I can tell you this.....filing an FOIA does not mean you get what you request!! And can tell you that there is a crap load of "stuff" that will never ever ever be released under an FOIA.
And TPD did NOT release all their "reports"...No way on Earth I will ever believe that those 500+ documents were all the docs for this case....no way no how!
ETA...FOIA is a ruse IMO.....it is to satisfy the public by releasing "some" things giving the illusion of being a transparent government....exactly as Madeleine74 said above. I know a crap load of people holding TS/SCI clearances working on classified stuff in various military and fed agencies....and I can promise the majority of stuff they "work" on will NEVER EVER EVER be released to the public no matter how many FOIAs you request! And this goes for local and fed levels....
http://www.foia.gov/faq.html#exemptions <<< more excemptions at link...Not all records can be released under the FOIA. Congress established certain categories of information that are not required to be released in response to a FOIA request because release would be harmful to governmental or private interests. These categories are called "exemptions" from disclosures. Still, even if an exemption applies, agencies may use their discretion to release information when there is no foreseeable harm in doing so and disclosure is not otherwise prohibited by law. There are nine categories of exempt information and each is described below.
Exemption 6: Information that, if disclosed, would invade another individuals personal privacy.
Exemption 7: Information compiled for law enforcement purposes if one of the following harms would occur. Law enforcement information is exempt if it:
7(A). Could reasonably be expected to interfere with enforcement proceedings
7(B). Would deprive a person of a right to a fair trial or an impartial adjudication
7(C). Could reasonably be expected to constitute an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy
7(D). Could reasonably be expected to disclose the identity of a confidential source
7(E). Would disclose techniques and procedures for law enforcement investigations or prosecutions
7(F). Could reasonably be expected to endanger the life or physical safety of any individual
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While i really respect all of the time and efford JohnQ has put into his sleuthing, i felt the need to respectfully disagree with a statement that he made.
Only speaking for myself here, but I feel that "Dad" either was involved or knows more than he is saying. (JMO)
Just because I feel that way (and there is plenty of evidence that leads me in that direction) doesn't mean that he is being "railroaded."
i am reserving judgement over your prime suspect.
As for the RSO that Dad offered up when LE arrived. I am 99 percent positive he is NOT involved here. (doesn't mean he is good person)
I just find it odd that good old Dad allowed Isabel to play down the street KNOWING that he lived there, but when she vanishes he is thrown to the wolves.
all respectfully jmo
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Meh ... I think we research what we have!
No doubt, LE has far more than we know, but I kind of doubt they loaded the doc dump with McD stuff on purpose
i am firmly on the family side of the 'perp fence' but am sleuthing jqp's poi anyway as i think it's warranted.
firstly, are we certain that it was NMc behind pike's house on the electric box?
secondly, his coming from the wash area is definitely suspicious...finding a twin bedset is disturbing for sure. but in the pdf's it's specifically stated that all the bedding was taken from the C's house including hers. i doubt the family would remake the bed and pass it off as that being what she slept in...
thirdly, all i've found is a really bad driving record. might explain his anxiety in facing LE and needing to get out of there lickety split. other than that, he may or may not be a kickboxing marathoner who works as a mechanic.
no MSM links, sorry. i'll see what else i can find. from what we know he certainly seems to be a viable poi no more/less than anyone else so far...
Time, I have posted all of those reports, meaning I know what they say lol.
I am looking for what was stated specifcally as matching descriptions...that is not in the reports as far as I have seen, and I have all reports that mention NMC
They do not say that a man matching NMC's description was sitting on utility box at all. That is what I am saying, and asking where this matching description comment is coming from. I did not see that on the reports.
Here are the reports I posted on the last thread
I have seen the witness on Essex describe the man on the electrcial box a white shirt with "Car World" printed on the front. I saw the officer describe NMc coming out of the park with a "plain white tee shirt."
The only thing that seems to match is the white tee, but the officer said "plain white" and the other description of the guy in the alley 45 minutes earlier had a "car world" shirt on...
As far as descriptions, that is all I have seen
As far as what was taken from NMc home all I see is a white tee shirt.
LE is smarter than many give them credit for. Their job, outside of protecting the public and catching the bad guys, is to discover and preserve evidence that can go to a DA. That's it.
They are not legally obligated to disclose everything they know to the public. Building a case and making sure it's valid and solid for the DA is a major part of their job. They're not going to do things to dilute or ruin a case, if they can help it. They're not going to bow to pressure from people who want to play detective. IMO.
I don't know if there is anything else in the packets or someone was getting the info via tv, radio program. So, for now, we should go with the packets because I can't track down the source absolutely.
I'm thinking LE or some locals know for sure given the description of the man on the box and the tshirt lettering (seems to match NM's profession though, he recently moved to a different body shop, Buck's, but was closer to home before that, Micro)
2. not following lol sorry
3. The bad driving records added up as suspect in regards to RC and SC for some, why not for NMc? (Rhetorical question) BTW did you look in other states that he's associated with? IMO he's not the kickboxer, as that guy looked much younger.
Everyone is a viable POI in this case...IMO
Here's a scenario... he took Isa to that empty house on Essex, the one in the reports with a pool almost empty, with a part that looked recently disturbed?
As soon as he saw police activity he drove back to the house on Essex to get rid of some evidence. The neighbor catches him just after he comes over the fence with evidence bagged by LE in the alleyway. He had sat down on the box for a second. He changed his Car World shirt into the plain white shirt before the officer ran into him in the park, where he had been checking on other evidence.
IDK just trying to make it fit...
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Car world was printed on THE BACK of the shirt, its possible the officer did not see the logo on the rear of the shirt when he spoke to him.
I read all opinions/theories and find them extremely interesting. It is great to think outside of the box especially since we have no named suspect or POI in this case.
While my opinion still remains the same that the parents arent involved in Isa's kidnapping nor I have seen any evidence supporting that either one are ...I am more than willing to read and consider all possibilities.
I do know LE has to have probable cause to get a SW on someone else's home so I find that part very interesting and would like to know the reasons given to the Judge in order to obtain the warrant.
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Sorry, I missed this - who is NMcD??
What evidence is there to suggest that this NMCD gentleman would harm a child or even have any desire to do so? Just because he decided to help the family and look around for her after it was made known she was missing, this makes him suspect?
Maybe I am missing something.
It is the same with those who think Sergio showed signs of being on drugs during his media appearances, I dont think people realize how difficult it is to go through what he had been through, possibly grilled by investigators daily for up to 8 hours straight locked in a room and made to account for every thought and action for weeks prior in addition to little or no sleep due to stress and worry about where his little girl is. It is a living hell to be under the microscope of the police during an investigation and I personally think they held up rather well all things considered.
As for the documents, there is nothing in them that is going to be even remotely close to telling what or who the police are really looking at, everything they released in those documents is mostly meaningless and of no importance to the real investigation and only served to feed the public frenzy and get those who think they werent doing anything off their backs for a while.
It is bread and circuses.
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Interesting theory ... I would certainly entertain it. Or the logo was on the back as JQP said or the shirt was turned inside out (searching here
I think it could also be possible the writing was a logo and was small so officer didn't note it in the summary - sometimes there are longer reports or 'notes' that we would not have.