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    The book is currently ranked at #172 on Amazon, so we probably needn't worry too much about the swaying of potential readers.

    Pre-, Post-, and Foreversumed Guilty.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CarolinaMoon View Post
    I haven't mentioned much on WS, but I did blog the entire case from just after the bond hearing until the end of the trial. I read every document typed every hearing, jury selection, and the trial. I wrote articles on almost every motion out there. LOL! I'm a case encyclopedia. However, after a year, I get fuzzy on the details! Funny, once mentioned here, it all comes flooding back and makes me nauseous.

    I'm glad to have a chance to take part here in the aftermath since I didn't get here much as I would have liked to during the trial.
    Yes, remember you well! Those few of us who came back and are still waiting for justice are just as nauseous as we have to check and recheck those fuzzy details to see just how incredibly inaccurate Jose's book really is. And as another poster said - it's like ripping the bandage off of a big sore. Ugh!

    Nice to see you again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Friday View Post
    Hi, guys--it's nice to see everyone again.

    Before I step into this minefield and add my comment re JB's rants against GA in the book, I want to go on record by stating that (1) no one can feel more anger and contempt than I have for the entire loathesome Anthony family AND Jose Baez; and (2) I do not believe for one moment that GA molested FCA. However.....

    Even so, while reading that book, particularly by the time I neared the end, I'm ashamed to admit that I actually found myself temporarily being suckered into Baez's whole theory that GA had molested FCA and caused her to crumble into a pathetic (yes, "pathetic" ) abused damaged, helpless victim.

    When I finished the book I sat here for probably an hour trying to figure out my change of heart and really worrying about it. However, sanity began to return as soon as I reminded myself of a few things the "victim" had done that weren't included in Baez's book...like forging checks to steal from her poor grandfather's nursing home account.

    Once I did that, my head cleared, but then I needed to figure out how Baez, who isn't even a passably good writer, managed to sway someone like me who is fully aware of the real truth. The answer I arrived at is two-fold:

    (1) Most obvious, but least important, the book went on, and on, and on, telling only one side of the story and whitewashing FCA page after page after page until Baez has the reader temporarily brainwashed and worn out.

    (2) Baez is such an amateur when it comes to writing that he can't disguise his feelings, and as a result his ego and immaturity and pious insincerity are all glaringly exposed. But there was one other thing that came across in that book, loud and clear....HE HATES George Anthony. He despises GA with a kind of virulence that he is not faking. (IMO). When the reader encounters that deep hatred, it's natural to hesitate and wonder what could really be causing it...and it's an easy step to begin wondering if in fact there might actually have been something to that molestation theory. But only temporarily, if the reader is a WS who knows all the truths. If the reader doesn't know all the true facts, I think JB is going to score a whole lot of points.

    Interestingly, he wasn't at all convincing when he related the "clues" he got that GA had molested her...like the "silence" when he mentioned molestation in the Anthonys' living room. That read like self-serving rubbish.

    But, man, that hatred and contempt he has for GA feels awfully real, though there's no way of knowing the true underlying reason for it.

    Anyway that's my take on the thing.

    Wonderful, articulate, well thought out post, Friday. Thank you.

    I agree with you 100%. My DD who watched every moment of the trial and wholeheartedly agrees that the evidence pointed to murder by FCA, is reading the book. She was not here for the 3 years leading up to the trial, so she did not see the document dumps, video depositions, etc.

    So...with just the trial under her belt, and now reading JB's book of dreams (she did read JA's book) she has questions. Questions that I answer with cold hard facts, backed up by video of that period of time way back when, etc. She questioned why LEO "leaked" information when it should have gone to JB first. She questioned other points brought out by JB in his book. TO WHICH ALL OF IT I ANSWERED...."so JB says". There is no controverting viewpoint put forth in his book...so OF COURSE it is skewed from his sick, twisted, lying point of view.

    So I very much agree with you in that anybody who does not have the truth behind them to back up these preposterous fabrications will at first glance believe JB. With that said, I think it is people such as the P12, who will fall for a "made for television" movie script type defense, instead of looking at and weighing the evidence that was abundant in this case.

    HOWEVER I must add that even when I say things like "it could have been a drowning accident with Casey at the helm"....my DD says "but what about the computer searches, the duct tape, the chloroform levels and decomp in the trunk?" So she always, ALWAYS stands fast in her belief that it was premeditated.

    As do I.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KarmaGet'em View Post
    Same last name, different first. Though many rumors went around that they are the same. Or that they are related. RH was allegedly involved in the distribution of the pictures of it. To the point that he got a lawyer.
    They are supposedly the same person, drew
    and rob.
    Now that my babies are grown and on their own, I have my dh of 32 years to care for, as well as Schatzie, our white German Shepherd. She is now the baby of the household.


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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberry View Post
    DH? I know exactly who you mea! He wrote a review? Yes he was the one that has a FB page dedicated to IT and was suspected of linking her videos. Do you have a link to his review?
    I can't link from my phone but it was one if the first 5 star reviews at Amazon.
    Now that my babies are grown and on their own, I have my dh of 32 years to care for, as well as Schatzie, our white German Shepherd. She is now the baby of the household.


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    ooo before i forget..(this book has my brain into mush).. Jose does say in the book that it was casey who did the computer searches.. for cloroform (sp?).. Did he ever state at the trial that she didnt or that CA had ?


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    Here`s a snippet from the jailhouse letters where she talks about the abuse (bbm):

    "But as always, we have to very much in common, both good and the bad. I know how it feels to be physically emotionally and mentally abused. And I also know how it feels to be sexually abused. It's taken a long time for me to forgive and I've been somewhat successful in doing so. The worst part is, when I tried to confide in someone before-Jesse, my Mom, they turned on me. I was to blame for my own brother walking into my room at night and feeling my breasts while I slept. I woke up night after night with my sports bra lifted up over my chest or if I had on a regular bra, it would be unhooked. Even if I was doing karate in my sleep, that wouldn't have happened. I woke up many times to a flashlight on my face, and he would be sitting on my floor, in front of the bed, starring at me.

    This went on for over 3 years before I finally stood up to Lee and told him if he ever came in my room again, I'd kill him. I was 15. It started just before I turned 12. When I told my mom about it two years ago, she made excuses, saying that he was sleep walking. Not only did she say I was lying, but when I explained everything her reaction was literally, like a knife in my chest-"So that's why you're a whore?!" I don't think having sex with 7 people makes me a whore, but I could be wrong. Over the past few months, I've been having really vivid dreams and it's obvious that they are dreams of things that have already happened. I think my Dad used to do the same thing to me but when I was much younger. I can see him in my room exactly the way it was when in elementary school."

    http://www.caseyanthonyletters.com/letter008.php

    I read onwards too, man..

    "Thanks again for my favorite pen ever! My hand doesn't even hurt. Good job Sis! I'm going to stop rambling for now. I'll write you over the weekend. I love you Robyn, and for now, I will call you Lily, Not sure why, but it just came to me "

    Ha, a Lily is busy on Amazon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysteeri View Post
    Here`s a snippet from the jailhouse letters where she talks about the abuse (bbm):

    "But as always, we have to very much in common, both good and the bad. I know how it feels to be physically emotionally and mentally abused. And I also know how it feels to be sexually abused. It's taken a long time for me to forgive and I've been somewhat successful in doing so. The worst part is, when I tried to confide in someone before-Jesse, my Mom, they turned on me. I was to blame for my own brother walking into my room at night and feeling my breasts while I slept. I woke up night after night with my sports bra lifted up over my chest or if I had on a regular bra, it would be unhooked. Even if I was doing karate in my sleep, that wouldn't have happened. I woke up many times to a flashlight on my face, and he would be sitting on my floor, in front of the bed, starring at me.

    This went on for over 3 years before I finally stood up to Lee and told him if he ever came in my room again, I'd kill him. I was 15. It started just before I turned 12. When I told my mom about it two years ago, she made excuses, saying that he was sleep walking. Not only did she say I was lying, but when I explained everything her reaction was literally, like a knife in my chest-"So that's why you're a whore?!" I don't think having sex with 7 people makes me a whore, but I could be wrong. Over the past few months, I've been having really vivid dreams and it's obvious that they are dreams of things that have already happened. I think my Dad used to do the same thing to me but when I was much younger. I can see him in my room exactly the way it was when in elementary school."

    http://www.caseyanthonyletters.com/letter008.php

    I read onwards too, man..

    "Thanks again for my favorite pen ever! My hand doesn't even hurt. Good job Sis! I'm going to stop rambling for now. I'll write you over the weekend. I love you Robyn, and for now, I will call you Lily, Not sure why, but it just came to me "

    Ha, a Lily is busy on Amazon.
    Yes, Lily has been very busy on Amazon. Coincidence???????
    "If we find ourselves with a desire that nothing in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that we were made for another world."
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    Quote Originally Posted by LEFT-COASTER View Post
    ooo before i forget..(this book has my brain into mush).. Jose does say in the book that it was casey who did the computer searches.. for cloroform (sp?).. Did he ever state at the trial that she didnt or that CA had ?
    Really. What does he say she did them for? Oh let me guess, self defense, right?

    Here's a clue, at 22, instead of googling how to break somebody's neck....how about just up and leave. In what alternate universe would somebody google how to make chloroform, neck breaking, shovel...and the newly added "pro suicide"....instead of just walking the hell out of that house? Oh, wait...that would entail having to WORK for a living and support yourself and your child. I forgot who we are talking about here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TotallyObsessed View Post
    Really. What does he say she did them for? Oh let me guess, self defense, right?

    Here's a clue, at 22, instead of googling how to break somebody's neck....how about just up and leave. In what alternate universe would somebody google how to make chloroform, neck breaking, shovel...and the newly added "pro suicide"....instead of just walking the hell out of that house? Oh, wait...that would entail having to WORK for a living and support yourself and your child. I forgot who we are talking about here.

    He states that she did the self defense and weapons searches because she needed to protect herself in that household..
    and that the chloroform one because of the fb post by her friend..(the win her over with chloroform picture).. .. I am gonna try to find the time today to figure out when the chloroform one was seached in compairison to the the fb picture.... I seem to recall that they were at completely differant time frames.. but I do admit my memory is faulty. lol


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    :O

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5m89GmHeRY"]Casey Anthony - Lily the Pink - YouTube[/ame]

    (I`m sorry, I don`t know what to say, and I have a limited vocabulary)


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    With Baez's book bombing and the felon comming off probabtion...i'm wondering if the "implosion' is around the corner. They have to be realizing no one wants to pay for their lies, people are losing interest and moving on..and the ones that are still interested in the case cannot be lied to.

    Surely they see now they will not be able to make $$$$$ off a movie or an interview and spew lies. The only option left to make $$$$ is possibly to come clean and tell the truth.

    I think something may be brewing and we may see some action when they no longer feel they can use each other...should get real interesting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysteeri View Post
    :O

    Casey Anthony - Lily the Pink - YouTube

    (I`m sorry, I don`t know what to say, and I have a limited vocabulary)
    Wow. ..the group is the irish rovers..here are the lyrics.

    http://www.songlyrics.com/irish-rove...e-pink-lyrics/


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    Just for the heck of it this morning I was cruising the CNN.com site to see if I could figure out why Baez's big interview with Piers M. was cancelled. And yes, he replaced Baez with Katy and Tom stuff.

    Then I flipped to their justice page and what did I find about FCA, the case , Jose and his book? Tada!

    ............Absolutely nothing. Nada. Zimmeman and Sandusky are featured in little boxes, and on their list of ten things that people are talking about was #2 Jaycee Dugard, #3 Joran VanderSloot, #6 Kyron Horman,#9 Natalee Holloway and #10 JonBenet Ramsey

    Only when I clicked on the JVS window did I find anything at all about FCA and Baez.....
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    I really do have to work today - but before I go, let's all raise our coffee cups - and sure - you tea drinkers too - and wish A_News_Junkie good luck in NOT being picked for jury duty today!!

    We need her here!!!
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