At the pre-trial the Crown will present what evidence they have and their witnesses that will be used. The defense will have time to go over the evidence and based on that will discuss with LM if he should continue to plead not guilty or if the Crown brings to the table a plea bargain, lesser sentence, if LM pleads guilty to a lesser charge of 2nd degree murder or manslaughter. It may mean the difference of never getting out of prison on a first degree charge versus getting out for sure after 25 years or less. If this happens there will be no trial.
'abused" him outright but they fought a lot and he maybe was neglected because of the fighting. Apparently he was bullied in school and told to suck it up. I believe he had a brother as well and growing up in the same household, he wasn't a serial killer. Parents fighting and school bullying are so common with so many people, but I'm starting to believe you have to be born a certain way for your defense mechanisms for survival kick in to the point that you've lost all empathy for others.
He did talk about his mindset and crimes, and he said he was never sexually abused as a child. So how does his history translate to killing and eating his victims? Can people just be born with a screw loose that allows them to let evil enter into their lives? If you look at dogs, for instance, some are naturally dominant and aggressive, but most can be trained to obey if properly trained. But once in a while, there are some that just can't be trained. It begs the question, is this just a natural, but rare phenomenon?
Ah, okay. I'm in the US, so am pretty clueless as to how our neighbors to the north run their legal system? I don't expect you to know England's legal system when I don't know yours. Very interesting article all the same. Do you believe that type of defense could be used in Canada and actually have an impact on reducing LM's sentence? I don't believe the narcissistic outburst defense would work in the US court system...chances are the prisons are saturated with narcissists, antisocials, sociopaths and psychopaths. If they all get reduced sentences for their "fits of rage" the streets would be a lot less safe IMO.
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Long long time ago - bad kid kills stuff if i recall - !!!!!! I think that little kid from home alone was the killer --not sure tho!
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There is so much complexity to development. Brain chemistry plays a huge role and we are still just learning the nuances. For example, for years Drs have been prescribing antidepressants to patients with the same diagnosis but getting dramatically different results. Now they (research community) realize that you just can't carpet bomb the brain with certain medications and get the desired result. What calms and comforts 90% of individuals agitates and harms the other 10%. They are working on developing custom meds that target specific areas of the brain in each individual depending upon their specific needs/deficiencies.
Technical: Does everyone have to refresh before thanking or is it something on my end?
While I saw you posted something allegedly written by Magnotta in a internet forum it is important to consider how many of the posts that have been proven to be written by him have also been proven to be full of false information.
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Dahmers father wrote a book -- it was decent (not great!)
A Father's Story
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[quote=CuriousRus;8090413]There is proof of the escorting.
That is true! I stand corrected and TY!
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Okay, it's getting late and SB is getting a bit cranky, but
In the interests of general forum posting etiquette, I would respectfully request and really appreciate if posters could please do a bit more by way of <snips> of relevant information when quoting long posts by others; and take the time to preview their posts a bit to see how they look before hitting the submit button.
One example, post #888 contains a couple of small sentences, a couple of links, yet is filled with large amounts of blank space. Then the full post gets quoted as opposed to a <snip>, and ends up causing a lot of wasted space within the threads with redundant info. The purpose of the little blue arrow beside the quoted poster is there for others to review what the original post said if they wish to do so.
I'm not the forum police here, but I don't believe i'm alone in finding this thread particularly exhausting. Maybe we should have a psyche profile on cranky posters.
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I cut paste wrong that was cut and paste from another poster but i pasted wrong ! - Sorry about that
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Yes Sunday ... so sad that we have so many young peeps admiring LRM when Lin Jun would have been such a better role model for them. I had to step into parenting my own grandchildren who arrived with a lot of emotional baggage. As teens, they had a passing fancy with goth, vampires, and the like, but fortunately have matured into young adults who have developed more humanitarian interests such poverty, homelessness, environment, animal rights, etc.
I would have loved for them to have had a Lin Jun in their lives.