as the person responsible for the kidnap
    and murder of Sierra LaMar.
    We developed this through our
    investigation based on direct and circumstantial evidence,
    including forensic analysis conducted by the Santa Clara
    County District Attorney's Crime Lab.
    The discovery of Sierra's cell phone, her clothing, what
    she wore that day, and her personal belongings have
    contributed to our belief that -- that Sierra's a victim of
    murder.
    Early on, when our deputy first responded to a missing
    child report, he knew immediately that this was not just a
    runaway. This was something that was more significant. So
    early in the investigation, we had tremendous resources out
    there searching.

    We found the bag of clothing less than two days after she
    was reported missing. And our search and rescue team found
    that two miles from her house. A two-mile radius is a huge
    radius to search, and it was that clothing that was really
    instrumental in identifying the subject.

    Off of her property in the bag, we found DNA from Antolin
    Garcia-Torres. It was that DNA that was placed into the
    system that -- that revealed the identity. We received those
    lab results on March 28th.

    And from March 28th until present time, we've had
    24-hour-a-day surveillance on Garcia. We needed additional
    information. We were continuing the investigation. We were
    hoping that he would lead us to where Sierra was. Our
    surveillance efforts were -- were around the clock because
    public safety was our primary concern.

    We also have information that we've just recently
    developed that there were three assaults in Morgan Hill about
    three years ago, in March of 2009. We have linked one of
    those to our suspect through forensic evidence. He was booked
    last night for murder and kidnapping.

    The family is here. We're not certain if the family will
    come down and talk with you. I believe that they will, but
    this is a very, very difficult time for them. And we just
    really wish to express our deepest condolences to the family.
    I'll take some questions.

    A REPORTER: Laurie, what prompted the arrest?
    DNA from her property that we found two days after. That led
    to the suspect. We seized the suspect's vehicle on -- on
    April 7th, at the time we did search warrants. We have
    physical evidence linking Sierra to his vehicle.

    A REPORTER: Any possible motive why did the worlds
    collide?

    SHERIFF SMITH: We don't know that. It's my belief this
    was purely random. It was an absolute stranger abduction.
    There's no information that we have of any type that the two
    know each other, have had any contact. We believe this is the
    worst kind of a crime, a stranger abduction of a young girl.

    A REPORTER: DNA found in that bag, what was it? On the
    clothes in the bag, what was it?

    SHERIFF SMITH: I'm not sure what item it was on. It was
    found in multiple places on her property. And we're not going
    to comment any more on -- on the type or the nature of the
    DNA. But it was enough DNA to link him within the CODIS
    system identifying him as the person.

    A REPORTER: April 7th, the car, did you ever have
    contact and interview him, and did he know he was under
    surveillance and stayed in the area?

    SHERIFF SMITH: I believe that he may have believed he
    was under surveillance. We don't know that for sure. We've
    talked to him multiple times. Last night after his arrest was
    the first custodial environment interview that we've had with
    him.

    A REPORTER: Talk about that conversation. Has he
    admitted to the crime? Is he going to take you to the body?

    SHERIFF SMITH: We have gained some value from our
    interviews with him, but nothing substantive. And we hope at
    some point he does tell us more than he's telling us now.

    A REPORTER: What makes you think she's dead? What gives
    you that --

    SHERIFF SMITH: Sierra was a very social girl. She had a
    lot of friends. She communicated with her friends all the
    time through social media outlets, through telephoning. From
    the time that she was reported missing, there was absolutely
    no contact.
    There has been no contact with any of her
    friends. We have no reason to believe that she ran away. We
    now have a stranger who we identified through DNA on her
    property.
    Also, her property she threw away or discarded --
    she did not throw away. Discarded was her property that she
    would have taken -- that she would have taken with her,
    including medication.

    A REPORTER: Sheriff, do you know if he ever took the car
    to the community searches for Sierra?

    SHERIFF SMITH: I don't believe he did. But -- but I --
    we haven't confirmed that.

    A REPORTER: Can you tell us if there were any other
    suspects to this person, anybody else knew or participated
    in --

    SHERIFF SMITH: Early in the investigation, we had many,
    many suspects. We did additional surveillances other than
    with him. Right now, we believe he's the only person
    responsible for the kidnapping and murder of Sierra.

    A REPORTER: (Indiscernible.) You said items were thrown
    out. Is it possible he's got her somewhere stashed away
    somewhere? Is it a possibility?

    SHERIFF SMITH: We have a lot of direct evidence. We
    have circumstantial evidence. We believe that the facts
    that -- that I've just talked about lead us to believe this.
    These are very, very difficult cases to prosecute, a
    homicide when you have not found the victim, but it has been
    done, and I think that we have adequate facts. In fact,
    strong facts to believe that she has been murdered.

    A REPORTER: I mean, is he a Morgan Hill resident?

    SHERIFF SMITH: He is a Morgan Hill resident.

    A REPORTER: Does he live in that neighborhood?

    A REPORTER: He doesn't live that close in the
    neighborhood, but he's familiar with the area. He's spent
    most of his life, if not all of his life in that area, and he
    is a resident.

    A REPORTER: Does he have an alibi?

    SHERIFF SMITH: Again, he has not been totally disclosive
    with us in it, so we haven't had an opportunity to test any
    alibi.

    A REPORTER: With regards to (indiscernible) 2009, were
    they sexual in nature, or were they physical assaults?

    SHERIFF SMITH: They were physical assaults that were not
    completed, if you will. And I know it's been widely reported
    in the media. One was where a taser was involved but the
    victim managed to get away. Another one was where the victim
    had a knife that had been used against her. And the other one
    was he was not able to get into the victim's car. She had
    locked it. Those have been reported by the media, and one of
    those we have linked through evidence to our suspect.

    A REPORTER: Which one? Taser, the knife, or the --

    SHERIFF SMITH: You know, I don't remember which one it
    was.

    A REPORTER: Did you locate blood in the vehicle that
    matched Sierra LaMar?

    SHERIFF SMITH: We have not located any blood. But we're
    not commenting on -- on really any of the physical evidence.
    We want that to remain confidential. Our focus right now is
    continuing to search and look for Sierra. And we hope that we
    have reached a successful prosecution on the person who did
    this.

    A REPORTER: Why was he in the database to begin with?
    What had he done?

    SHERIFF SMITH: He had -- he has a prior conviction for
    interfering with an officer. That's a misdemeanor. He has a
    prior felony arrest for an assault. That's what got him into
    the database. But that was not prosecuted.

    A REPORTER: If you believe that she is dead, do you have
    any sense of how long she lived?

    SHERIFF SMITH: We don't know that. We don't know that.
    When we look at these types of cases -- and when I mentioned
    and thanked the FBI for their assistance early on in the
    investigation, we had their team of their child abduction
    experts from all over the country come.
    We had their Behavioral Analysis Unit from Quantico, Virginia, who talked a
    lot to us about these types of cases, what to expect, and it's
    based on their research of these kinds of cases.
    And what we're finding now that we have a suspect, we're
    finding that much of what they thought could have occurred
    really is -- he's not a registered sex offender. That's one
    thing that they told us right away. We were actually
    surprised, because one of the first things that we did was to
    look at all the registered sex offenders, and they said in
    these cases, it's a very small percentage. So working with
    them was really important in the beginning. And the
    probability of homicide in this is also very, very strong for
    these types of cases that have been studied and researched by
    the FBI.

    THE DEPUTY: Two more questions.

    A REPORTER: I think a lot of people were concerned that
    (indiscernible) found Sierra and -- do you have any weapon?
    Or do you know how, if you believe she was killed, how she was
    killed?

    SHERIFF SMITH: We don't have a weapon, and we don't
    know. We don't know.

    A REPORTER: What made it important yesterday, as opposed
    to the days or weeks before? Why did you make the decision --

    SHERIFF SMITH: We had received the forensic evidence
    back on the vehicle that we seized earlier. Lab takes a long
    time. There are many, many more things that currently are
    with the lab that we're expecting results. We knew that we
    had probable cause and that we had a strong case to arrest him
    for homicide and kidnapping.

    And public safety was our primary concern. Even though
    we have been surveilling him, surveillance is not perfect. We
    wanted to make sure that this didn't happen again. And public
    safety, again, has been our concern all along on this and to
    make sure that we had a good, viable case.

    A REPORTER: I think this is -- Sheriff, I want you to
    address it now and have that opportunity. If you had him
    under surveillance since March 20th, are you confident in the
    way that you have handled this case in terms of disseminating
    the information and protecting the case against the suspect,
    but with all of the community volunteers and all of the
    searches that have put so much into this? And you obviously
    had a suspect early on, had evidence from the car early on.

    SHERIFF SMITH: I'm absolutely confident in what we've
    done. Our detectives have done an amazing job. The community
    outreach has been wonderful. And we were communicating with
    the community. The community in this has come together to
    search for her.

    What you have seen publicly has been our search: Our
    search and rescue team, our sheriff's office searchers, or
    underwater dive team. What you haven't seen, because it's not
    as visible, is our bigger operation, the investigation,
    surveillance.

    That's not as visible to you, so that's not
    what you saw. But what the volunteers have been doing, what
    our search and rescue team has been doing is searching for
    Sierra, not investigating the case.

    A REPORTER: One of the March incidents --

    SHERIFF SMITH: I'm sorry?

    A REPORTER: The felony arrests for assault, is that one
    of the March incidents?

    SHERIFF SMITH: No. Those were never solved. The three
    assaults in Morgan Hill were not solved.
    Let me mention one other thing that I think is very
    interesting. Since January of 2011, so a little bit over a
    year, in Santa Clara County alone, there are -- let me get the
    number.

    Sorry. I guess I should have had this first. I
    think there's 43 missing juvenile females reported since
    January of 2011 that have never returned home. It's --
    it's -- you wonder if any of those actually were abductions
    also.

    Our detectives have done a great job. Our investigators,
    from the very beginning, our patrol people that initially went
    to the call have done an extraordinary job. And we've put a
    lot of resources into it, but these resources were important.
    This is a missing little girl.

    A REPORTER: What was the felony arrest for?

    SHERIFF SMITH: It was an assault.

    A REPORTER: Was that a sexual assault?

    SHERIFF SMITH: No. And I know you've all met Sierra's
    mother and Sierra's father. And I think Sierra's mother,
    Marlene, would like to talk for a few moments.

    MS. LAMAR: I would like to thank the community
    outreaching to find Sierra, and all their time and efforts
    that have gone into this and their prayers. We continue to
    pray until she's found. Our search still is not going to end.
    You know, as a mother, I still -- I'm hopeful, because
    her -- her body has not been found, and that gives me hope.
    And just what I've heard, you know, as far as certain things
    not being found in the vehicle also gives me hope.
    And I -- again, I am so grateful for the response, for
    law enforcement.

    I have a -- I do have a plea to the perpetrator to
    please, please give the information that you have -- that you
    have to lead us to Sierra, to help end this nightmare. I
    would like you to come forward and say where she is and end
    this nightmare for us as a family.

    I'm not giving up hope, you know. Her body hasn't been
    found. And, you know, so many people have -- you know, record
    breaking numbers showed up at the search center, like,
    thousands of people. And law enforcement, you know, doing it
    simultaneously. I believe there's a reason why she wasn't
    found. So I'm not -- we're not giving up on that.

    MR. LAMAR: Good morning, everyone. I just want to say
    just a couple of words.

    The main thing would be that we want to thank, you know,
    everyone for all of the support we've gotten. So far, we
    still need your support. We need to bring Sierra home. So we
    still need to find her. So we're looking for everyone to help
    us do that. And -- and we're -- we want justice served. So
    that's what we're looking for. Thank you.

    SGT. CARDOZA: Okay. That concludes today's press
    conference. Thank you.


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    Bringing the to the new thread for latecomers.

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    I think that's it, unless you find something else that should be brought over, I'll keep my hands to myself now I promise lol.

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    I posed this question earlier but were all switching to the newest thread. the picture of the license plate is LUCK7.
    Anyone know what that could refer to? (I read he does go by the nickname lucky, but is there something special of the 7 other then 6 other people in CA having the license plate LUCKY)
    On MySpace
    FWIW, I know that in CA, the tags transfer along with the car (where I live, the seller turns his tags in at WVA and the buyer brings the title and inspection certificate to MVA to apply for their own), but do NOT know what happens in the case of vanity tags. Any of you locals have the answer? I guess I could check the CA MVA website, huh?



    Long time lurker, first time posting. I wish it were under different circumstances. I transcribed Sierra's segment on AMW, and posted it on another site, and have been "thanking" posts here recently. I happen to know the answer to @red sky's question, so I thought I'd jump in....

    California calls the vanity place a "Special Interest License Plate" and it follows the person, meaning it can be moved from vehicle to vehicle, held for future use, or released back into circulation for someone else to use....






    Personalized (ELP) and special interest plates.
    "How do I reassign a plate to another vehicle, retain a plate for future use, or release interest in a plate?

    Complete a Special Interest License Plate Application (PDF) indicating that you want to reassign the plates to another vehicle, hold the plates for future use, or release interest in the plates. If retaining the plates for future use, most plate programs require an annual retention fee. The retention fees vary by type of plate and are listed on the second page of the application. Failure to pay this annual fee will result in cancellation of the plate and possible reassignment of the configuration."


    https://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/vr_info.htm#BM2517


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    Quote Originally Posted by mamamia54 View Post
    I think that's it, unless you find something else that should be brought over, I'll keep my hands to myself now I promise lol.
    Thanks for all your work, Mamamia!

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    Mama thank you so much for actualizing the statement about Santa Clara County having 41 (or 43) missing girls. I know that sounded alarming, and even ONE missing person is alarming. I don't really know what the Sheriff was referring to with that statement (maybe if I have some down time at jury duty I will go ask her). Anyway, the missing statistics we are all familiar with by now

    How many children are reported missing each year?

    http://www.missingkids.com/missingki...&PageId=2810#1


    The U.S. Department of Justice reports

    Nearly 800,000 children younger than 18 are missing each year, or an average of 2,185 children reported missing each day.
    More than 200,000 children were were abducted by family members.
    More than 58,000 children were abducted by nonfamily members.
    115 children were the victims of “stereotypical” kidnapping. These crimes involve someone the child does not know or a slight acquaintance who holds the child overnight, transports the child 50 miles or more, kills the child, demands ransom, or intends to keep the child permanently.

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    You know, I'm surprised this guy doesn't have a Facebook.

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    I am so angry that this Man took Sierra

    I can hardly fathom. What he did to this child.
    I pray that she was unconscious.
    Rest in peace, young Sierra.
    Hopefully, you've somehow, stopped this monster from hurting anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamamia54 View Post
    You know, I'm surprised this guy doesn't have a Facebook.
    I'm not surprised... he lives (lived) in an RV park. There is no easy internet access in that type of place. My older daughter has a friend who lives in one by the perc ponds that were searched and focused on so much earlier (Parkway Lakes RV Park http://www.parkwaylakesrvpark.com/) He had NO easy internet access and had some kind of table top antennae for satellite that only worked on a good day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamamia54 View Post
    You know, I'm surprised this guy doesn't have a Facebook.
    I know. And for some reason bothers me, especially since his family and gf do. My first thought was that he's way too busy to have one.

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    I saw the license plate pic but didn't figure it was his at all, just a car he saw and took a photo of.

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    the tag actually says lucky07, it appears to be on red celica,and IMHO he snapped the pic while out & about because it matched his MS screen name...possibly

    eta- ahh Melley you thought that too lol

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