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    Quote Originally Posted by Sierra20 View Post
    I'm torn because I feel we do need more insight from people who actually knew him, but the only question and answer I found helpful or insightful in this interview was the downfall of both porn stars named Eric...
    I did not like the photos here.

    It is odd the significant lack of anyone coming forward to claim they know him in a more in depth way. Some psycho/sociopaths just don't connect much, they lead more loner existences. He is an oxymoron of sorts, seemingly not really having any friends for any significant amount of time, yet he went through so much effort to get the attention of others. Enigma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mozzmo View Post
    It is odd the significant lack of anyone coming forward to claim they know him in a more in depth way. Some psycho/sociopaths just don't connect much, they lead more loner existences. He is an oxymoron of sorts, seemingly not really having any friends for any significant amount of time, yet he went through so much effort to get the attention of others. Enigma.
    It's possible that he liked social gatherings and didn't like one-on-one relationships. He could enjoy a party and attention, but he didn't want any deeper connection, possibly. I say this as an extrovert myself who can really enjoy people -- even random people Great fun! But when it comes to sharing my business, I don't like a wide circle for that.

    When I ran around with my psychopath, she was a life-of-the-party girl. Attention galore. But she didn't have many close friends. She had tons of friends, but few knew her well at all. In her case, and surely Eric's, it was harder to keep up the facade when being deeper and truer about her thoughts and feelings. She fared much better with jokes and chit-chat and party games.

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    An ex-girlfriend said that he did not like going out to socialize. Also, in the video of him at a night club he seems terribly uncomfortable, as others have commented here. But he does seem like he was very capable of putting on the charm when needed, as seen in interview footage.

    Quote Originally Posted by writer7 View Post
    It's possible that he liked social gatherings and didn't like one-on-one relationships. He could enjoy a party and attention, but he didn't want any deeper connection, possibly. I say this as an extrovert myself who can really enjoy people -- even random people Great fun! But when it comes to sharing my business, I don't like a wide circle for that.

    When I ran around with my psychopath, she was a life-of-the-party girl. Attention galore. But she didn't have many close friends. She had tons of friends, but few knew her well at all. In her case, and surely Eric's, it was harder to keep up the facade when being deeper and truer about her thoughts and feelings. She fared much better with jokes and chit-chat and party games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sillybilly View Post
    OT, but don't know where to put it:

    Why is THIS pic showing up with an article on computer virus?

    http://www.theprovince.com/news/Rans...470/story.html

    Oh, good grief. You'd think they'd know better than that.

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    Hey HAL9000 Welcome!!! wow, I've just heard that phone call, to me that's Luka for sure, IMHO it sounds exactly like him! just compare that phone call with the audio from some videos on youtube (like the plastic surgery audition and cover guy) or listen to some videos like "luka at his condo" or "Luka magnotta footage from summer", "luka saying hi to his fans". It sounds the same... creepy...

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    Hey there!

    I'm brand new here and consider myself a bit of a true crime buff in my free
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    I'm sorry for the super long introduction post here. I just wanted to share this strange clip. Keep up the awesome sleuthing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scientific View Post
    An ex-girlfriend said that he did not like going out to socialize. Also, in the video of him at a night club he seems terribly uncomfortable, as others have commented here. But he does seem like he was very capable of putting on the charm when needed, as seen in interview footage.
    Yeah, that part is so strange for someone who likes attention so much. Maybe he liked socializing in a small crowd, at folks' houses/apartments? Not wanting to be seen in public is often different than going to a very private setting. Especially if one likes being on any substance.

    It does seem like he ended up spending most of his time on the web. I guess he got his attention there, but it was so troll-y that it baffles me that anyone would like that. I guess the web generation may feel differently about things like that, though. Maybe his web presence was his real goal and how he satisfied all his social urges.

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    "Meanwhile, others had come across Magnotta’s escort postings -- often under variations of "Jimmy" -- and had tried calling the phone number attached. That number was actually for a man known only by the name of "Bill," who appears to have been Magnotta’s handler. His ad, for “models gay, bi or straight for [private adult entertainment],” appeared in the Toronto Sun. He was contacted by Xtra and confirmed his name and occupation but declined to comment."

    http://www.xtra.ca/public/National/P...rer-12097.aspx

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    I was never left with the impression that his is charming when looking at the interviews he gave. I am left with the feeling "odd"...somthing is wrong..I found him to be zombie-like. IMO part of his lack of success is due to his gross lack of charm. He might have been much more successful, even as a prostitute had he more charisma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by writer7 View Post
    It's a serious disorder and would be a kind of hell on earth to be born in a body you don't identify with, imho. It's terribly insensitive to not try to understand what it must be like.

    This may be a good time to remind folks, too, that 'tranny' is not a word the general population should use, unless you don't mind being seen as rude about the subject. And yes, call someone by what they identify as if you are aware of it, like 'she' for Nina.
    Yes, it seems that some of the reactions to Nina are symptomatic of a lack of sensitivity and understanding of human sexuality. I dont agree with your assertion that its a serious disorder though. I personally think its more of a societal problem. Its western cultures simplistic and rigid comprehension of sex/gender categories and roles to a one dimensional ideology of sexual dismorphism, that refuses to aknoweldge natures diversity. Its societies fixation on biological sex to match with the ‘appropriate’ gender performance that is the problem.

    But thats just my humble opinion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mozzmo View Post
    I was never left with the impression that his is charming when looking at the interviews he gave. I am left with the feeling "odd"...somthing is wrong..I found him to be zombie-like. IMO part of his lack of success is due to his gross lack of charm. He might have been much more successful, even as a prostitute had he more charisma.
    Yeah, I don't see where this "charm" thing is coming from. He seems sort of dull and expressionless.

    The Toronto Sun interview about Homolka is case and point.

    I mean, here is a guy who is claiming his life is being ruined by online rumours, and he's standing there talking about it in a calm and monotone voice and expressionless face.

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    Just throwing this out there, any chance that LM had a slight hearing problem?
    Sometimes adult problems begin with a seemingly innocuous childhood physical condition.

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    One good reason( besides all the ones we know about) for being non judgemental, is it might generate tips from those people who might otherwise not report them.
    http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Crime/20.../19950936.html

    The Interpol crackdown, a global operation targeting more than 500 people wanted by more than 50 countries, urges people to scrutinize photographs of wanted suspects to see if they have met them or may have stumbled across them on social networking sites online.

    Assistance from the public can be crucial, say officials, who highlighted the recent capture of alleged killer Luka Magnotta as an example. Magnotta, who was wanted for the murder and dismemberment of Concordia University student Jun Lin, was arrested thanks to a tip just four days after Interpol Ottawa issued a red notice.

    "It's a blitz we're doing. For us, everyone who's on a red notice, we're looking for them," said Sgt. Marie Damian, with Interpol Ottawa. "If we had more people looking at (suspects), that would be helpful."

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    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousRus View Post
    That's not normal childhood behavior, I mean the insect experimenting thing? I think that might be a little boy (and some girls) curiosity thing and not necessarily a sign things will escalate to larger animals or a seed for psychopathic behavior. I would guess that if you gave a magnifying glass to a boy in the sun around ants, he would probably both burn his own finger and then see if it works on ants. As an adult, I would sit a kid down and explain why this behavior is wrong, but I wouldn't see the behavior as a precursor to larger scale problems to come. But i also agree that a child who grows up to be a psychopath, probably did start with something small like an insect.
    I think we all experience the same things in life (varying degrees due to environment) and subconsciously tick the boxes we enjoy along the way. Instinctively we return to the experiences where we ticked the box we enjoyed and our personalities develop along the way.
    Just like a photograph.

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    A new article provides some insights that I feel that might spur a most interesting discussion on Magnotta's psychology.

    First some background:
    Vice Magazine (originally launched as the Voice of Montreal) is a Canadian magazine and media conglomerate focused on international arts & culture. Vice is also known for championing the "Immersionist" school of journalism which has recently produced universally praised exposes on issues in North Korea, the Japanese nuclear crisis, mental disorders; among countless others.

    Bruce LaBruce is a Canadian writer, filmmaker and photographer who is a contributing writer for Vice Magazine whose articles focus on culture, arts and GLBTQ issues.

    With that understanding, I found it appropriate to share LaBruce's latest article for Vice Magazine which is the most interesting interview I've read with Magnotta's ex-Nina Arsenault.

    From Vice Magazine 4 July 2012
    By Bruce LaBruce
    Wondering... An Interview with Nina Arsenault Continues
    http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/wonde...senault-part-2

    Topics covered include: Magnotta's gender identity, sexual trauma in the sex industry, the recipients of the human remains, Magnotta's multiple online personalities and many more.


    I'd be interested in everyone's thoughts on this interview with Nina Arsenault.




    Btw, part one of the interview which I didn't find interesting can be found here: http://www.vice.com/read/wondering-p...onsters-part-2
    Not seen this interview, thank you for posting it.

    Quote Originally Posted by sillybilly View Post
    OT, but don't know where to put it:

    Why is THIS pic showing up with an article on computer virus?

    http://www.theprovince.com/news/Rans...470/story.html
    I picked up a few red flags in avast this week

    Quote Originally Posted by Sierra20 View Post
    Yeah I don't think they realise exactly where that photo came from!!!
    The classified section to that link strongly relinks to puppy sales websites

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    But think about it--if you're a narcissist you're really terribly insecure inside, creating a false self to hide the shame. You want to control that image of yourself so that others give you the positive attention you so badly crave, rather than negative attention. He probably felt uncomfortable in situations he couldn't control. ...definitely seems to have control issues and is probably terrified by solitary confinement.

    Quote Originally Posted by writer7 View Post
    Yeah, that part is so strange for someone who likes attention so much. Maybe he liked socializing in a small crowd, at folks' houses/apartments? Not wanting to be seen in public is often different than going to a very private setting. Especially if one likes being on any substance.

    It does seem like he ended up spending most of his time on the web. I guess he got his attention there, but it was so troll-y that it baffles me that anyone would like that. I guess the web generation may feel differently about things like that, though. Maybe his web presence was his real goal and how he satisfied all his social urges.

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    If he was like a zombie he would have been sitting there, saying nothing, no smile on his face, no efforts to manipulate or engage. I wasn't saying I was charmed by him, but rather that he is capable of being that way when he needs to be. And you have the bias of watching his footage after knowing certain key facts. Most people he encountered before would not have guessed how depraved he was. Now, when he wanted to be creepy it was really obvious such as when he threatened the reporter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mozzmo View Post
    I was never left with the impression that his is charming when looking at the interviews he gave. I am left with the feeling "odd"...somthing is wrong..I found him to be zombie-like. IMO part of his lack of success is due to his gross lack of charm. He might have been much more successful, even as a prostitute had he more charisma.

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    All I can say is hindsight is 20/20.

    Quote Originally Posted by thedissent View Post
    Yeah, I don't see where this "charm" thing is coming from. He seems sort of dull and expressionless.

    The Toronto Sun interview about Homolka is case and point.

    I mean, here is a guy who is claiming his life is being ruined by online rumours, and he's standing there talking about it in a calm and monotone voice and expressionless face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scientific View Post
    If he was like a zombie he would have been sitting there, saying nothing, no smile on his face, no efforts to manipulate or engage. I wasn't saying I was charmed by him, but rather that he is capable of being that way when he needs to be. And you have the bias of watching his footage after knowing certain key facts. Most people he encountered before would not have guessed how depraved he was. Now, when he wanted to be creepy it was really obvious such as when he threatened the reporter.
    Even if I am biased, put that aside. Other's that interviewed LM felt the same oddness. I don't see his charm. He wasn't charming enough to get the audition for the underwear model show. In fact, his over the top "lots of people say I'm devastatingly goodlooking" pretty much sucked the air out of that room. During the plastic surgery interview he's calmly talking about his recall of feeling blood dripping down his neck during his hair transplants and then later describes concern with growing "devil horns" out of his forehead. Bizarre. I definitely would have felt he was odd without knowing a thing. Would I know that he'd commit the horrific acts he did, no. Who would? That's part of the intrigue with these sorts of criminals, they can look like your neighbors.... I tell my daugher, that when you get that weird feeling with someone...just get away...don't wait to find out what its about or you'll end up in a ditch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinwonderland View Post
    "Meanwhile, others had come across Magnotta’s escort postings -- often under variations of "Jimmy" -- and had tried calling the phone number attached. That number was actually for a man known only by the name of "Bill," who appears to have been Magnotta’s handler. His ad, for “models gay, bi or straight for [private adult entertainment],” appeared in the Toronto Sun. He was contacted by Xtra and confirmed his name and occupation but declined to comment."

    http://www.xtra.ca/public/National/P...rer-12097.aspx
    The link in your post leads to the perp's allegged mother AY. Very rare photos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scientific View Post
    All I can say is hindsight is 20/20.
    Fair enough. I can't say how I would have regarded him otherwise as a serial animal torturer and murderer. I find so much about his demeanour superficial and insincere. Like the "plastic surgery" try out video. I mean, the whole thing seemed like a major trolling effort (two bumps that look like horns?!).

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    Six mailings/packages ?

    Quote Originally Posted by sillybilly View Post
    OT, but don't know where to put it:

    Why is THIS pic showing up with an article on computer virus?

    http://www.theprovince.com/news/Rans...470/story.html
    This may be getting a little wayyyyy out there...but thinking about the LE reference to six mailings/packages...it was very vague...
    So...Mailings/packages:

    #1,2,3,4 - Feet, hands to symbolic/societal entities
    # 5 - "Mailing" - somehow "delayed" via "reminder" e-mail, or flower delivery, etc where one can specify deilvery date that included photo or description of head location
    # 6 - "delivery" of a Ransomware virus, asking $100 per clear (maybe linked to searching on LRM postings?)

    And in someone's very sick mind the "fame and fortune" he sought?? Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tucarra View Post
    This may be getting a little wayyyyy out there...but thinking about the LE reference to six mailings/packages...it was very vague...
    So...Mailings/packages:

    #1,2,3,4 - Feet, hands to symbolic/societal entities
    # 5 - "Mailing" - somehow "delayed" via "reminder" e-mail, or flower delivery, etc where one can specify deilvery date that included photo or description of head location
    # 6 - "delivery" of a Ransomware virus, asking $100 per clear (maybe linked to searching on LRM postings?)

    And in someone's very sick mind the "fame and fortune" he sought?? Thoughts?
    Yeah, the sixth package has me dwelling, as well, but that seems too obscure. I was expecting the dog to show up at some animal rights org or something, but it has been too long now. Anything he intended to do would have to have been planned before his capture because he is too closely monitored in prison to do anything from behind bars. I guess if there was in fact an accomplice they could have something planned, but what? And if there had been an accomplice, don't you think that he would have thrown him/her under the bus by now?

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    I don't think he would have thrown an accomplice under the bus,I don't think he's admitting to anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellybeanz View Post
    The link in your post leads to the perp's allegged mother AY. Very rare photos.
    Donyale posted this link for us in another thread, but several posts down there are more links to social media sites

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...ient=firefox-a
    Last edited by Sierra20; 07-05-2012 at 05:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by claudicici View Post
    I don't think he would have thrown an accomplice under the bus,I don't think he's admitting to anything?
    His German lawyer said something to the effect of him wanting to clear this whole thing up or something like that (I'll try to find the video in a bit and post link). To me that indicates that he has said something. IDK, I could be wrong. Just thinking that he has some excuse, explanation, or rationale for his acts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by claudicici View Post
    I don't think he would have thrown an accomplice under the bus,I don't think he's admitting to anything?
    I don't think we have any credible evidence yet that there is an accomplice.

    Police located the final remains of Jun Lin in Montreal.

    LE say it came from a "tip", which really could have from any number of sources:

    • an anonymous tip from a random person who discovered the remains
    • a non-anonymous tip from a random person who discovered the remains
    • an anonymous tip from a non-random person who LRM has communicated with, but who played no role in the crime.
    • an non-anonymous tip from a non-random person who LRM has communicated with, but who played no role in the crime.
    • an anonymous tip potentially from LRM's legal team (LRM disclosed to his lawyers the location of the remains)
    • no tip, just police work via data from LRM's computer, phone, apartment, phone conversations, or any number of other sources
    • indirectly from LRM, who may have disclosed location to a police informant while in jail in Canada (or Germany).
    • directly from LRM, who may have disclosed location to LE as a means to garner some advantage in sentencing if he pleads guilty


    There are likely more options, but those are just a few that do not require us to complicate things and hypothesize accomplices and third parties, where there is no evidence for it, at least yet.

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