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    ARREST!!! Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 -#23

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    Currently, we are considering Allison's husband to be a suspected person of interest in this case. There is a possible second party involved per MSM and it is okay to discuss that aspect, but please refrain from accusing anyone of murder at this juncture. Speculating is one thing, accusing is another.


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    From here forth, all posts directed at telling other posters what they need to do, think, type, etc. will earn a time out. There will no longer be any excuses. The personalizing posts toward one member and the generalization toward other members is over.

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    ARREST!!! Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 - #23

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    Is it usual to release information before a trial? I am wondering if we will not be told anything now, until he is in court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karo View Post
    Is it usual to release information before a trial? I am wondering if we will not be told anything now, until he is in court.
    In my experience it is unusual for any new information to be released by the police who will now start preparing their case. If there are further arrests or charges these may be released, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheldor View Post
    In my experience it is unusual for any new information to be released by the police who will now start preparing their case. If there are further arrests or charges these may be released, however.
    I should clarify -- what I mean is that the police are unlikely to release any further information about what evidence they have against GBC until the trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karo View Post
    Is it usual to release information before a trial? I am wondering if we will not be told anything now, until he is in court.
    I think the media will be told bits here and there as things progress, in particular between now and his June 9 court appearance. After that, who knows.

    Also, with your earlier question about law enforcement posting on forums like this. Police have been known to set all sorts of traps to make someone come forward or reveal details, but I don't think they would be posting on forums. But, you never know!
    *** The above comment is my personal opinion and may be based on known facts or just my imagination ***


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    Quote Originally Posted by sheldor View Post
    I should clarify -- what I mean is that the police are unlikely to release any further information about what evidence they have against GBC until the trial.
    Does this mean along the lines of......They can say, "It is believed that GBC was at Kholo Creek".....But they cannot say how they know this was the case....ie footprint or whatever. ?
    Irrespective of our OPINION....She never deserved to be murdered. She also never deserved to be dumped like rubbish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheldor View Post
    I should clarify -- what I mean is that the police are unlikely to release any further information about what evidence they have against GBC until the trial.
    I was thinking about the Sica trial...there was loads of info reported long before that case got anywhere near the trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheldor View Post
    I should clarify -- what I mean is that the police are unlikely to release any further information about what evidence they have against GBC until the trial.
    They have though released the info about blood found in one of the cars, and this was after he was charged.
    *** The above comment is my personal opinion and may be based on known facts or just my imagination ***

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    I was thinking more along the avenue of where the murder took place, why and who else was involved, also how she died. I am watching for any news about further arrests due to today being the day the arrest of GBC was planned. I thought it was reasonable to suppose someone else is an accessory at the very least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willough View Post
    Does this mean along the lines of......They can say, "It is believed that GBC was at Kholo Creek".....But they cannot say how they know this was the case....ie footprint or whatever. ?
    I don't think there are any hard and fast rules, but in my experience once all of the preliminary procedural stages are met (first appearance, bail application etc) the police tend to shut down in terms of releasing of further information until the trial begins. There may be pre-trial admissibility hearings or a hearing to determine whether an accused is fit to stand trial, which might result in the release of tidbits, but usually the public doesn't find out about the police case until the trial proper.

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