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    UK - Elizabeth Chau, 19, & Lola Shenkoya, 27, West Ealing, 1999/2000

    I could not see a thread about these two young women elsewhere so thought I would make one.

    Elizabeth (I think she may also have been called Liz) was a university student who was last seen on CCTV outside a police station on Uxbridge road in Ealing at 6pm 16th April 1999. She was only about five minutes from home where she lived with her parents, but after she went out of shot on the CCTV she was never seen again. She had no worries, enemies, or other problems and was working hard at university. She since she vanished there have been no clues to her disappearence, her bank account has not been touched etc.

    Nine months later in January 2000 a young woman called Lola Shenkoya vanished not from from where Elizabeth was last seen. The last time anyone saw Lola was after she got off a bus at Ealing broadway station. Like Elizabeth she had no reason to run away, a family that love her, and not one clue has been found since she vanished. It did turn out there was a seriel rapist living in Acton which is not far away, and he had in 1997 murdered a twelve year old girl, but no evidence was found to connect him and he never confessed. he died in prison a few years ago.

    I have got no idea what the area was like in 1999, but now it is busy with lots of people and cars about most of the day. I thin it was probably the same bac then. Ealing broadway station is also busy. It just seems the most unlikely place for two young women to just vanish especially as when Elizabeth disappeared it was still light.

    http://www.ealingtoday.co.uk/default...stcrime001.htm

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    Just to clarify for those who do not know London, Ealing and Acton are two areas in West London.

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    The way they disappeared makes me think of how Rose and Fred West picked up their victims. It makes me wonder if this is the work of another serial killing couple.

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    I know what you mean, but I cannot see either of them getting in a car with anyone. Elizabeth was only five minutes from home, and Lola had travelled to her destination. They were both sensible young women, so I cannot see them suddenly deciding to get in a car with a stranger, even a couple (although maybe if the weather was really bad they might have been more easily persuaded) However, I did wonder if they might have gone with a stranger if that stranger had asked for help. I think the suspect I mentioned above followed the victim he murdered home from school, so I wonder if that was a general MO following his victims off public transport, as Elizabeth and Lola had just got off public transport. But where could he have put them that the police have not discovered (I assume they have searched places he has lived)?
    http://nnet-server.com/server/common/concrime33.htm

    There were also two other women who disappeared in West London (hammersmith) the summer after Lola disappeared - Iwona Kaminska and Sinead healey. Sinead was later found and it turned out her boyfriend killed her, but I do not think Iwona was ever found. There were also two women murdered and found dismembered in the thames or regents canal in 2001, but the police believe they were victims of the camden ripper.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1194415.stm

    However six months before Elizabeth disappeared a woman was raped and murdered in Wembley which is not so far away. Her killer, james Citro, was caught twelve years later, and it was discovered he had at one time worked in Ealing ( I got the impression from the article this was sometime between 1997 and 2003), but I am not sure if he lived there.
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    Lucy Partington, a victim of the Wests, was certainly a sensible, intelligent young woman, a niece of novelist Kingsley Amis in her final year at Exeter University, one not given to enter a car driven by strangers. Yet she died at their hands too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfgodot View Post
    Lucy Partington, a victim of the Wests, was certainly a sensible, intelligent young woman, a niece of novelist Kingsley Amis in her final year at Exeter University, one not given to enter a car driven by strangers. Yet she died at their hands too.
    True, but that was in the 1970's when hitchhiking was more common, it is not common now especially for young women. Saying that one of Peter Tobin's victims in the 1990s was hitchiking, and another one vicky hamilton got into his car (but she was young and was waiting for a bus in the snow so may have been more easily lured into a warm car by a man her father's age). But the main reason I do not think they would have got into a stranger's car without being forced was that there was no need. Elizabeth was five minutes from home, and walked that route everyday, and Lola had just got off a bus at her destination. Plus I think the side of the road where Elizabeth was walking meant that traffic was coming towards her so she was unlikely to say yes if someone offered her a lift as it meant having to travel in the opposite direction for a bit. I think they could have been followed off the tube/bus, but the flaw in that theory was that Elizabeth was captured on CCTV at one point, and I would assume the police checked to see who passed after her and see if anyone suspicious turned up.
    However, the fact is they did disappear, and have not been found after more than a decade, so someone must have grabbed them somehow, so I do not think we can dismiss the idea they got into a car.

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    Lucy Partington had been last seen on her way to a bus stop; I don't think it's ever been satisfactorily established whether she was hitchhiking, or whether she was perhaps called to the Wests' vehicle on pretext of asking her a question, and thereby abducted.

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    Thats true, I did hear talk she may have been threatened or forced into the car. her family said she would never have got into a car even if there was a woman there. poor girl she had such a great future ahead of her, and it was stolen hideously because two strangers got a kick out of torturing girls.
    But i thin part of the fear of hitching is down to the wests, and I cannot imagine Elizabeth willingly getting into a strangers car five minutes from home. It would be interesting to see if it was raining that day or if she had a lot of books with her. I wonder if she was threatened into a car tough, as I woudl have thought someone would have seen her being dragged into a car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfgodot View Post
    Lucy Partington had been last seen on her way to a bus stop; I don't think it's ever been satisfactorily established whether she was hitchhiking, or whether she was perhaps called to the Wests' vehicle on pretext of asking her a question, and thereby abducted.
    I think they also often had children with them in the car or at least the baby seat. I think that a couple, with children is a very disarming presentation. So alot of young women who otherwise would be more cautious would be less worried about approaching a car perhaps as you suggest to answer a question or a plea for help.

    I also think that the perp having an MO of following public transport and "casing" his victims that way is likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brit1981 View Post
    Thats true, I did hear talk she may have been threatened or forced into the car. her family said she would never have got into a car even if there was a woman there. poor girl she had such a great future ahead of her, and it was stolen hideously because two strangers got a kick out of torturing girls.
    But i thin part of the fear of hitching is down to the wests, and I cannot imagine Elizabeth willingly getting into a strangers car five minutes from home. It would be interesting to see if it was raining that day or if she had a lot of books with her. I wonder if she was threatened into a car tough, as I woudl have thought someone would have seen her being dragged into a car.
    What if it were someone she slightly knew - from around the neighborhood or something? I think the general scenario of a perp luring women into his car (or near it to grab them) is likely to be modified as circumstances present themselves. If it was someone he slightly knew he could just start a casual conversation, if he has a woman accomplice or children in the car he could be counting on disarming them that way etc. Hard to say because it could vary with each kidnapping.


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    I have just realised I got into a car with strangers once on the basis they were a family and they saw I had missed my train. Obviously they were genuine, but I bet if they had not been everyone who nows me would have said I would never get into a car with strangers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brit1981 View Post
    I have just realised I got into a car with strangers once on the basis they were a family and they saw I had missed my train. Obviously they were genuine, but I bet if they had not been everyone who nows me would have said I would never get into a car with strangers.
    That's why I never take it as gospel when family and friends say the missing person would never do such and such. I think what they are saying is probably generally true but there are always un-forseen circumstances that might lead someone to do something they "would never do".

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    Another thing is right to next to the places where both girls disappeared there are small parks (we are talking about a block in size). I do not know if there were there at the time they disappeared, or if the girls had any reason to cross them, but I wonder if that could have played a part if the parks were there at the time. The parks are not busy so if a girl was walking across, and someone came up to them with a weapon and told them to walk with them or else, I am not sure anyone would have seen, whereas on the street there would be a greater chance of someone observing it.
    What I find scary is that you think an area is safe, but having just looked into it briefly I have already found two men who lived not far away who have prosecutions for rape and murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brit1981 View Post
    ......There were also two women murdered and found dismembered in the thames or regents canal in 2001, but the police believe they were victims of the camden ripper.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1194415.stm.....
    Zoe Parker and Paula Fields. As it turned out Paula Fields was killed by John Sweeney aka the Canal Killer. As far as I'm aware the Zoe Parker murder remains unsolved.

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    Some of the links in previous posts mention the theory that the two were victims of Andrezej Kanowski, who was convicted of another rape/murder and died in prison in 2009. In September 2014 attempts were made by lazy journo's to link the Alice Gross murder to these two disappearances, suggesting a common perp, ignoring the fact that Kanowski was dead and that the prime Gross suspect was in jail at the time of the Chau and Shenkoya disappearances. However, in relation to these cases, the most significant thing that emerged from the Gross case was that the Met Police publicly stated their belief that Kanowski was responsible for abducting and killing Chau and Shenkoya. They would not do this without significant supporting evidence, even if it falls short of proof. It will never be tested in court given Kanowski's death.

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