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    Why hasn't there been an arrest?

    If Deborah is guilty, why hasn't she been arrested?

    Do you believe LE has a lack of evidence? Do you think they need to find Lisa before they can move forward? How big of a role is the benefactor and their team playing in Deborah being a free woman? How much power do they really have---or are we mistaking TV air time for power/influence?

    (BTW, if you think an intruder is responsible, feel free to comment too.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by eileenhawkeye View Post
    If Deborah is guilty, why hasn't she been arrested?

    Do you believe LE has a lack of evidence? Do you think they need to find Lisa before they can move forward? How big of a role is the benefactor and their team playing in Deborah being a free woman? How much power do they really have---or are we mistaking TV air time for power/influence?

    (BTW, if you think an intruder is responsible, feel free to comment too.)
    I think there is a lack of evidence. I do not think Baby Lisa needs to be found (I'm assuming you mean her body) before an arrest can be made. I absolutely do not believe the benefactor has anything to do with anything.


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    I think they are making sure there won't be another Casey Anthony fiasco.


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    I'm assuming they don't have any evidence or she would've been arrested by now (and, yes, I believe she is responsible for the disappearance of her daughter).


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    Quote Originally Posted by KsStormy View Post
    I think they are making sure there won't be another Casey Anthony fiasco.

    That was my "first thought" as well ...

    as to why there have been no arrests :

    1. There is "no shortage" of SODDI's in and around the neighborhood that Deb and Jeremy's defense attorneyS would try to "pin this on" ... and that might raise "doubt" in the minds of the jury ...

    2. No body : while I completely understand that the DA can bring forth a case withOUT a body, there is no "crime scene" that we KNOW OF ... we know there is evidence that the dog "hit" in DB's bedroom, but nothing that we know of regarding any blood evidence, etc. that would clearly indicate a "crime scene" ...

    3. The "3 missing cell phones" : there is a reason LE wanted those phones ... they searched "high and low" for those 3 phones ... and they have NEVER turned up ...

    4. JMO, but I believe LE and the DA know who "disappeared" Baby Lisa ... what they may be uncertain of is WHO helped Deb and WHO ELSE to charge with WHAT ...

    JMO MOO ...

    I sure wish there would be some sort of break in the case for Baby Lisa !
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    Quote Originally Posted by dog.gone.cute View Post
    That was my "first thought" as well ...

    as to why there have been no arrests :

    1. There is "no shortage" of SODDI's in and around the neighborhood that Deb and Jeremy's defense attorneyS would try to "pin this on" ... and that might raise "doubt" in the minds of the jury ...

    2. No body : while I completely understand that the DA can bring forth a case withOUT a body, there is no "crime scene" that we KNOW OF ... we know there is evidence that the dog "hit" in DB's bedroom, but nothing that we know of regarding any blood evidence, etc. that would clearly indicate a "crime scene" ...

    3. The "3 missing cell phones" : there is a reason LE wanted those phones ... they searched "high and low" for those 3 phones ... and they have NEVER turned up ...

    4. JMO, but I believe LE and the DA know who "disappeared" Baby Lisa ... what they may be uncertain of is WHO helped Deb and WHO ELSE to charge with WHAT ...

    JMO MOO ...

    I sure wish there would be some sort of break in the case for Baby Lisa !
    I think your point #1 is a really good point. Finding and eliminating those mystery men would be a very prudent task for LE. It would be a good idea to kill off as much doubt as you can before filing charges. I would love to see the looks on the faces of the whole Bradley/Irwin camp when/if they find out all the mystery men have been accounted for and cleared.

    I said in another thread I would be surprised if any charges were filed prior to a year out. There are two other fairly recent cases in MO with no body recovered and it took over a year to file charges. I am thinking it will be at least that long here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Melon View Post
    I think your point #1 is a really good point. Finding and eliminating those mystery men would be a very prudent task for LE. It would be a good idea to kill off as much doubt as you can before filing charges. I would love to see the looks on the faces of the whole Bradley/Irwin camp when/if they find out all the mystery men have been accounted for and cleared.

    I said in another thread I would be surprised if any charges were filed prior to a year out. There are two other fairly recent cases in MO with no body recovered and it took over a year to file charges. I am thinking it will be at least that long here.

    Yes, the "mystery men" ...

    The defense team would have a "field day" with the number of possibilities if this case were brought to trial :

    1. The "Handyman" Jersey ... who is currently in

    2. Dane G -- isn't he currently in

    3. The Neighbor SB's Hubby, JB ...

    4. "Mystery Man" seen by MT [man on motorcycle]

    5. "Mystery Man" seen by neighbors ...

    6. The "White Blob" seen near the gas station ...

    7. The person who received the "Mysterious Phone Call" from Deb's cell phone the night Lisa went missing, and anyone else who was living at that house ...



    Did I leave anyone out ? If I did, please feel free to add to the list ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melon View Post
    I think your point #1 is a really good point. Finding and eliminating those mystery men would be a very prudent task for LE. It would be a good idea to kill off as much doubt as you can before filing charges. I would love to see the looks on the faces of the whole Bradley/Irwin camp when/if they find out all the mystery men have been accounted for and cleared.

    I said in another thread I would be surprised if any charges were filed prior to a year out. There are two other fairly recent cases in MO with no body recovered and it took over a year to file charges. I am thinking it will be at least that long here.
    BBM

    I thought they had already eliminated these men, and if not, why not. Even though I don't believe anyone but DB/JI/PN did this crime, because there are no footprints, fingerprints, fibers, etc., I still think it would be prudent since the defense will use these men as an excuse at trial.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Jacy View Post
    BBM

    I thought they had already eliminated these men, and if not, why not. Even though I don't believe anyone but DB/JI/PN did this crime, because there are no footprints, fingerprints, fibers, etc., I still think it would be prudent since the defense will use these men as an excuse at trial.

    I thought so, too, 4Jacy !

    JMO ... but I think LE knows that these "mystery men" were nothing but a "smoke screen" created by the real "perp[s]" to throw the "focus" off of themselves ...

    While I do believe LE looked into the possibility of these "mystery men", they knew that these "mystery men" was a "creation" of Bill Stanton & Company ...

    It's a shame LE didn't run BS out of town the minute he showed up ... he's not licensed to "PI" there ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Jacy View Post
    BBM

    I thought they had already eliminated these men, and if not, why not. Even though I don't believe anyone but DB/JI/PN did this crime, because there are no footprints, fingerprints, fibers, etc., I still think it would be prudent since the defense will use these men as an excuse at trial.
    Can someone tell me what BBM means? I truly cannot figure that one out.

    And jumping off your post to explain my position a bit further......
    I would hope they have found and cleared all of the mystery men. Doing so probably added a significant chunk of time to the investigation. Sometimes things that seem like they would be simple to investigate take more time than one would think.

    Some are of the notion that since there has not been an arrest, it's due to lack of evidence or lack of enough evidence. I do not fall into that camp, I think each variable adds more work into to the investigation, which adds time.


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    Every case is different, and while we would like to have seen DB arrested months ago, it hasn't happened yet. As we all can attest to, this case has been very sparse with info from the beginning. It happened a mere 3 months after the travesty of justice for poor little Caylee Anthony. I truly believe that LE and the DA's office are getting all their ducks in a row before making an arrest. If we look back at similar cases, we can ask the same question. Kyron Horman, Ayla Reynolds, Sky Metalwala, Jahessye Shockley, Aliayah Lunsford, Haleigh Cummings, Isabel Celis...and so many others, have proven to us that an arrest is not always in the cards.

    I do believe that LE has a lot of evidence in this case, but I also believe that they are taking it very slow and making sure that when they do make an arrest, that it will mean a conviction for everyone responsible for the disappearance of Lisa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melon View Post
    Can someone tell me what BBM means? I truly cannot figure that one out.

    And jumping off your post to explain my position a bit further......
    I would hope they have found and cleared all of the mystery men. Doing so probably added a significant chunk of time to the investigation. Sometimes things that seem like they would be simple to investigate take more time than one would think.

    Some are of the notion that since there has not been an arrest, it's due to lack of evidence or lack of enough evidence. I do not fall into that camp, I think each variable adds more work into to the investigation, which adds time.
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    This thread should help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melon View Post
    Can someone tell me what BBM means? I truly cannot figure that one out.

    And jumping off your post to explain my position a bit further......
    I would hope they have found and cleared all of the mystery men. Doing so probably added a significant chunk of time to the investigation. Sometimes things that seem like they would be simple to investigate take more time than one would think.

    Some are of the notion that since there has not been an arrest, it's due to lack of evidence or lack of enough evidence. I do not fall into that camp, I think each variable adds more work into to the investigation, which adds time.
    Melon - BBM means "bold by me". For example, bolding a quote when a poster wants to respond to just a certain point in someone elses post.
    Please consider my comments as my opinion. I don't ask that you agree with me and you are free to scroll past my post. Thanks for respecting my opinion as much as I respect yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melon View Post
    Can someone tell me what BBM means? I truly cannot figure that one out.

    Boozin' Baby Momma?

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