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    Quote Originally Posted by ~n/t~ View Post
    Really? Was Ted Bundy an abused child? Scott Peterson? Casey Anthony? Russell Williams? I suggest you do a little research and you will find that many psychopaths had/have better than average upbringings.

    One symptom that does come out is their hatred for their mothers. I don't know why that is.
    Perhaps I should have added some sort of dysfunctional family/relationships as a child. Even an obsessive and overbearing mother is abuse in my book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunday View Post
    There are indications that Luka was looking for a victim during the week prior to the murder. I think that it is very likely that when the upstairs neighbor declined and the CL ad didn't turn up anyone that he just went through his phone contacts. JL was probably just an aquaintance who he had gone out with a few times and he probably just told him he was bored and going through his contacts and decided to see if he wanted to hang out or get a drink or something. Or maybe order a pizza and watch a movie. Who knows. I doubt he was an long-intended target.
    Yeh, no links but as it was breaking day to day , I was sensing that LM was just ready needing to kill, he was over his life that simple - that is why he asked the neighbor ,who he had nothing to do with beofre to come on up!
    He did not and is alive. Very confused about J and LM - but do not think lover stuff , passed each other somewhere?

    LM ready to roll, no clue how but J just wrong place wrong time

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    Quote Originally Posted by CARIIS View Post
    That was not me !
    Oops, sorry! Wow, I was really getting worried. Thought we were talking to at least 2 of your personalities today! :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by CARIIS View Post
    That was not me !
    It was Manny...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunday View Post
    Oops, sorry! Wow, I was really getting worried. Thought we were talking to at least 2 of your personalities today! :P
    Thats funny, ugh I keep waiting for it to make sense - the navigation! And as a learning curve goes it is very erratic !
    But interesting, and my vote is if 9 of you were behind me, you would say what the hell are you doing, all you need to do is........................

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    Quote Originally Posted by CARIIS View Post
    Thats funny, ugh I keep waiting for it to make sense - the navigation! And as a learning curve goes it is very erratic !
    But interesting, and my vote is if 9 of you were behind me, you would say what the hell are you doing, all you need to do is........................
    I am also glad you pointed it out -- it was like oh god that was another sentenace about something else cut and paste and posted in the wrong link on the wrong post on the wrong ...............................UGH

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    Just found this past tweet from LM

    I just finished watching "The Good Son" I remember as a child I would watch this film over and over again. What a thrill!

    Has anyone seen this movie?

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    Okay found it. Good grief

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The Good Son


    In Arizona, 12-year-old Mark Evans (Elijah Wood) is playing a soccer game, until his father Jack (David Morse) appears and takes him to the hospital to visit his dying mother, Janice. After her death, Jack tries to console his son, but to no avail as Mark maintains the belief that his mother will return. Having been assigned for a business trip to Tokyo, Japan, Jack takes Mark to stay with his brother Wallace (Daniel Hugh Kelly) and sister-in-law Susan (Wendy Crewson). Upon reaching the Evans' house in Maine, Mark is re-introduced to his extended family, including his cousins Connie (Quinn Culkin) and Henry (Macaulay Culkin). Mark and Henry get along at first, and Henry seems to be nice and well-mannered. In discussing the death of Mark's mother and that of Henry's baby brother Richard, however, Henry expresses an abnormal fascination with death, making Mark uneasy.
    Henry continues to display increasingly psychopathic behavior, using a homemade crossbow to kill a neighbor's dog and cheerfully dropping a dummy he dubbed "Mr. Highway" onto a local highway, causing a pileup. Although nobody is killed in the crashes, or even seriously injured, Mark is horrified at Henry's actions and tries to tell Wallace. Henry drives him away, threatening to 'reveal' that causing the crash was actually Mark's idea.
    Later on, Henry implies that he will try to kill his sister. When Susan and Wallace go out to dinner, the boys babysit Connie and play hide and seek with the power off. Mark is terrified something will happen to Connie, but finds her. He then spends the night in her room.
    The next morning, Mark awakens to find Henry has taken Connie ice skating. Mark runs the pond where Henry purposely shoves his sister toward the thin ice. The ice collapses and Connie falls in the icy water, nearly drowning before she is rescued by two passersby and taken to the hospital. Mark again attempts to tell Susan the situation, but he is immediately dismissed as lying. Susan becomes skeptical of Henry, however, when he visits Connie's room, planning to smother her, but Susan, sitting in the dark, interrupts him. Susan then finds a rubber duck in Henry's shed. It had once belonged to Richard and was with him in the bathtub the night he drowned, after which it went missing. When Susan confronts Henry, he quietly becomes furious, insisting that the duck was his before it was Richard's. When Henry asks for it back, Susan refuses and he gets aggressive and snatches the duck back. Henry then throws it down the well, where he and Mark dumped the dog's carcass, indicating Richard ment nothing to him.
    Mark phones his father and informs him of the situation and Henry's increasing psychopathic acts. Jack is also somewhat dismissive and tells Mark he'll be home soon. In the meantime, he tells Mark to go to Dr. Alice Davenport, the local psychologist, and tell her of the situation. However, when he arrives he finds that Henry is already there twisting the situation to make it look like Mark is the one committing the psychopathic acts.
    After Mark tells Henry that "Susan's my mother now", Henry indirectly implies that he will kill Susan. In a fit of rage, Mark grabs a pair of scissors and jumps on Henry, pressing them to Henry's neck. As Henry arrogantly eggs Mark on to kill him, Wallace enters the room. Seeing Mark about to kill Henry, Wallace locks Mark in the den to await Alice. Meanwhile, a suspicious Susan arrives and goes on a walk with Henry. Mark escapes the den and chases after them.
    Susan confronts Henry about Richard's death and asks Henry firmly if he murdered his brother, to which he implies that he did. Horrified of what her son has become, Susan tells Henry that he needs help. He then runs off into the woods in fear of being committed to a psychiatric hospital. Susan chases him, afraid he will try to kill himself. She arrives at a cliff, which leads her to believe Henry has jumped into the water below. Henry suddenly appears behind her, amused at having fooled his mother yet again, and shoves Susan off the cliff. She narrowly catches a branch on the way down and holds on, while Henry picks up a large rock which he intends to throw down at her. As he prepares to throw it, Mark arrives and tackles his cousin, and they fight while Susan tries climbing back on to the ledge. In the ensuing brawl, the boys roll off the edge of the cliff, and are caught by Susan after climbing back up to the ledge. She arduously hangs on to each boy with one hand. Henry holds on with both his hands, but Mark's one-handed grip of Susan's bloody hand is slipping.
    Wanting to save them both, and yet understanding she can save only one of them, Henry tries to force Susan to bring him her other hand so that he would complete his goal, while Mark tries to warn her that Henry will kill her and the rest of his family so that he can get his revenge. Seeing Mark's way of telling the truth and forgiving him, she makes the painful decision to let go of Henry thus dropping him to his death to protect her family and to rescue Mark. She pulls him up, and they both look down to see Henry's dead body on the rocks below, which is washed away into the sea. Susan and Mark then share an emotional embrace as Mark saved his family from being killed.
    When Mark returns to Arizona, he goes to a large rocky hill in order to be alone with his thoughts. He wonders about Susan and if she would again make the same choice to save him instead of Henry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~n/t~ View Post
    Sorry for replying so late, Hastings. Today is a holiday here and I'm enjoying every minute before going back to work tomorrow.

    The apartment alleged in the media previous to the murder is the one closest to the convenience store. My understanding is the convenience store is located in the Point district. That is where Jun Lin lived. Eric Newman's apartment in May when he committed the crime (allegedly) is in the Snowdon/Cote des Neiges area. About 8 kms. apart. Which begs the question of where, how and when Jun Lin met Eric Newman? I think they may have met at the convenience store. If true, they may have known each other for some time if Eric lived in the Point from Feb 2011 (??) which leads me to believe this was premeditated. The why could very well be jealousy as some have already speculated here. Jun Lin had a lot going for him. He was everything Eric Newman was NOT.
    First and foremost on this day of observation, I'd like to wish you and all citizens of Quebec a very happy belated Saint Jean Baptiste Day.

    Thank you so much for your thoughtful reply ~n/t~, it is much appreciated.

    To clarify the question regarding the apartment in Point St. Charles that Magnotta lived from December 2011 until February 2012 which apparently was less than a kilometre from the convenience store where Lin worked as a part-time cashier:
    Would the convenience store Lin worked at be the closest convenience store to Magnotta's Point St. Charles apartment; the one Magnotta would be most likely to use?

    Thanks, in advance, for your thoughts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mbshafeena View Post
    I've seen it and was so disturbed I almos turned it off. The kid in it was evil. To me for some reason there's something more disturbing about psychological evil than outright gore in movies. I think it's the fact that one lurks beneath the surface and the other is easily apparent.

    It is worth noting that that movie didn't come out until 1993 and a lot could have happened to him inthe 11 years prior. However, the fact he watched it again and again makes it sound like he identified with it. Disturbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mbshafeena View Post
    Just found this past tweet from LM

    I just finished watching "The Good Son" I remember as a child I would watch this film over and over again. What a thrill!

    Has anyone seen this movie?
    Of course, I've seen "The Good Son" a few times. Who doesn't love a good Macaulay Culkin film?

    What info are you curious about Mbshafeena?

    Btw, "Party Monster" is another Macaulay Culkin film which I've thought of several times since this horrific crime occurred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToBeHonest View Post
    I've seen it and was so disturbed I almos turned it off. The kid in it was evil. To me for some reason there's something more disturbing about psychological evil than outright gore in movies. I think it's the fact that one lurks beneath the surface and the other is easily apparent.

    It is worth noting that that movie didn't come out until 1993 and a lot could have happened to him inthe 11 years prior. However, the fact he watched it again and again makes it sound like he identified with it. Disturbing.
    Was that the movie with Culkin in it? His bad acting (as usual) took away any sense of realism that would have made it disturbing to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HastingsChi View Post
    Its deleted. Appreciate you deleting your reply.
    Will do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunday View Post
    Was that the movie with Culkin in it? His bad acting (as usual) took away any sense of realism that would have made it disturbing to me.
    He was good in Party Monster. If you haven't seen it, check it out; there is a lot of what Magnotta may have wanted to be showcased...

    Btw, you didn't think Home Alone, Home Alone 2 or Richie Rich were realistic? I thought they were documentaries... LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by HastingsChi View Post
    Of course, I've seen "The Good Son" a few times. Who doesn't love a good Macaulay Culkin film?

    What info are you curious about Mbshafeena?

    Btw, "Party Monster" is another Macaulay Culkin film which I've thought of several times since this horrific crime occurred.
    Not curious as much as shocked that LM seemed to love that movie as a kid. Wondering if he fantasized at that time of doing something like that to his family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunday View Post
    Was that the movie with Culkin in it? His bad acting (as usual) took away any sense of realism that would have made it disturbing to me.
    Haha yes, I was pretty young and naive then though, so even he bad acting probably escaped me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~n/t~ View Post
    Really? Was Ted Bundy an abused child? Scott Peterson? Casey Anthony? Russell Williams? I suggest you do a little research and you will find that many psychopaths had/have better than average upbringings.

    One symptom that does come out is their hatred for their mothers. I don't know why that is.
    Actually, it seems that Ted Bundy was likely mentally and verbally abused, at the very least. His childhood was far from idyllic.

    http://www.psychwiki.com/wiki/221754..._Transmissions

    As for the others, who really knows?
    There are always exceptions.
    But yes--the hatred for their mothers--that is a "theme" that seems to be prevalent. The reason may be that most seem to have controlling mothers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HastingsChi View Post
    He was good in Party Monster. If you haven't seen it, check it out; there is a lot of what Magnotta may have wanted to be showcased...

    Btw, you didn't think Home Alone, Home Alone 2 or Richie Rich were realistic? I thought they were documentaries... LOL
    I did like Party Monster, even though I thought his performance once again sucked! Plus the fact that even as a grown man he still looks like a 12 year old boy. It creeps me out. Although I sure wish I aged like him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mbshafeena View Post
    Not curious as much as shocked that LM seemed to love that movie as a kid. Wondering if he fantasized at that time of doing something like that to his family.
    Haven't there been times that thoughts like that have crossed everyone's mind...

    From what has been published by MSM about Magnotta's family: it seems like there were many members of the family that experienced difficulties in their life and made poor choices in life. Unfortunately, at this point, we don't know the factors which led to these difficulties and the possibilities are endless. However noting the family history of poor choices, we can unequivocally state that Magnotta is not responsible for the issues of his extended family peers as his Aunt would lead you to believe.

    At this point the FACTS are: We know of no history of mental illness in his family. We have no proof that Magnotta is mentally ill.

    The speculation is endless....

    That being said, if you haven't seen the Good Son; the beginning seems to take forever but if you are able to trudge through it, it gets better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunday View Post
    I did like Party Monster, even though I thought his performance once again sucked! Plus the fact that even as a grown man he still looks like a 12 year old boy. It creeps me out. Although I sure wish I aged like him!
    There were a lot of talented makeup artists working on Party Monster... In person, Mac looks much more weathered... like an old catchers mitt...

    As you've seen Party Monster, I'm curious if you thought Alig was mentally ill or was controlled by his addictions or was it something else? I'd be thrilled to gain your thoughts (and anyone that has seen the film or are very familiar with Michael Alig).

    Maybe it is the way Angel is dismembered that I find myself comparing Magnotta and Alig but it could be more as I keep going back to that point of reference...

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    Originally Posted by Mbshafeena
    Not curious as much as shocked that LM seemed to love that movie as a kid. Wondering if he fantasized at that time of doing something like that to his family.
    I don't think it would be unusual if an abused child fantasized about killing his/her parents. The accrued rage left to foment can find an outlet in the imagination. I only read the brief synopsis about the movie but it doesn't seem as if Macaulay's character, Henry, was abused. Regardless I figure that making that movie was very cathartic for Macaulay since he had highly publicized discord with his parents.
    Last edited by Mozzmo; 06-25-2012 at 10:32 PM.

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    Brian Blackwell (born 1986) is an English murderer. He killed his parents - 72-year-old Brian and 61-year-old Jacqueline - at their home in Melling, a village in the northern suburbs of Liverpool, England, on 25 July 2004. Medical experts have since diagnosed Blackwell as having narcissistic personality disorder, which is characterised by extreme feelings of self-importance, a high need for admiration, and a lack of empathy.
    Blackwell was described as an "exemplary student" at Liverpool College and nicknamed "Brains" by his family. He created a web of lies about his life, including claiming he was a professional tennis player. To support his claims of wealth, he applied for thirteen credit cards in his father's name. He killed his parents after they became suspicious about his increasingly lavish lifestyle and began asking him questions about it. [1] He beat both with a claw hammer and stabbed them repeatedly. After the killings, he took his girlfriend Amal on holiday to New York, USA, where he spent £30,000, including the bill for a three night stay in the presidential suite at the Plaza Hotel. A week later he returned to school and found that he had earned As in all of his A-levels, which would have gained him a place at the University of Nottingham to study medicine in October. However, the decomposing bodies of his parents were found in September. The attacks were so severe that investigators initially thought the couple had been shot.
    During an interview, Blackwell claimed he knew nothing of his parents' deaths and was on holiday when they were murdered. After two days of questioning, Blackwell's story began to change. He confessed to the murders and claimed that he had acted in self-defence. According to Blackwell, he was holding a claw hammer for hanging a picture on the wall when his father stood up to hit him. Investigators had previously learned that Blackwell's father had been struck on the back of the head while sitting down, which conflicts with Blackwell's claim of self-defence. Afterwards, according to Blackwell, his mother came in, and he attacked her.
    Blackwell was charged with murder and was due to stand trial; however, that charge was dropped after he pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of manslaughter on the ground of diminished responsibility after experts diagnosed him to have narcissistic personality disorder. An episode of narcissistic rage can occur when the narcissist is perceivably being prevented from accomplishing their grandiose fantasies.[2] Blackwell was sentenced to life imprisonment on 29 June 2005. This was the first case in an English court where narcissistic personality disorder had been found to be a defence to murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CARIIS View Post
    See psychosis for more info.


    Uhmmm - yes, I know a great deal about psychosis and about Charles Manson and other psychopaths.

    My work involves murderers - young offenders aged 7 - 17.

    The abrupt manner of the post in the quote confuses me........
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    Blackwell was charged with murder and was due to stand trial; however, that charge was dropped after he pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of manslaughter on the ground of diminished responsibility after experts diagnosed him to have narcissistic personality disorder. An episode of narcissistic rage can occur when the narcissist is perceivably being prevented from accomplishing their grandiose fantasies.[2] Blackwell was sentenced to life imprisonment on 29 June 2005. This was the first case in an English court where narcissistic personality disorder had been found to be a defence to murder.
    Great find! I am confused, not about the defense of a narcissistic outburst, but about regards to how the diagnosis helped him other then to make his charge a lesser crime? He still was sentenced to life in prison. Would he have faced a death penalty otherwise?

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