Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, 43, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 - #17

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Please remember the following when discussing the Allison Baden-Clay case:
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Currently, we are considering Allison's husband to be a suspected person of interest in this case. There is a possible second party involved per MSM and it is okay to discuss that aspect, but please refrain from accusing anyone of murder at this juncture. Speculating is one thing, accusing is another.


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REMEMBER: No cutting and pasting of comments from other social or media websites. You may paraphrase and provide a link.

The only social media sites allowed are those belonging to the victim, Gerard Baden-Clay and any named (by law enforcement) POI or Suspect, or site created and devoted to the murder of Allison.


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Here are just some of the problems that occur over and over:

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Have you read the two previous posts? If not, read them now.
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Hmmm..."Now you're just somebody that I used to know"
 
My last post on previous thread....



I'd also like to tell you a story ( I can see some of you rolling your eyes, saying here we go again...lol)

When I was about 5 years old, a married man in the street divorced his wife and was seeing another woman. The ex wife was somewhat unhinged and she had him followed by a pair of private detectives. The private detectives got the wrong house and for a week they would slowly drive past our house, using about 3-4 different cars. Slowing down as they passed our driveway, sometimes sitting up the street in their car just watching. It WAS NOT my parents or neighbors that picked up the odd behavior, it was the kids. I remember riding my bike and seeing them drive around the corner and being totally overcome with fear when I realized it was us they were watching.

To this day I STILL get flashbacks. You want to condone behavior that might terrify a child? Go ahead, but please don't say you care, then make jokes about Nancy Drew. This is real Life and there are children's well being at stake.
 
In breaking news. I can confirm that GBC is currently not drinking margaritas on the deck of the Noosa Surf Club.
 
True said:
My last post on previous thread....
... You want to condone behavior that might terrify a child? Go ahead, but please don't say you care, then make jokes about Nancy Drew. This is real Life and there are children's well being at stake.
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I would like to caution those sleuthers who encourage/influence other sleuthers to actively go out in real life and get information for the thread etc. IMO it is negligent and unethical as it could put others in harms way in a real murder investigation. Just my thoughts.
 
I now have that song in my head AGAIN, as if it being played on the radio 50 times a day isn't enough :/
 
Fuskier,
When the children in the street all ran terrified to our parents, the police were called and the police actually apprehended the men, threw them up against their cars and handcuffed them. They got the works for stalking us children. They brought out their credentials and their files from the back seat of the car and the police told them to go away and never come back. It was an awful experience. I had to go with the police to identify them.
 
I have a sneaking suspicion that some recent posts may fall under the WS rule of "no wild speculation."

If those posts & all responses/references to them go away quickly and quietly, it will be best for all of us.

:tyou:
 
Hawkins, he's definitely drinking them at that C21 night though.
 
True said:
I now have that song in my head AGAIN, as if it being played on the radio 50 times a day isn't enough :/
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It was great the first 500 times I heard it - now it's enough to drive anyone to commit murder I would say!!

:singing::singing::singing::singing:
 
Oh well, life used to be interesting a few years ago, looks like political correctness has stymied practically every bit of initiative and resourcefulness that is naturally embedded in the human gnome, that's g-nome, not gnome. Lol
 
Ynotdivein...I have a question.
I'm trying to PM another member and they are new. If this happens can we alert them on the board to check their Pm's? I know when I was new, I didn't notice my PM'S for a while and had 5 waiting by the time I saw the little number next to my name.
 
Meeting in person? - NO! For those who are contemplating this, do not go ahead with it. You have to understand that we all are a "different persona" on internet forums compared to our own real selves. We are abiding by certain rules, which moderate our own personalities and behaviours as to how we express and present ourselves in here. Real people are a complex mixture of personalities, experiences, attitudes, dramas and motivations. We are hiding behind assumed tag-names. We are teaching our children not to meet strangers we encounter on the internet, but some are now considering this?

Just some food for thought!
 
Does anyone know whose car Gerard had crashed 2 days after Allison's disappearance?
 
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