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    Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, 43, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 - #13

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaseClosed
    Can any local of the Kohlo Bridge area please tell me what carnivorous animals roam the area? (What could have contributed to the body being in bad shape, except for decomposition of course).
    In that forest (I am talking D'Aguilar which adjoins the State Forest) I have seen wild dogs (which includes dingoes these days), foxes and rodents. There could also be pigs but I haven't seen then, but that doesn't mean they are not in there.
    Those types of predators are around, but not in the numbers that would do enough damage to affect anything major.
    Biggest affect would be the flies/maggots and other insects really.

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    I don't know how I can quote from the previous thread - but on the last page a few very interesting posts from the same person!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wakeskate View Post
    In that forest (I am talking D'Aguilar which adjoins the State Forest) I have seen wild dogs (which includes dingoes these days), foxes and rodents. There could also be pigs but I haven't seen then, but that doesn't mean they are not in there.
    Those types of predators are around, but not in the numbers that would do enough damage to affect anything major.
    Biggest affect would be the flies/maggots and other insects really.
    I agree..this site is very informative in relation to decomposition and possibly drowning decomposition ITS QUITE GRAPHIC

    http://www.enotes.com/decomposition-.../decomposition

    'Tissues rich in blood vessels (more dependent on oxygen and energy) are the first ones to suffer autolysis, whereas those poorly irrigated or deprived from blood vessels, like the ocular corneas, are not immediately affected by decomposition. Putrefaction (or breakdown by microorganisms) follows autolysis. With the exception of fetuses and newly born babies, the main source of these microorganisms in corpses is the right part of the large intestines. Microorganisms then invade the abdominal cavity, the chest, head, and limbs. The first visible signs of such activity are the greenish abdominal stains, accompanied by the initial odors of rotting flesh. The stains gradually expand to other parts of the body (thorax, head, and limbs) and change from light to dark green, then beginning to blacken. In people who have drowned, the greenish coloration starts on the face, progresses toward the thoracic area, and then to other parts, due to the position that drowned bodies assume in water, which facilitates putrefaction of the upper respiratory pathways first. In newly born infants, putrefaction agents (bacteria, fungi, etc.) invade the body through all cavities, especially through the respiratory pathways. The greenish stains appear in newly born babies first on the face, neck, and chest due to bacterial activity in the upper and lower respiratory pathways, and because their intestines are sterile. This phase of decomposition is known as the chromatic period.'

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    IMO no visible signs of foul play mean just that. I personally believe the statement meant 'given the state of decomposition, at this point, there is no specific 'sign' that might indicate foul play such as bullet wounds,ligature around neck, throat cut' etc. Sorry to be graphic, but there has been a lot of talk about the signs of foul play. Allison's body had possibly been outside for 11 days maybe submerged in water. It would take a medical examiner to examine and determine if there were any signs of foul play after eliminating the decomposition and interference from nature. Also toxicology and other testing would help to determine any other signs of foul play like the poisoning theory doing the rounds.. of course this is all just my opinion...I actually know jack *****

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    Quote Originally Posted by spratsmum View Post
    I don't know how I can quote from the previous thread - but on the last page a few very interesting posts from the same person!!
    a little hard to decipher IMO sounded personal IMO not sure that any of it was on topic either IMO

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    I don't want to re-hash anything and everything, but while we're waiting for the knock on someone's door...

    However.

    The Kenmore roundabout. I'm sure it's the most commonly used route in and out of Brookfield but it's not the only way to Anstead. Rafting Ground Road (the area where the screams were heard) leads onto Moggill Rd, which leads to Mt Crosby Road and Anstead where Allison was found.

    I haven't read anything about the police investigating or mentioning that alternate route - maybe they have specific info about something at the Kenmore roundabout and want more corroboration/witnesses?

    I'd like to think QPS have a CCTV pic of the car/s of interest at the roundabout and that's why the other route isn't under investigation.

    So many unanswered questions!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by minni View Post
    IMO no visible signs of foul play mean just that. I personally believe the statement meant 'given the state of decomposition, at this point, there is no specific 'sign' that might indicate foul play such as bullet wounds,ligature around neck, throat cut' etc. Sorry to be graphic, but there has been a lot of talk about the signs of foul play. Allison's body had possibly been outside for 11 days maybe submerged in water. It would take a medical examiner to examine and determine if there were any signs of foul play after eliminating the decomposition and interference from nature. Also toxicology and other testing would help to determine any other signs of foul play like the poisoning theory doing the rounds.. of course this is all just my opinion...I actually know jack *****
    Agreed !! Most of what would have been obvious immediately after would not have been obvious by that stage. Forensics are amazing these days, I have faith that they'll come up with the goods.


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    Just heard a snippet on ABC radio.

    Just saying they were continuing / progressing with the case, and police wouldn't confirm whether forensic tests were back yet.

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    Off the current topic however, had anyone noticed that Allisons LinkedIn profile says she is a licenced partner of Pathways http://touch.www.linkedin.com/#profi...0598/name:SG87

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    Quote Originally Posted by dork_whisperer View Post
    I don't want to re-hash anything and everything, but while we're waiting for the knock on someone's door...

    However.

    The Kenmore roundabout. I'm sure it's the most commonly used route in and out of Brookfield but it's not the only way to Anstead. Rafting Ground Road (the area where the screams were heard) leads onto Moggill Rd, which leads to Mt Crosby Road and Anstead where Allison was found.

    I haven't read anything about the police investigating or mentioning that alternate route - maybe they have specific info about something at the Kenmore roundabout and want more corroboration/witnesses?

    I'd like to think QPS have a CCTV pic of the car/s of interest at the roundabout and that's why the other route isn't under investigation.

    So many unanswered questions!!
    I don't know the specific area myself, but yes, a few people here have mentioned Rafting Ground Rd and wondered about that. I'd say you're right, for some reason they're pretty sure the Kenmore roundabout was used. The police are pretty cluey, aren't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nads View Post
    Just heard a snippet on ABC radio.

    Just saying they were continuing / progressing with the case, and police wouldn't confirm whether forensic tests were back yet.
    Well... at least it's something, hey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coops View Post
    Off the current topic however, had anyone noticed that Allisons LinkedIn profile says she is a licenced partner of Pathways http://touch.www.linkedin.com/#profi...0598/name:SG87
    yes..I think she was making that her future IMO

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