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    AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #23

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    Quote Originally Posted by bessie View Post
    TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) - Tucson police are searching for a 6-year-old girl who went missing from her home on the city's east side.

    Isabel Mercedes Celis was last seen late Friday and discovered to be missing at about 8 a.m. Saturday.

    Sgt. Maria Hawke says police are searching the area around East Broadway Boulevard and Craycroft Road using street patrols, canines, detectives and a helicopter.

    She's described as just under 4-feet-tall and weighing 44 pounds, with brown hair and hazel eyes.
    Snipped: http://www.kswt.com/story/17650000/t...-year-old-girl

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    Full news coverage: http://www.kvoa.com/full-coverage/finding-isabel/

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    http://azstarnet.com/

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    New website for Isabel Celis: http://bringisahome.com/
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    AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #23

    Please continue here. AND please remember to link all photos and articles. It is a copyright violation if you do not and the responsibility is yours.

    Thanks,

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    Poop...just lost my really cool response in the transition. LOL.

    Essentially stated that Gitana's photos were glorious. :-) And that it is all a matter of frame of reference. Recounted a likely boring story about my daughters' First Holy Communion experience in a very ethnically mixed school in NYC. Blah.

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    We need some sort of new information to keep this case in the spot light
    JUSTICE IS COMING HALEIGH AND CAYLEE

    YOU GOT TO LOVE JUDGE STRICKLAND
    At it's core, the defense counsel's motion accuses the undersigned of being a "self aggrandizing media hound". Indeed. The irony is rich.

    Motion granted.

    Stan Strickland
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    Quote Originally Posted by pieper4 View Post
    Poop...just lost my really cool response in the transition. LOL.

    Essentially stated that Gitana's photos were glorious. :-) And that it is all a matter of frame of reference. Recounted a likely boring story about my daughters' First Holy Communion experience in a very ethnically mixed school in NYC. Blah.
    Agreed Gitana's pix were adorable. I haven't seen pix of Isabel in make up, from another member's comments here about the make up, I was asking what she meant by it. As for the Madeleine McCann photos, there are several, the ice cream photo and there is a photo of her lying down with her arm back and elbow up, a very odd position for a little girl, very pose-y. I think that there is a swimming pool photo of her also in make up. A photo shoot and quite odd. This has no bearing on Isabel's photos.

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    thanks for that link!

    It listed RC's brother's Blackberry phone but not RC's or SC's. Is that odd that their cells (assuming they have one) were not taken into evidence?...or the son's (if he has one)? - Maybe I missed it or it isn't published for the public.

    Photos of RC's brother's texts, call logs and contacts were taken...is that because they needed a warrant to collect the phone for evidence? TIA

    Also it sounds like much of Tucson's road side litter was cleaned up with that list of items. What a big job to go thru each piece!

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    Quote Originally Posted by buggsmom View Post
    thanks for that link!

    It listed RC's brother's Blackberry phone but not RC's or SC's. Is that odd that their cells (assuming they have one) were not taken into evidence?...or the son's (if he has one)? - Maybe I missed it or it isn't published for the public.

    Photos of RC's brother's texts, call logs and contacts were taken...is that because they needed a warrant to collect the phone for evidence? TIA

    Also it sounds like much of Tucson's road side litter was cleaned up with that list of items. What a big job to go thru each piece!
    definitely. But some of those places and items were in redacted portions of released docs too so I thought it was interesting to put the info in together.

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    had Isa her own cell phone?

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    Oddities (IMO):

    SC's initial explanation of events…

    Mentioned everyone takes a shower…. shower curtain taken from car

    Boys were playing video games and told to hold the noise down… gaming chair was processed (redacted info in doc)

    IIRC At some point while SC was on the couch Isa walked by and was asked if she was hungry (she replied she was tired)… kitchen was cleaned by family member (also felt like that was a way to confirm that he was on the couch even though Isa isn't here now to say so)

    Recalling that the window was closed when she went to bed…then he went to wake her up and found her bed empty but didn't notice that her window was wide open and there was no screen. Her brother discovered that one. Wouldn't the window being open without a screen be noticeable right away?…the window is rather large (IMO)

    Not sure of the time reference with this, during the video interview, the neighbor that heard the dogs said she could see Isa's bedroom window and that the curtain was pushed aside but couldn't see into the room… that to me would make it even easier to notice an open window…and would an abductor/perp think to close the curtain while carrying a child thru the window?

    SC - Navy blue shorts and a pink tank top
    RC - Old navy shirt with flag on it and dark blue shorts
    Do we know if any of Isa's clothes were taken from the home?

    If these have been discussed ad nauseam I apologize, not trying to rehash old conversations, maybe sparking some new thoughts. Going back and re-reading articles and docs, I just found some things ironic and odd… there are too many puzzle pieces missing!!!!
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    from the last thread lisab asked for the exact wording of 'no travel'...this is all i could find, there was never a hyphen...

    "Hawke said he has not been placed under any restrictions by police."
    http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/1...h-celis-family

    "Hawke said today that the father is under no travel restrictions"
    http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crim...a4bcf887a.html

    "Hawke said he has not been placed under any restrictions by police."
    http://www.wistv.com/story/18504085/...h-celis-family

    "Hawke said Thursday that the father is under no travel restrictions"
    http://www.tucsoncentral.com/tucson-...ona-daily-star

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    One could make a whole twin sized bed:

    <<• A bedsheet, bed skirt and a plastic bag that appears to have contained clothing were found in a wash near Downing Lane and Wilshire Drive.

    • A pale pink, twin-size blanket found hanging in Pantano Wash.>>

    and maybe decorate a bathroom:
    <<• A small rug with dried fluid on it and photographs of shoe prints near the rug, found near Oak and 17th Streets.>>

    I wonder what color that rug is and if it matched the green vinyl shower curtain- and how much do you want to bet - there is a match on the " wolverine boot prints on the rug and the electrical boxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buggsmom View Post
    Oddities (IMO):

    SC's initial explanation of events…

    Mentioned everyone takes a shower…. shower curtain taken from car

    Boys were playing video games and told to hold the noise down… gaming chair was processed (redacted info in doc)

    IIRC At some point while SC was on the couch Isa walked by and was asked if she was hungry (she replied she was tired)… kitchen was cleaned by family member (also felt like that was a way to confirm that he was on the couch even though Isa isn't here now to say so)

    Recalling that the window was closed when she went to bed…then he went to wake her up and found her bed empty but didn't notice that her window was wide open and there was no screen. Her brother discovered that one. Wouldn't the window being open without a screen be noticeable right away?…the window is rather large (IMO)

    Not sure of the time reference with this, during the video interview, the neighbor that heard the dogs said she could see Isa's bedroom window and that the curtain was pushed aside but couldn't see into the room… that to me would make it even easier to notice an open window…and would an abductor/perp think to close the curtain while carrying a child thru the window?

    SC - Navy blue shorts and a pink tank top
    RC - Old navy shirt with flag on it and dark blue shorts
    Do we know if any of Isa's clothes were taken from the home?

    If these have been discussed ad nauseam I apologize, not trying to rehash old conversations, maybe sparking some new thoughts. Going back and re-reading articles and docs, I just found some things ironic and odd… there are too many puzzle pieces missing!!!!
    ALL MOO
    But in another account of that night, SC said that he last saw Isabel when he went into he room, kissed her goodnight,and dimmed the lights in her room...

    JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by liz b. View Post
    But in another account of that night, SC said that he last saw Isabel when he went into he room, kissed her goodnight,and dimmed the lights in her room...

    JMO
    I didn't find that to be odd...IMO

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    Love those photos of little Gitana Thanks for sharing.

    Re: Make-up. Isa photos in which she's wearing make-up look theatrical to me. I wonder if she was ever an extra or in the children's chorus with the Tucson opera? Isabel probably saw her dad donning make-up and/or wigs for his performances and was interested in the process.

    Not sure whether or not it's related, but I have wondered what Becky meant in one of the parents' interviews when she said that (paraphrasing) "(they) wondered if they had done something to put Isabel in harm's way." Does anyone else recall the comments, and if so, what are your thoughts about it?

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