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Muddy water in the street; Muddy water 'round my feet... as sung by the inimitable Bessie Smith, "Muddy Water (A Mississippi Moan)"
So, that's already three people found out there, and possibly one more, Mickey. I think it's high time Lafayette people start to sit on the steps of City Hall and demand cameras out there at Whiskey Bridge. Had they already had them, we might know who took Mickey. Or at least have some better idea who did it.In 2002, the body of Pam Kinnamore was found at that exit. Less than a year later, the body of Carrie Lynn Yoder was also discovered at Whiskey Bay. Police said both women were the victims of Derrick Todd Lee, the Baton Rouge serial killer who has since been convicted and now sits on death row at the Louisiana State Penitentiary.
Blanchard said he also could recall an unrelated murder that took place in the same area several years ago, and a case where the body of a child who had been abducted from Texas was left there.
That same exit became connected with another apparent crime last Sunday, when two fishermen found Shunick's bicycle there.
I have a full work week ahead, so I'd better knock it off.
The continuing late night/early morning 'where is Mickey?!' conversation is tough to abandon, though.
I think wild conjecturing is part of puzzle solving and whipping up a theory to subsequently knock it down is a necessary part of the process.
Nothing is sacred, no one gets a pass.
That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence ~ Hitchens
One last thing, before I return to my camera-map making and intensive endeavor, the way I'm doing it.... the reason I'm waiting to post is that I want to call the police and the PI with my findings before I finalize it, so as not to throw another red herring into the case.
Now I'm back to work. I hope y'all can reach some sort of agreement on which truck is which. One thing that would greatly help me is if anyone could, in an organized manner, repost the time-stamp (or lack thereof) and location of each picture released by LE:
Mickey @ Circle K
Truck caught at same spot at Circle K, going in Mickey's direction.
Both pics (I think there are two but maybe there is one and someone enlarged it and confused me) of the truck(s) seen from the back.
Pic of the Olds
Pic of blurry car (which I'm convinced is the Olds as well)
This would greatly help me with my map, as I'm having trouble wading through threads trying to find the links.....
I'll check back in a bit. I really appreciate y'all's help. I think it will advance the discussion to have a unified camera/vehicle map so everyone is discussing the same set of facts....
Anyway, it would be nice. But then again there is that entire Atchafalaya basin right there so I'd imagine bodies would just be dumped somewhere else. Who knows.
If it was me I certainly would not let it be known that this had been done as it would alert the people responsible. They would find an alternate place.
I found it interesting that LE was so adament with respect to the fact the bike had not been tossed off the bridge as well as quite specific with respect to the approximate time. This leads me to believe that they have some very specific information in regards to that location. How did they come by this information?
chicken fried said: To the mods, I am a bit unclear about the "verified poster" thing. If I am observing things like camera positions with my own eyes, and talking with people like security guards DIRECTLY MYSELF, adn reporting on these things, am I required to become a "verified poster?"
Hey, chicken fried --- it is possible that the mod intended to say "verified LOCAL/INSIDER poster."
To get verified, you just contact Tricia and she will authenticate your standing as a local. Don't worry, you are in good company. So far, out of alllllll of the LAs posting, only one person is listed as a verified local/insider, meaning, nobody else has contacted Tricia to get verified.
Hope this helps.
Someone may have answered this before and I missed it, but was the abandoned hospital searched with dogs?
BURRIS: There`s none that we know about at this time, Nancy. The exit is -- when you exit the interstate, it basically puts you right there in the location where the bike was found.
We don`t believe the bike was thrown from the bridge because there is no shoulder on the bridge for a vehicle to pull over. They would actually have to stop in the middle of a heavily traveled interstate to do that.
BURRIS: Well, let me just say that that particular area is -- it`s a remote area. Really, the only reason why people would exit there would be to go fishing or go to their camps. It`s not a very major exit. It`s basically a hunting area. So therefore, we have not found any video in the area of that exit.
(2) Truck caught at same spot at Circle K, going in Mickey's direction. There is not a time stamp on this photo. Based on the background of what's going on at Circle K, I think that is closely after the time Mickey traveled on St. Landry (1:48 am)She then traveled on St. John Street and crossed over University Avenue, continuing west on St. Landry Street where she was captured on video at approximately 1:48 am. from here: http://www.lafayettela.gov/Police/Pr...asp?PR_Id=4677
(3) Both pics (I think there are two but maybe there is one and someone enlarged it and confused me) of the truck(s) seen from the back. This picture can be seen here: http://www.lafayettela.gov/upload/im...icture%201.jpg The time stamp on this photo is 1:51:27 am.
(4 and 5) Pic of the Olds and Pic of blurry car (which I'm convinced is the Olds as well) I'm handling these together because the pic of the blurry car, which can be found here: http://www.lafayettela.gov/upload/im...icture%203.jpg is time stamped at 1:49:38 am. The Olds then took a right on St. Landry and that picture can be seen here: http://www.lafayettela.gov/upload/im...icture%204.jpg. There is no time stamp on the picture of the Olds on St. Landry.
Hope that helps
Chicken this is the closest that I'm able to come up with times. The third picture of either the same white truck or different going in the opposite direction on Landry has to be around the same timeframe because the same guy is still at the pumps.
Also, someone posted last night these times, which ARE shown as the JPG numbers, times, so that's all we can go on.
1:48 Mickey crosses intersection and is snapped in front of Circle K
1:49 Z-71 passes in front of funeral home. Might have passed Mickey as she rode by the side of LCG bldg.
1:51 Z-71 is sitting in turning lane at University.
Hooptie on Landry, no time stamp
RE: Human trafficking
This topic was discussed in a prior thread of whether Mickey could be a victim of human trafficking. Traffickers use many ploys to lure victims. This topic was brought up in the Holly Bobo(TN) case. In 2010 there were human trafficking investigations in 85% of TN counties & several arrests made from states as far away as IL & Maryland. Victims of HT come from all walks of life, abducted by various methods, & could be my child or yours.
Texas 12-year-old lured into sex trade through Facebook invite
Z-71 in left turning lane facing University
Z-71 driving away from University
Somebody said something to make me believe the 1:51 applied to the truck driving away. If so, I am not sure of the time for truck in turning lane.
Just to prevent more mess, and so I can get back to work, i will be submitting my info to be verified.
I see your point.... I also saw that last night you kept asking about the info about the "two bikers," after the mods specifically posted that people discussing that particular rumor would be given time out.
You forget that the person about the bikes refused to source the info beyond, "a person"
And was a first-time poster. I specifically IDed my source as a security guard.
But I agree, it's a gray area, so to make everyone happy, allow me to post my info, AND to allow the mods to better stop rumors, I'll get verified.
Last edited by Salem; 06-03-2012 at 05:39 PM. Reason: Please DO NOT discuss other posters in the threads.
They as well are understanding (inject many great adjectives here), and can tell when people are truly trying to help versus bait.
We as individuals as well can determine how much weight is put into the information posted.
Just remember that the mods are here to help and I know they are patient
ETA Not that I would know any of this from personal experience cough cough