06-16-2012, 09:33 PM #1
Thailand - Noemi, 26, & Audrey Belanger, 20, found dead, Phi Phi, 15 June 2012
Not sure, actually, if this is a crime as Thai LE can't solve other suspicious deaths - they join the lengthening list of apparent poisoning victims on the Thai island. Hmmm.....
Canadian sisters 'found dead and covered in vomit and skin lesions' in Thai hotel room after suspected poisoning (Daily Mail)
Two Canadian sisters have been found dead in their hotel room in Thailand.
Thai police suspect Audrey and Noemi Belanger, aged 20 and 26 from near Quebec, may have been poisoned.
The sisters' bodies were discovered by maids at the Phi Phi Palm Residence Hotel on the popular tourist resort island of Phi Phi on Friday.
Officials said the sisters were covered in vomit, had skin lesions and had been bleeding from the gums, according to the Phuket Gazette. They also said both women's fingernails and toenails were blue.
Lt. Col. Rat Somboon of Krabi Provincial Police guessed the women had been dead for between 12 and 20 hours when their bodies were discovered.
Canadian sisters found dead in Thailand (gananoquereporter.com)
Local Thai media are likening the case to the deaths of three Western tourists who were thought poisoned within the span of a month on the island in 2009. Police and medical authorities have not been able to determine the cause of the three deaths, reports say.
The Phuket Gazette reported that a 48-year-old Norwegian tourist staying at a villa on Phi Phi Island was admitted to hospital in April 2009 with severe diarrhea and died soon after.
About a month later, the same newspaper said a 26-year-old American couple fell ill and one of them died. Both had been “vomiting for some time before going to the hospital,” the paper reported.
Finally, a Norwegian woman who had been staying in the room adjacent to the couple, died in hospital after also falling ill, according to the Gazette.
06-16-2012, 10:09 PM #2
That's horrible. I hadn't read of the other deathsEngland's dancing days are done...
06-17-2012, 03:27 AM #3
Have mercy. Talk about your worse nightmare. It's bad enough getting sick, but in Thailand? Beautiful young women.
My thought was could it be the air condition. I then read Jill's Blog which is here. Her friend Ryan explains the timeline as to when they got sick. Jill was in the aircondition room more than he was.
You're ill yourself and you see your girlfriend deteriorating so fast you have to find a cart and wheel her to the hospital?
06-17-2012, 03:43 AM #4
sounds like cyanide....
Cyanosis (blue tissue condition, nails, lips, and/or skin). Nausea, vomiting."
Could be a host of poisons though!
Cyanide came to mu mind immediately.
06-17-2012, 04:02 AM #5
The 48 year old tourist from Norway is not the only Norwegian who has died of similar cause in Thailand these past years.
In 2009 Julie Michelle Bergheim of Drammen, Norway was found dead, at one time it was reported that cause of death was poisoning by cyanid.
Read about Bergheim and an American woman, Jill St.Onge here.b They lived in neighbouring rooms in the same guesthouse.
06-17-2012, 04:09 AM #6
I read that the first 3 poisons were blamed on over-zealous bug treatment of the hotels.
Let's see how they explain these two.
06-17-2012, 04:23 AM #7
Here's a link to an Asian Website and Board where they are discussing. One man even mentions his wife had Dengue fever although it does not present like these horrible deaths.
This is when I don't mind being limited to Wildwood, New Jersey. You can get sick anywhere, and The Grand Scarborough Hotel even had an outbreak of Norwalk Virus, but good Lord you can get to hospital, and no matter be assured somebody will investigate properly.
Prayers for these young women and to all the others who have died this way in Phi Phi.
BTW, could it be a means of robbery that someone is causing cyanide poisoning? What are they spraying on those beds?
06-17-2012, 09:59 AM #8
I wonder did this all happen suddenly? Was there a point when they realised they needed help?
It shocks me that two young women could die such a terrible death with no one knowing
I had flu in Sri Lanka once, I thought I had typhoid, the hotel there gave me antibiotics without even examining me, I was so relieved to get back to Kuwait and the American ClinicEngland's dancing days are done...
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06-17-2012, 05:08 PM #10
I'm having difficulty in if it was "overzealous spraying" why the hotel workers didn't get sick/die. It's just "western" folk (*that we know of...).
It will be interesting to see how this plays out...and I'm sorry for all the folks who've died this way...poisoning is a terrible death, no questions about it.
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06-17-2012, 10:53 PM #11
HC makes a good point that if it was a chemical then why didn't the maid get ill? Or any employee for that matter?
The cyanide sounds like a maybe. They had arrested people there for cyanide fishing. Talk about a crazy practice.
Alright I may be way off, but some of those symptoms sound like diptheria (sic)? Does one need a booster when traveling to Thailand? If you did get one could you possibly have gotten sick from the booster? Well, dead from it?
From all I have been reading it's all about the sewers. Open waste like right at your feet or outside your window. A woman from Manchester died back home after she and her DD had walked in a rain storm in the puddles. You have people saying it is gorgeous, but it's the smell. It's the sewage.
Other than that could they have been partying with those buckets they put booze in? Someone could have slipped something in them?
Young women. So sad.
06-17-2012, 11:01 PM #12
06-17-2012, 11:20 PM #13Another spate of mysterious tourist deaths occurred last year in the northern Thai city of Chiang Mai, involving several visitors from different countries staying at the same hotel in January and February.
The cause of death was not established, though some evidence suggested the use of the chemical spray chlorpyrifos, used to kill bedbugs, may have been responsible.
06-18-2012, 09:08 AM #14
Looks like detectives are pitching ye olde "it were the blowfish, perhaps" explanation (along with posionous mushrooms) in a bid to save tourist dollars if nothing else:
Did Canadian sisters die of blowfish poisoning? Bodies of two women
sent to Bangkok for more tests as police remain baffled by violent deaths (Daily Mail)
06-18-2012, 02:33 PM #15
If people fish with cyanide, then isn't it possible they ate some of this contaminated fish? People are concentrating on the hotel, what about nearby restaurants?
Also, if it was intentional poisoning, what would be the reason? Were any of the victims robbed? Or could it have just been a hate for Westerners who come to their country?
Spraying for bedbugs could be a possibility, especially if they sprayed too much or even sprayed on the sheets themselves and didn't wash them, or sprayed the pillows instead of using heat to kill the bed bugs.
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