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    Quote Originally Posted by Secrett View Post
    It will be interesting to see if that anon comment is true, one can only hope.
    Thanks! That is interesting to say the least.

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    I have nothing to add, but I just wanted to say thank you, and that I think you are all doing a wonderful job! I know someone said a couple of posts up that they were getting frustrated, but please don't give up - every post is a step closer to finding out who this poor boy is and bringing him and the other children in this situation home.

    I like to think this boy is able to read this and take some hope from the fact that people do care and are trying so hard to help him. And I'm so proud to be a member of this site with all of you wonderful people!

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    Fellow sleuthers: Something has been nagging my brain about this young man ever since I saw his picture. When I first aaw it I thought "he's Russian or Eastern European"! Cannot shake this feeling. Could it be that the reason he may not be able to ask for help (other than the obvious part of being locked up) is because he can't speak English? (Like if he's taken out and moved around) Child porn business is huge over there. Some kind of swap? Just can't get rid of the feeling that he may not be American.
    Yes - appears Russian to me as well. ICE is involved - but they came across the video while working another case. According to ICE statement - they have the full video but are only releasing these stills. The boy talks to an adult who is off - camera. I would like more details - does the boy speak with an accent. Or English at all...Perhaps the video obtained has no audio - or even if so these 2 stills would be all they choose to release.

    Do you know this person? ICE seeks public's help to identify a person in need.
    MINNEAPOLIS – U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement's (ICE) Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) is urgently seeking the public's help to identify the pictured individual who may need law enforcement assistance, but may not be able to request it.

    We have reason to believe that this person may now live, or may have lived at one time, in either Minnesota or western Wisconsin.

    If you think you know this person, please contact HSI at:

    ICE Tip Line: 866-347-2423; this number is staffed 24 hours a day.
    Local HSI Duty Phone: 952-853-2690; select option 1, and then option 4, to leave a message for the duty special agent.
    Email SPMduty@ice.dhs.gov or complete the online HSI Tip form at www.ice.gov/tips/
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    "We know that the people involved in this are in a dangerous environment based on the information we've received and the intelligence we've gathered so far," said ICE spokesman Shawn Neudauer.
    “We believe he lived or may have lived in Minnesota or western Wisconsin,” Neudauer said. “It is entirely possible this young man is not currently in Minnesota or Wisconsin, but has either a friend or relative in the area, or recently moved from one of those states.”
    "We need to find this person," he said.
    Neudauer said the photos are still shots from an online video. In the photograph, the teen is pictured wearing a blue and red Minnesota Twins T-shirt. Other details released by ICE:
    •The teen is between ages 13 and 19
    •Photos were taken in a basement
    •The photos are no more than 18 months to 24 months old, based on the Minnesota logo and when it first appeared in the market (July 2010) – also, it appears faded from several washings.
    Just a sidenote here - the following 3 photos are of the same boy. To me - they look like 3 different people. The source is The Charley Project.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleuthsayers View Post
    Some have suggested Tyler Schladweiler, as far as I know its solely based on the general age range and wide set eyes.

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...ler_tyler.html
    You asked in a previous post why I think it's Tyler and it's for this very reason.

    BUT, Taylor also has the wide set eyes. Also in the one picture of the UID boy, his left ear looks identical to the left ear (as far as how it sticks out and the shape) of the picture of Taylor where he has his nose scrunched.


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    I dont think it is impossible, but Tyler was a parental abduction. I think it is harder for me to imagine him coming to the place this child we are looking for is today.
    Tyler is a parental abduction, but that doesn't mean anything. I'm a member of a parental abduction board and the stories are horrific as to what some of the abducted children are exposed to and have to endure. Sad!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pdxmama View Post
    Thank you, Salem! However, I do think it needs to be made clear that there has been NO confirmation at this point that the arrest in Wisconsin is in any way connected to the source of these images. That seemed to be stated as fact and we are only sleuthing the possibility.

    Also, for those that were wondering, it was stated earlier in the thread that ICE/ Homeland Security becomes involved in cases involving human trafficking and Internet child pornography. We are assuming that this is the reason for their involvement in this case.
    I agree! There has been NO confirmation at this point that the arrest of EJW in Wisconsin is in any way connected to the source of these images.

    It is one possibility. The reasons I felt it could be related are 1) location, 2) both cases mention a video, 3) ICE is involved in child pornography cases.

    At this point, we simply cannot state for sure that EJW downloaded and/or emailed the video that contains this unidentified boy in the Twins shirt.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jersey*Girl View Post
    Google search of his hotmail address. DO NOT LINK HIS ADULT SITES ON HERE. THEY ARE VERY GRAPHIC. Thank you.

    tekwar19@hotmail - Google Search
    EJW is a sicko. I made the mistake of clicking on one of his accounts/sites. One I got an adult content warning, the other I did not. One says he owns porn. I am not clicking on anything else - now it is in my internet history. Uggh.



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    Here are some photos of similar Minnesota T-shirts from auction website.

    ICE statement informs shirt is blue and red in released photos.
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    I'm starting to think that maybe this boy is originally from out of the country. His features to me look very similar to many of the Russian and Eastern European children I've seen adopted form orphanages or that have come to the country as children.

    FAS is a huge problem in Russia and many other countries that were part of the USSR because of the attitude that many people there have towards alcohol consumption. If this boy is about 15 year old, he would have been born at a time when FAS was even more prevalent than it is now. A mild form of FAS could result in some physical symptoms but not *all* of them, and some research shows that drinking early in pregnancy might lead to the "moon face" often seen in children with FAS that don't have severe impairments.

    Add to that fact that he wasn't a native English speaker and the ICE might have been moved to state that he may not be able to ask for help. Even if this child himself didn't suffer from direct FAS, he may have had a parent who did, and who passed on some facial features indicative of the syndrome.

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    So I was looking on Taylor Druyor's myspace and one of his friends had a video in his basement (I guess its his basement) of the same looking joist jack/pole looking thing.. Im sure its just a coincidence as it doesnt really look like the same space, but it gives people a better idea of maybe what the basement might look like in general.

    I do think Taylor bares a striking resemblance to this young man, and even his myspace pic he put the caption of something like "this is my alien head" obviously speaking of his rare and distinguishing features, just as this boy has.. Which I am not saying he has FAS or anything to be clear, in fact the video may be distorting his features.. I do think he has an unforgettable face though and I do believe he looks a lot like Taylor.

    Anyway, hope this doesnt blow the margins. If so, I will delete the photo...



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    In this older photo there are some things in background. This image is used on Charley Project website - cropped so no background is visible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KindraLore View Post
    So I was looking on Taylor Druyor's myspace and one of his friends had a video in his basement (I guess its his basement) of the same looking joist jack/pole looking thing.. Im sure its just a coincidence as it doesnt really look like the same space, but it gives people a better idea of maybe what the basement might look like in general.

    I do think Taylor bares a striking resemblance to this young man, and even his myspace pic he put the caption of something like "this is my alien head" obviously speaking of his rare and distinguishing features, just as this boy has.. Which I am not saying he has FAS or anything to be clear, in fact the video may be distorting his features.. I do think he has an unforgettable face though and I do believe he looks a lot like Taylor.

    Anyway, hope this doesnt blow the margins. If so, I will delete the photo...
    Very interesting. I keep thinking of Taylor too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsPlayThing View Post
    Yes - appears Russian to me as well. ICE is involved - but they came across the video while working another case. According to ICE statement - they have the full video but are only releasing these stills. The boy talks to an adult who is off - camera. I would like more details - does the boy speak with an accent. Or English at all...Perhaps the video obtained has no audio - or even if so these 2 stills would be all they choose to release.
    He looks Russian or other East European to me, too. At first, I thought it was partially my imagination filling in blanks because of the nature of the investigation.

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    I suggest we focus. The child lived possibly in Minnesota and or Western Wisconsin in possibly the last 18 months. Someone saw him, we hope. Someone noticed him at the store, the park, the backyard. Hopefully he was out and above ground at some point. Someone delivered pizza and he was in the room...he is distinctive looking. As for FAS, we dont know. We have some limited facts from LE and they believe he was in the US in those places or that place within the last 18 months.

    Clearly we have LE and perhaps the media watching this thread. Let's make the most of the opportunity to contribute to the conversation. I appreciate all of the discussion regarding the machinery, regarding Wesser's businesses, regarding the structure of the basement. fwiw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laura08 View Post
    I think these pictures have been posted before of this child, but I can't remember when or where I saw them. Someone has to recognize this boy, I wonder if they have checked schools, if he was enrolled in a school they always keep pics on file from the photographers here at schools. An anon claims to have identified the boy.http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/21...angered-child/

    That has to be the most atrocious set of comments I have ever seen on a story this disturbing....I am talking about the CNN story. Anon comment is on page 7.
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    "We know that the people involved in this are in a dangerous environment based on the information we've received and the intelligence we've gathered so far," said ICE spokesman Shawn Neudauer.

    “We believe he lived or may have lived in Minnesota or western Wisconsin,” Neudauer said. “It is entirely possible this young man is not currently in Minnesota or Wisconsin, but has either a friend or relative in the area, or recently moved from one of those states.”


    "We need to find this person," he said.


    Neudauer said the photos are still shots from an online video. In the photograph, the teen is pictured wearing a blue and red Minnesota Twins T-shirt. Other details released by ICE:
    •The teen is between ages 13 and 19
    •Photos were taken in a basement
    •The photos are no more than 18 months to 24 months old, based on the Minnesota logo and when it first appeared in the market (July 2010) – also, it appears faded from several washings.
    Well I am confused. They know from investigating the general area where the boy is from. They know he is wearing a faded blue and red shirt from 2010 - even though the shirt appears grey to me. Seems like checking missing persons reports from area and timeframe would get the name. Unless not reported missing. Or name is known and being protected - it is the whereabouts that are of interest. Anything we can do from home - analyze photos. Check missing persons databases have been done. And on a far greater scale. If kept in basement - the only people knowing or getting info on the boy would be involved. Either physically or possible online activities.

    Why are they asking public. Why not make a plea to family? Someone is missing a son - a brother - a grandchild - a cousin ?
    Well I mean in addition to public statement - appeal to family.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsPlayThing View Post
    Well I am confused. They know from investigating the general area where the boy is from. They know he is wearing a faded blue and red shirt from 2010 - even though the shirt appears grey to me. Seems like checking missing persons reports from area and timeframe would get the name. Unless not reported missing. Or name is known and being protected - it is the whereabouts that are of interest. Anything we can do from home - analyze photos. Check missing persons databases have been done. And on a far greater scale. If kept in basement - the only people knowing or getting info on the boy would be involved. Either physically or possible online activities.

    Why are they asking public. Why not make a plea to family? Someone is missing a son - a brother - a grandchild - a cousin ?

    Because they dont know who he is. That is my opinion. If you read the first few pages of the thread, a sleuther sent in Taylor Druyor as a tip. An agent wrote back and indicated that tips like hers solve cases.

    To me that would indicate they are looking for his identity as well as his location. Minnesota and Western Wisconsin are some pretty big areas. And the video may be 18 mos to 24 mos old.
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    http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/08...?iref=obinsite

    I've been following this story along with you as I am also haunted by this boy's pictures. The above link is from June 8 regarding recent child pornography arrests made by federal agencies. Possibly this boy's pictures were discovered along with the evidence in those cases. The article mentions several victims were rescued so perhaps they were able to obtain some limited information about this boy as well.

    I hope he can be rescued too. Thank you all for the amazing work you do here.

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    I have read many articles on this. One article said they could at least help one other child. Another article said they could help multiple children. One comment claimed the boy was involved with a small child on video at the link below post 91. I don't think this child is Taylor, I just don't think they resemble so much but it could be. Something is wrong with the boy he looks so sad, the picture of him looking to the side makes it seem he is scared of getting caught, or someone is speaking to him and it looks like his hands are behind his back. I really hope they figure out his name and get him and the other the help they need. Also wanted to say I don't believe he is 19 he is much younger by the photos.

    http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...-teen#comments
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandy113 View Post
    http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/08...?iref=obinsite

    I've been following this story along with you as I am also haunted by this boy's pictures. The above link is from June 8 regarding recent child pornography arrests made by federal agencies. Possibly this boy's pictures were discovered along with the evidence in those cases. The article mentions several victims were rescued so perhaps they were able to obtain some limited information about this boy as well.

    I hope he can be rescued too. Thank you all for the amazing work you do here.
    Here is another one I found also it was in June 2012 http://www.fox10tv.com/dpps/news/nat...-ring-_4199549

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    Quote Originally Posted by shefner View Post
    I believe this young man is a victim and this is why ICE is "urgently" seeking the public's help. This type of request happens very infrequently, often as a last ditch effort to help those who are being sexually abused.

    I remember a few years back when LE released the photo of a young girl from a video where she was being sexually assaulted. She was about 4-5 years old, I recall. From the still photo they released, the perp was ID'd and arrested. Then all photos of this young victim were removed from the public domain. It was only because of the severity of the crime that LE was willing to release the photo of this child, in an effort to locate the criminal.

    I agree with the suggestion that this young man may be from another part of the world, brought to the US. This could be why ICE is involved. Also, the video could have been released to someone from another country and this caused their involvement.
    I remember that -- after releasing the stills, they must not have been able to identify her, so they released her first name, too. It turned out that she was local (in Las Vegas) and the person assaulting her was her grandmother's husband or boyfriend (I don't remember which).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambercat View Post
    I remember that -- after releasing the stills, they must not have been able to identify her, so they released her first name, too. It turned out that she was local (in Las Vegas) and the person assaulting her was her grandmother's husband or boyfriend (I don't remember which).
    And she didnt remember. It was a video tape that was passed around...
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    Sorry, I feel like a troll. Going to try just ignoring pointless salacious comments.



    Anyway...

    Remember when Sean Hornbeck (sp) was found and it turned out he had been to and even commented on a message board about him?

    If this kid (or someone who knows who/where he is) is reading this...
    what could we say that might make him reach out and tell us who/where he is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by believe09 View Post
    Looking forward to reading what you have to contribute to a solution Sleuthsayers.
    I've already contributed my limited insight.

    I don't know any more than anyone else, I just feel that some of these comments are not only pointless but actually offensive.

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    I can't find the anon comment possibly IDing him.

    My page 7 comments don't have an anon post.

    Is it possible to link it?

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