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    LA vote could spell end for bag of a thousand uses

    http://www.centurylink.net/news/read...popular_viewed

    LOS ANGELES (AP) — Ah, the little plastic grocery bag, we hardly got to know you.

    Although it seems as if the single-use grocery bag, as it's formally known, has been around forever, it wasn't until 1977 that it was introduced to U.S. supermarkets, a move that prompted perhaps the most asked question of the following decade: "Paper or plastic?"..........

    Now, with the city of Los Angeles taking the first step toward joining nearly four dozen other California municipalities in outlawing them, the humble little polyethylene bag may be headed for the trash heap of history.


    More at link....

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    Good riddance!

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    I agree, good riddance! these bags cause so much harm, and it's so easy to bring your own. I wish every city or state would ban them!
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    Bunch of bull if you ask me and you didn't but oh well! I use my bags for lining the small garbage cans in bathroom, bedroom, den, etc. Save money and I'm recycling them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SDkid View Post
    Bunch of bull if you ask me and you didn't but oh well! I use my bags for lining the small garbage cans in bathroom, bedroom, den, etc. Save money and I'm recycling them!

    Me too. I also see people carrying them when walking their dogs. For those who live in neighborhoods where it is law to pick up after their doggy's doo doo.

    They ban them at grocery stores, the same size bags will just sell more as can liners. Just exchanging one for another. Also, all the large grocery chains here have containers to recycle rather than toss these small convienence store plastic grocery bags.
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    so... As my DH asked...
    Are the newspapers running these articles going to stop using plastic bags the papers are delivered in?

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    I reuse them for trash liners too, but I could/would use recycled paper bags for the same thing. jmo

    Next, the dang six pack plastics! Again, what was wrong with the light cardboard variety?

    I think we just overdid a good thing, imo. We need to go back a step or two to find the lasting ideal in many packaging materials. (Like what's with all these infuriating clam shells and single pill bubbles, gosh, a small bottle and a cotton ball were too much? pfft)

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    I use those bags for a ton of things.
    garbage
    gardening stuff
    litter poopy
    all small garbage cans are lined with them
    etc.

    If they ban them then that means we just BUY plastic bags at the store.

    What's the point?

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    Good for scooping poop:

    Plastic bread bags
    Chip bags, rice cake bags, apple bags, potato bags

    For small trash pails - any of those bigger ones, plus department store bags

    Or you can just go back to throwing any "wet" trash in the big plastic bag in the kitchen, and dry only for smaller pails in other rooms.

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    B-b-but if they ban them, when the breeze arises, what will alight in the limbs of their trees, blighting them with the cloying plasticity of their whiteness?


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    Quote Originally Posted by wfgodot View Post
    B-b-but if they ban them, when the breeze arises, what will alight in the limbs of their trees, blighting them with the cloying plasticity of their whiteness?
    The trees will be chopped down to make paper bags, which is why paper bags were once banned - to save the trees. Banning plastic bags accomplishes nothing.

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    I cannot understand what is so hard about bringing your own bags, so we don't have to use plastic OR paper?

    Can someone explain? What am I missing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardenlady View Post
    I cannot understand what is so hard about bringing your own bags, so we don't have to use plastic OR paper?

    Can someone explain? What am I missing?
    Part of the argument is that using the reusable shopping bags can be a source of bacterial growth and ultimately a health hazard. Among other things,if you carry meat and the meat juices drip into the bottom of the bag then they leave behind germs and e coli is one of the most common bacterias found in the reusable bags. Of course they can be washed if cloth or sprayed down with an anti-bacterial if they are the plasticized type- but they can be a carrier of things like stomach flu and other bugs. Many people simply put the bags back in the car and do not wash them or the surfaces they come into contact with. I think norovirus is another one.

    This whole issue is really big here with one of the underlying issues being the number of jobs that will be eliminated if the plastic bags companies lose this business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrackerSam View Post
    The trees will be chopped down to make paper bags, which is why paper bags were once banned - to save the trees. Banning plastic bags accomplishes nothing.
    Understood. But trees are renewable resources, harvested and replanted by the paper cartels, while plastic bags in the limbs of neighborhood trees are forever. (Slight hyperbole.)

    But if anybody in Cali needs plastic sacks should this come to pass, I have about four cupboards-ful of the white WalMart variety, wadded up and ready to go!

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    L.A.'s sweeping ban isn't in the bag yet

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    Banning plastic and paper bags will cost "a tremendous amount" of sack manufacturing jobs held mostly by Latinos in California, and export them to China, Daniels claims. He also said plastic bags can be and are recycled in great numbers, and charging a buck or two for reusable bags is a hardship for many families. He said the Koretz plan to have stores temporarily charge 10 cents for paper bags until an eventual ban is regressive, and he argued that proponents are over-estimating the amount of bag litter, underestimating the amount of recycling, and exaggerating the amount of damage to marine life caused by bags.



    "You think 3 million people are going to clean their reusable bags after every use?" asked Daniels, who claimed that plastic bags account for such a tiny fraction of litter, banning them "will have zero environmental impact."

    He was beginning to sound like a man whose main interest is selling bags.


    Zero environmental impact?
    By some estimates, the amount of plastic bags in California's waste stream is in the thousands of tons, many of them are not biodegradable, and the cost of disposal is in the many millions.
    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/may...agban-20120523

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