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    Michaela (Mickey) Shunick
    Missing from Lafayette LA -- 19 May 2012

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    • [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173725"]Mickey Shunick, 21, Lafayette; 19 May 2012 * Timeline & Media Links ONLY * [/ame]


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    Quote Originally Posted by shann76 View Post
    I think ya'll are getting somewhere by suggesting this person has a camp. If their purpose was to abduct her for likely sexual purposes, and NOT intending to kill her, taking her to an isolated camp would be perfect. No neighbours to see or hear anything or prying eyes, and as someone mentioned a lot of camps are not lived in, they are used only on weekends or vacations for example.
    She could be restrained in someones camp, and the suspect feels comfortable enough to leave her there so he can return to "the city", work, family etc....
    I don't know, I'm grasping here.
    Didn't see your post before I posted basically the same thought. Glad I'm not the only one thinking that scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mamamia54 View Post
    That's about the only way it could happen because he wouldn't have left her, not knowing that she wouldn't wake up and tell, and we know that he didn't just leave her on the roadway. And honestly, why wouldn't he if this was just a hit and run? Why not just leave her where she fell?
    I have asked myself that a million times. If it was an accidental hit- why not leave her and run? (even more importantly- why not call for help!!!!) If the perp had warrants, susp. license, was drunk/high, and all the other things- I guess I can see why they ran.. But I just can't understand the taking her and the bike and dumping them into the basin. That seems so... Irrational to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JurysOut View Post
    I stopped reading that page. In addition to the above, there seems to be a continuously accelerating slap-fest between perfect strangers not connected in any way. It's bizarre, like screaming at a random stranger in traffic "I HATE YOUR SHIRT, B*!╫!"

    I don't get it.
    And don't forget the scores of people who interrupt threads to ask things like, "Have the police thought to check her phone records?" or "Which state is Lafayette located in?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by crzimmer View Post
    I wonder how difficult it would be to cut up a Schwinn? This is a sturdy bike with a heavy frame. Could be a hard job.

    If he has an outisde workshop, would he dare to use it? If there are neighbors nearby?

    Power tools might be out, too. Too much noise.

    So how difficult would it be to cut up a bike like this with an ordinary hacksaw insde you living room?
    Sure would leave a lot of evidence. Can you imagine cleaning up all those metal splinters?
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    We know Mickey was not feeling well the night she disappeared. Not sure if she was getting sick, still experiencing some hangover effects from the previous night (which I have always doubted), or just tired from being out late a couple nights in a row. Whatever the reason, this could have effected her actions and reactions while biking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GulfCoastKAT View Post
    I have asked myself that a million times. If it was an accidental hit- why not leave her and run? (even more importantly- why not call for help!!!!) If the perp had warrants, susp. license, was drunk/high, and all the other things- I guess I can see why they ran.. But I just can't understand the taking her and the bike and dumping them into the basin. That seems so... Irrational to me.
    This thought is what has discounted my accidental hit and grab belief. But I just keep going back to it, I can really see it happening.

    If you're not a cyclist, you don't know anything about bikes. It wouldn't matter if Mickey was on a Schwinn Madison or a bike from the '70s she got for $5 at Goodwill.

    Not a lot of people cycle in Lafayette as a means of transportation. It's not very bike/walker friendly (consistently ranked horribly in both).

    Let's say an accident did happen, and it was the "perfect accident." She fell down, hit her head, and died. The driver is there freaking out. He has a lot to lose. It's a girl on a bike. In the middle of the night. No one saw, and maybe no one will miss her?

    If that was his thought, boy was he wrong.

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    Just a kinda random question, but do people tend to leave their keys in their boats (at their own docks in the water) down around certain local areas down there?
    I have personally spent a lot of time at a lake, no where near that area, where if I ever needed to "borrow" a boat in an emergency, I could. It just got me thinking.
    Last edited by andalso; 06-01-2012 at 02:48 PM. Reason: copied for me from end of last thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by GulfCoastKAT View Post
    I have asked myself that a million times. If it was an accidental hit- why not leave her and run? (even more importantly- why not call for help!!!!) If the perp had warrants, susp. license, was drunk/high, and all the other things- I guess I can see why they ran.. But I just can't understand the taking her and the bike and dumping them into the basin. That seems so... Irrational to me.
    But, if drunk, it may seem rational. The irrational part is, after he comes down off whatever the hello he was on, him sitting back and allowing all these searches to go on and on, without saying anything.........hold that thought, I think people need to be made aware, that if they know someone with a Z 71, and he seems to be drinking more, unwilling to talk about what happened to Mickey, they need to call LE. This person HAS to be going through this in his head constantly. Sorry, I was writing there and it just changed my thought process lol, dead center.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shefner View Post
    We know Mickey was not feeling well the night she disappeared. Not sure if she was getting sick, still experiencing some hangover effects from the previous night (which I have always doubted), or just tired from being out late a couple nights in a row. Whatever the reason, this could have effected her actions and reactions while biking.
    I'm not sure about that. Tired, yes. I don't know of anyone who's feeling under the weather deliberately eating Taco Bell food. And driving to get it, no less. I don't buy the not feeling well angle.
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    Mickey was taken on an early Saturday morning, a time when many camp sites become busy with weekenders. Unless someone had a fairly secluded camp, I would think that scenario (taken to a camp along the river) might not be as likely as others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamamia54 View Post
    My vote -

    Mickey was hit on her bike by intention (an abduction)
    I agree. Maybe by someone who was watching & waiting specifically for her or maybe MS was in the wrong place/wrong time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andalso View Post
    Just a kinda random question, but do people tend to leave their keys in their boats (at their own docks in the water) down around certain local areas down there?
    I have personally spent a lot of time at a lake, no where near that area, where if I ever needed to "borrow" a boat in an emergency, I could. It just got me thinking.
    Interesting thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shefner View Post
    Mickey was taken on an early Saturday morning, a time when many camp sites become busy with weekenders. Unless someone had a fairly secluded camp, I would think that scenario (taken to a camp along the river) might not be as likely as others.
    If she was unconscious at 3:00 AM, some people may not have noticed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fleurdenola View Post
    This thought is what has discounted my accidental hit and grab belief. But I just keep going back to it, I can really see it happening.

    If you're not a cyclist, you don't know anything about bikes. It wouldn't matter if Mickey was on a Schwinn Madison or a bike from the '70s she got for $5 at Goodwill.

    Not a lot of people cycle in Lafayette as a means of transportation. It's not very bike/walker friendly (consistently ranked horribly in both).

    Let's say an accident did happen, and it was the "perfect accident." She fell down, hit her head, and died. The driver is there freaking out. He has a lot to lose. It's a girl on a bike. In the middle of the night. No one saw, and maybe no one will miss her?

    If that was his thought, boy was he wrong.
    But this is so contrary to what we have been told by natives. We have been told that there is a huge cycling community and they are very close. Bikers are seen regularly traveling to and from school, work, clubs and home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crzimmer View Post
    I wonder how difficult it would be to cut up a Schwinn? This is a sturdy bike with a heavy frame. Could be a hard job.

    If he has an outisde workshop, would he dare to use it? If there are neighbors nearby?

    Power tools might be out, too. Too much noise.

    So how difficult would it be to cut up a bike like this with an ordinary hacksaw insde you living room?


    As far as we know, Mickey's bike was not cut up. ?

    That said, I would think someone would use a cutting torch rather than a hacksaw, especially if they were in a hurry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shefner View Post
    Mickey was taken on an early Saturday morning, a time when many camp sites become busy with weekenders. Unless someone had a fairly secluded camp, I would think that scenario (taken to a camp along the river) might not be as likely as others.
    She could have easily been driven there in the middle of the night, and no one would have seen otherwise

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    (Bringing over my question from end of last thread).

    Just a kinda random question, but do people tend to leave their keys in their boats (at their own docks in the water) down around certain local areas down there?
    I have personally spent a lot of time at a lake, no where near that area, where if I ever needed to "borrow" a boat in an emergency, I could. It just got me thinking.

    (eta. sorry about double post. tried to delete one above. pardon the interruption)
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    I had a horrible day today trying to get lab work and at the doctor anyway. While sitting forever I was thinking about this case. One thing really hit me. When I was in my teens and early 20's. I would either ride my bike or be walking and so many times a car would pass me with a guy and cat call out, or just stare at me. A few times (gosh more then 10 times at least) a car would pass me, stare, go around the block and come back to get another look.

    I was thinking this is what happened, and instead the 2nd time of keep driving, he stopped, or bumped her, she fell off, and he might have acted like "Oh My Gosh, I'm so sorry, let me take you to the hospital" BOOM, she is now in his control.

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    I have asked myself that a million times. If it was an accidental hit- why not leave her and run? (even more importantly- why not call for help!!!!) If the perp had warrants, susp. license, was drunk/high, and all the other things- I guess I can see why they ran.. But I just can't understand the taking her and the bike and dumping them into the basin. That seems so... Irrational to me.

    But, if drunk, it may seem rational. The irrational part is, after he comes down off whatever the hello he was on, him sitting back and allowing all these searches to go on and on, without saying anything.........hold that thought, I think people need to be made aware, that if they know someone with a Z 71, and he seems to be drinking more, unwilling to talk about what happened to Mickey, they need to call LE. This person HAS to be going through this in his head constantly. Sorry, I was writing there and it just changed my thought process lol, dead center.

    Mamamia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cazzie View Post


    As far as we know, Mickey's bike was not cut up. ?

    That said, I would think someone would use a cutting torch rather than a hacksaw, especially if they were in a hurry.
    The bike was intact with damage to rear tire rim. The question is why did the perp choose to not break or cut up the bike before disposal. It is a good question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crzimmer View Post
    The bike was intact with damage to rear tire rim. The question is why did the perp choose to not break or cut up the bike before disposal. It is a good question.
    Not enough time or energy, and he also had a body to dispose of. JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by shefner View Post
    But this is so contrary to what we have been told by natives. We have been told that there is a huge cycling community and they are very close. Bikers are seen regularly traveling to and from school, work, clubs and home.
    There's a big difference between a "huge cycling community" in the thoughts of those being involved in it, and most the city being bike friendly/most people use bikes as transportation. The cycling community is large (a couple thousand?) and close because it's the same people at everything revolving around cycling. The same people you pass on bikes everyday. As someone in the community, you share interests with the others in it. So of course you're close. You compare the # people in that cycling community to the population at large, however? Hardly even a blip.

    There are very few bike lanes/bike paths. Someone previously mentioned the ridiculous inconsistency of the bike lane on Johnston St. Ambassador and Kaliste Saloom and Pinhook have none. Congress may or may not (I don't remember?). Those are all of the main roads in the city. The Blackham Colliseum bike path was a nice addition, but other than near the college, it doesn't really get you anywhere. I remember distinctly having a conversation with friends who still live there about how nice it was, too bad you have to drive to it to use it safely because it doesn't connect to hardly anything!

    Lafayette is a driving city when it comes to transportation. Someone not in the cycling community would likely not be aware of it's closeness, or that it even existed.

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    There are some known people who frequently use / have access to pilot channel / work canal etc.

    Has LE spoken to any of these people and checked out their vehicles? Even if they aren't involved, they might be able to provide names of acquaintances and eventually someone with a vehicle matching the VOI might turn up.

    The reason I mention this is that it's more likely that someone who is very familiar with that area would return there,
    as opposed to someone who has never been there before.

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    I guess I can see where someone would think "it's the middle of the night... No one saw me, no one would miss this girl..." for the cover up following an accident but yeah... They underestimated big time when it comes to Mickey Shunick's family, if that was the case. They did an excellent job getting word out.

    And to add to the camp theory... There are also houseboats out there.

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