What I am curious about is everyone's interpretation of why DSJr fudged the arrival time?
What was taking place between 3:20pm and 4pm that had DSJr eliminate those 40 minutes from his timeline and actually have placed Michelle out driving around in the Hummer? I know some of us assume there was an altercation taking place between them during that time but what else?
Is it possible the Hummer WAS out driving around close to the condo during this time frame? Was he worried about a witness siting of the Hummer between 3:30pm and 4pm? Could he have used it for a quick disposal prior to leaving for his parent's place?
Or was it just to try to co-ordinate with the 4:26pm Waterford text that was sent from her phone? Or to perhaps dispel any possible witnesses that may have heard arguing coming from the vicinity of the condo?
IIRC, the first we heard of Michelle arriving at 4:00 pm came from Lauren reporting what Dale told either her or Yvonne. The first time they were able to contact him was sometime around 8pm. It was after they had contacted the police and Momma Dale had Baby Dale contact Michelle's family. So by then, it was "after the fact." IMHO, Baby Dale was attempting to fit her arrival time with his planned alibi of arriving at the Rose Blvd residence at 4:30.
IMHO, Baby Dale either forgot about the neighbor's surveillance camera, or had attempted to disable it and failed. The police noticed the camera and spoke to the neighbor after the search on 11/18. Before they got the video, they had only Baby Dale's word on when she arrived.
IMHO, Baby or Papa or maybe even Momma Dale, could have periodically monitored the iPhone, and because the 4:26 call was from Eric, it was answered. Also, they must have had some idea of her routines; they would know (or assume?) that Michelle would be calling A soon to let him know where she was, so if the family was alerted earlier in the afternoon, they would have that message to reassure A that she would call him soon.
IMHO, answering the 4:26 call was to establish that Michelle was still in control of her phone after 4pm--to remove her from the scene, so to speak. Since he/they assumed LE would be involved immediately when Michelle was late to work, they assumed they had until 8 or so take care of evidence.
IMHO, this was premeditated and there was no, or very minimal noise from the condo.
IMHO, when the white truck/van was parked in front of the condo, the Hummer was put into the garage. That happened shortly after Michelle arrived and was done to remove the stickers and not leave it on the street for the neighbors to notice.
Hopefully this will be the last Independence Day Dale will be celebrating his freedom.
Praying for Michelle...
24 hours. So why did LE act so quickly in this case?
I confess I'm also thinking of the Sandra Lemire case. For some strange reason LE didn't jump on that one....that we know of, that is. Heck, it didn't even hit the media for a month.
Well, different cases but still....Sandra needed insulin. She's still missing, btw, far as I know anyway, and it seems just a couple months later there's no searches and nothing new in media for Sandra.
So why the jump on Michelle being missing? Tho I'm sure glad they did jump on it.
But I do think the bogus text was sent in order to put LE and the family off for a while.
And I don't think DaleJr even thought about the security camera. I bet he forgot about it or figured the tape would loop around and erase any footage of him by the time LE got involved, since it's more usual for LE to wait 24 to 36 hours in the case of an adult. Big slip-up, IMO. And it, along with other evidence LE has gathered, will hang him eventually.
All my opinion only
I think LE assumed this was a violent crime from the beginning because of Baby Dale's history and they were hoping to find her before he was able to end her life. Considering that he was part of a group that killed a man, picked up a chair and hit someone over the head with it, threatened to kill Michelle, and possibly paid his pal to kill his second wife I'd bet that 1/2 of the department knew who he was from the moment his name was mentioned. They knew his ego wouldn't let Michelle "get away" with telling the truth about him and they were trying to prevent his crimes.
I agree that the 4:26 textl was an attempt to buy time and to place Michelle away from the condo, trying to make it look like she still had control of her life at 4:26.
Thanks for the thoughts on the surveillance tape. I didn't realize that so much could be erased so quickly. I think you're right. Dale figured that by the time LE got involved it would be too late. He may have even had friends drive by to try to facilitate that. Maybe there are hours of tape showing Papa & Baby Dale driving around the block.
I still wonder if Michelle ever made it to Dale's condo. I am not convinced that she did. IMO, I think MP could have been 'carjacked' by someone in Dale's circle or by Dale himself.
There are so many unknowns in this case...the most important one being we don't know where Michelle is.
Are there still any searches going on for her? ( I haven't followed this case in a while).
How do you explain the video of the Hummer driving toward Baby Dale's condo at 3:18? In spite of LE denying that the surveillance camera caught the Hummer leaving without stickers, the arrival has been verified. Are you considering that someone else could have already abducted Michelle and was, by happenstance, driving by the condo?
We do not see Michelle driving the hummer into the condo...we see the hummer but we can not see the driver. IMO, it is possible that she had already been abducted and it was Dale Jr. or elder Dale or another accomplice driving the hummer into his complex. I do not believe this was a stranger abduction. But I believe the 'event' could have happened at the pick up of the kids.
I base this idea on a few things (clearly we only have a few things to go on, so I am speculating)
#1) We do not have any proof Michelle was driving the hummer into the complex.
#2) The video LE released of Michelle earlier in the day at the drive through IMO was the last known sighting of Michelle and IMO that is why they released it.
#3) The idea of a carjacking was brought into this case at the get go...I believe (IMO) that Dale Jr. concocted that tale...and as in most lies I believe there was some truth to it. I believe he attempted to stage a carjacking.
I know this isn't much to go on and I could very well be wrong...but I can say that in my opinion I am not sure she ever made it to the condo. The condo trip could have purely been for sticker removal/ clean up/ducks in a row for DSJr.
#1 LE told us she drove the Hummer in. I'm assuming they have better enhancement technology than I do; I wouldn't be able to tell by that surveillance.
#2 IIRC, the drive through tape was released because it showed what she was wearing.
#3 I don't remember Dale saying, or being reported as having said, anything about how she disappeared. Anybody got a link?
MOO. I surely could be wrong; wouldn't be the first time.
(BBM)Police released the video on Parker's 34th birthday to keep the case in the public eye. One of the 750 tips received so far led police to the video.
The video shows Parker going through a KFC drive through in Casselberry, Fla. three hours before she dropped off her 3-year-old twins at Smith Jr.'s home, the last place she was seen.
#3) If you google Michelle Parker carjacking you will find a number of articles about the family & LE believing, at first, Michelle was carjacked. Here is one of them. I have no proof that Dale Jr. inserted the carjacking idea into peoples (family/LE) minds...I am just suspicious that he did because it would take the focus off of him.
Somewhere back in the threads, it was uncovered she had a private sitter who lives in the Waterford Lakes area. She picked up the kids from her and then on to DSjr. So, I assume the last person that saw her was the sitter.
If she stopped anywhere in between the sitter's and DSjr's, it's not known or hasn't been released. jmo
I've heard this theory mentioned a couple times here. I've always tried to wrap my mind around it, but never gave it much credit. One piece of this I hesitate about would be the text from Michelle's phone to her boyfriend around 3:15 about the song on the radio that reminded her of him. We know the Hummer drove by Dale JR's neighbors by 3:18. Would you say the 3:15 text to boyfriend was made by Michelle or her abductor?
If there is any proof that Michelle was driving the hummer at 3:18?
As far as the pick up at the private sitter...I still believe a 'carjacking' of Michelle (or whatever the 'event' was that caused her to go missing) could have happened somewhere after the pick up of the twins. Any ideas if the sitter lived at a private home or an apartment complex?
So, with your theory, how did the kids get to DaleJr's? I mean, if I'm reading correctly, you think maybe a carjacking happened with the twins in the Hummer after Michelle picked them up but before she dropped the twins off at Dale's? IMO, I would think IF a carjacking happened it would have been after the twins were dropped off. Unless, of course, she was carjacked by someone who was an accomplice...And still, that's taking a chance that the twins could/would say something (iirc, they were questioned by a DCF worker) or, if they were asleep, they'd wake up and see something...
JMO, the text to the bf was sent by Michelle because she included hearts, etc. IIRC. What abductor would do that, but then later send the Waterford text and just that one word? It would have to have been someone who knew Michelle was dating the bf, imo....and knew that the text asking where she was came from a brother or friend and not a bf.
All JMO MOO
But I do feel Michelle made it to the condo because how else did the twins get there? Unless, of course, there was an accomplice.
I wish LE would release more info.
All jmo, of course
As far as the texts...if it is DSJr. texting...he would know not to send hearts and smilies on the text to her brother and if DSJr. sent the text to the bf...he would know what MP's text to the bf might look like, because he was a bf at one point and maybe he used to receive texts with hearts and smilies.
I realize, the theory that she never made it to the condo has some holes in it but I still find it to be a possibility.
I followed Michelle's case very closely in the beginning and then RL got in the way...so I have missed some details in this ongoing discussion. I apologize for that.
My opinion only follows.
I have less confidence in Dales emotional abilities than you do. I think (MOO) that he would be unable to NOT slip something into the text that would alert Michelle's boyfriend. New love creates a chemical connection that can be easily jarred and Baby Dale's nyah, nyah, nah, nyah, nyah would give him away. Her not returning his texts alerted him; so, silence itself was a communication to him that something outside of Michelle's emotional make up was controlling her.
I bet Dale is sitting around thinking how smart he is to have pulled off the perfect murder...no body, no physical evidence, no witnesses. He's probably thinking he's just about home free....Wow Dale...you are so good you killed the mother of your children because you didn't want to pay child support and you couldn't live with her being with a better man. You must feel proud. You finally followed through on something.....on your promise to end her life... She deserved it right? After all Dale you called her an escort....though that's probably how you spend your money...on all those cheap men and women you cheated on Michelle with...You were jealous and angry with all you "did for her and the kids" and she didn't appreciate it. So where did you hide her? Man up cowboy! Enough is enough! All JMO
It was bad enough Dale was boneheaded and typed "Waterford" or was that Dad slipping up? I also agree that Dale probably has about the same emotional capacity as a chicken. Speaking of chickens...what a coward Dale is! JMO
So when Dale lied to LE about Michelle going shopping he knew he needed to cover his trail. With the 4:26 "Waterford" text he knew had been sent...this would have helped confirm his side of the story had it not been for the pesky neighbor's camera and fact that she had already been shopping earlier in the day...but oh what's a few minor details to catch a snake in a lie?
Plus there are likely other people who know what happened or who participated in this event. That's a big risk to take to cover up for someone.
What is the penalty in Florida for accessory to a murder anyway?