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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatTheHey View Post
    Although 'stand by' might be a bit of a stretch.... is it possible to 'quietly grimace by, beneath nice Stepford Wife smile' ?? Lol
    Did you think he was involved early on?
    Shopping is a woman thing. It's a contact sport like football. Women enjoy the scrimmage, the noisy crowds, the danger of being trampled to death, and the ecstasy of the purchase.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatTheHey View Post
    Gawd - I hope I didn't come across as martyr-ish! (oo, poor us, we're little bit hurt out here..) Nah, we were just doing what needed to be done, what most of u guys would have done in the situation. Once u have known these three gorgeous girls (and know that the access being provided to savory relatives was getting more and more restricted by the day) it was not a hard brain switch to flip. Simply 'right, what do we do til they're safe?'. But, yes it is huge relief now. No more mustard-colored Albatrosses around our necks now (to wreck Colleridge). Just feel so much for the Dickies plus H, S & E - a long, long road ahead.

    Having acted all tough above, I will admit that I have had to get (shrink) help to make some sense of it all... Brain stuck on the horror, injustice, finality. Have become a bit hyper-vigilant etc. Anyhoo..

    And u know what? This place has been a bit like (slightly wacky) therapy! Thanks for everyone - ur all pretty wonderful
    I am so glad those girls had some normality around them in what would have been a very scary time - well done Brookfield mums



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nads View Post
    Not very soundly. He must have replaced the phone on the charger later.

    Also, the Dickies senior live about two hours away, and A's brother and sister in a different city too. If he was concerned enough to ring his father, he also would have rung A's phone too. There would be records of that.
    Have edited to say her friend in place instead of Dickies ...when I realised the Dickies lived on the coast. Forgot about the placing on the charger----that would be hard to explain. How will he explain the phone call ? Just trying to think it through. If I were a juror that one point could be the final nail needed to convince given that the evidence is supposedly all circumstantial.MOO


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    Quote Originally Posted by spratsmum View Post
    i agree with you Hawkins, I was expecting a big , indepth piece in the weekend editions, and was disappointed when it wasn't published. Perhaps they are waiting for something else to happen - e.g. another arrest, I don't know but I had expected it as well.
    Im hoping they dont, it would be nice for the families to be left alone until the hearing in July, im sure they all must be praying for peace and quiet. especially the Girls and the Dickies, im sure they dont need any more reminders of this tragedy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkins View Post
    I'm surprised that we haven't read of some other significant elements to this matter in the press this week. Then again the CM seems to be very timely with its reporting. I usually dislike the way that paper keeps a story on the boil with fluff and human interest contexts, but in this case I think they are doing a good job of acknowledging the huge public interest without getting too tabloid about it. I'd be interested in reading another Madonna King type piece now that there has been an arrest etc. She's pretty good at refelcting the general community feeling about these sort of issues IMO.

    Anyone want to make a bet that Madonna King is coming out with a new article?


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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatTheHey View Post
    Gawd - I hope I didn't come across as martyr-ish! (oo, poor us, we're little bit hurt out here..) Nah, we were just doing what needed to be done, what most of u guys would have done in the situation. Once u have known these three gorgeous girls (and know that the access being provided to savory relatives was getting more and more restricted by the day) it was not a hard brain switch to flip. Simply 'right, what do we do til they're safe?'. But, yes it is huge relief now. No more mustard-colored Albatrosses around our necks now (to wreck Colleridge). Just feel so much for the Dickies plus H, S & E - a long, long road ahead.
    Having acted all tough above, I will admit that I have had to get (shrink) help to make some sense of it all... Brain stuck on the horror, injustice, finality. Have become a bit hyper-vigilant etc. Anyhoo..

    And u know what? This place has been a bit like (slightly wacky) therapy! Thanks for everyone - ur all pretty wonderful




    I would like to say big thank you for taking the time out and helping when the people that were less fortunate than yourself, and in a difficult situation You are an angel.

    They will never forget you.

    There must have been fences that you jumped over, even when you knew you would tear your pants.
    What a sweetheart.
    Last edited by summer_breeze; 06-26-2012 at 06:03 AM. Reason: fix broken quote
    "We, your family, pledge to you that we will have these questions answered. We will bring you justice, because you deserve nothing less," she said.



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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatTheHey View Post
    Hi guys. I can put this one to bed. It was definitely not TM. It was a fellow Brookie mum like me who has kids his age - I spoke with them both at show. Like many of us, she has had to play a 'double agent' role for 8 weeks now, being polite, continuing with lifts for the girls, generally hovering around. Some asked, why, how can u stand to b NEAR him? Here is how - we realised that if we all back away, horrified, from that little blue house en mass - then the girls are left vulnerable day to day. So we plastered on our smiles and our best suburban manners and entered conversations, responded, cooperated etc. To keep contact, keep an eye, ears alert. For the girls, but mostly for Al.
    All v. relieved now, post-Friday. X
    Thanks WhatTheHey - as I said, I suspected that was the case at the show. You local mums have been wonderful from everything I've heard - the girls came first for you even though it meant you had to stomach dealing with GBC. It must have been so, so hard to have him round that school and around your own children - especially hard for those who were close to Allison. I have no doubt you are all very relieved. Hats off to you all x



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    Quote Originally Posted by Keentoknow View Post
    exercise

    LOL. Cheeky!
    Not the horizontal kind of exercise.

    Didn't the blog say the team were doing personal training.
    Maybe there were extra threesome personal training sessions.... JKS


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mothergoose View Post
    I think GBC was busy that night too but :-
    It could be a way of explaining away the phone call to police. He got up to do a wee and noticed Allison wasn't home. Says he called his dad to see if they'd talked to or seen Allison as they had a big fight and left the house.Assumed she was at the her best friends place but didn't call her because they had just had a fight and being the middle of the night her friends wouldn't be very happy with him.Went back to bed and slept soundly til morning.He could still say that he last saw her at 10 pm and that he's a sound sleeper couldn't he? If he didn't love her he would not sacrifice his beauty sleep to make any further inquiries in the middle of the night .That phone call has to be explained away somehow if he is going to remain pleading innocent, isn't it? IMO

    Can anyone else suggest how he will explain away the midnight phone call ,if he continues to plead innocence? I think a lot hangs on it in his corner. IMO


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayside View Post
    Did you think he was involved early on?
    Not early enough. I spent the first few days after Al missing thinking she'd stomped off somewhere. Then a couple more thinking of the random attacker scenario. Then it slowly started to dawn.... but even then u think- aw, c'mon, there must b some other explanation! He's Mr Suburban- Innocuous! So u go down a few other ( stupid, gullible,) paths for a while until you sit down one day with another Mum and u cry together and say... Oh no. This is the new reality - there is no other. Then, up, dust yourself off, and work out how to get something positive going for the girls out of this hell. Even before the bail hearing, u hang onto manslaughter, if only for their future sanity (i.e. it was maybe a terrible mistake?) BUT along comes info on dumb google searches, dumb phone calls, dumb insurance claims....
    Stupid, evil f$@k



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mothergoose View Post
    Can anyone else suggest how he will explain away the midnight phone call ,if he continues to plead innocence? I think a lot hangs on it in his corner. IMO
    I wouldnt make a suggestion if I could think of one as I wouldnt want to help his defence in any way.
    Shopping is a woman thing. It's a contact sport like football. Women enjoy the scrimmage, the noisy crowds, the danger of being trampled to death, and the ecstasy of the purchase.


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    Those poor girls - so glad the mums reached out to them WhattheHey you guys probably were so much more appreciated than you ever realised.

    The community makes such a difference and can make a intolerable situation bearable. I know when I was a kid and have had difficulties at home (nothing abusive just parents being bossy and controlling like they should be) my school friends were my haven and it was nice to step away and be normal at school. Or visit a friends house where the rules were different.

    Now that the girls are with the dickies I feel like a weight has been lifted off my chest and I don't even know the families so it is really unfair for me to say stuff like that - it is just pure gut feeling. The BC parents clearly have some kind of suspicion hanging over them as I don't think they would surrender custody without a serious fight. They would have held on to those girls as the trophies of their son. I reckon this is a very telling sign. Kids are not removed from their residence lightly and they probably have spent more time with their Dad's grandparents given the closer proximity to their Brookfield home than they have spent at the Dickies place on the coast.

    Also what I think removing the childrendoes is frees up the BC family to talk ,plot and plan. I can see the police monitoring and surveiling, conversations, trips they make and mail and anything that seems out of place.

    Just on addressing the crime scene at Kholo bridge. There are very HIGH statistics that say that the perpertrator always returns to the crime scene. So if the body had been hidden and was not being found then it is highly likely that GBC could have returned to the scene to move it.Apparently the scene becomes a fixation and many go back to check if its been disturbed or if everything is ok. My gosh if the police have someone doing this sort of activity its instant goneski. I think from memory this happend when the Abrahams family visited Kiesha's grave site many months after her missing presumed dead status.
    IMHO MOO MOO MOO



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mothergoose View Post
    I think GBC was busy that night too but :-
    It could be a way of explaining away the phone call to police. He got up to do a wee and noticed Allison wasn't home. Says he called his dad to see if they'd talked to or seen Allison as they had a big fight and left the house.Assumed she was at the her best friends place but didn't call her because they had just had a fight and being the middle of the night her friends wouldn't be very happy with him.Went back to bed and slept soundly til morning.He could still say that he last saw her at 10 pm and that he's a sound sleeper couldn't he? If he didn't love her he would not sacrifice his beauty sleep to make any further inquiries in the middle of the night .That phone call has to be explained away somehow if he is going to remain pleading innocent, isn't it? IMO
    Yes I agree...even more so after remembering this from a report...

    The Courier-Mail understands a frantic Mr Baden-Clay rang and sent text messages to several people asking if they'd heard from his wife after she failed to return home on Thursday night. Eventually, he went to bed alone.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/alli...-1226341287303


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thinking View Post
    I'm way behind here so this may have been addressed already, but Indromum, given your valued opinion above, is the following feasible in that setting:

    -- two strong males carrying body

    -- two males with scouting experience ingrained from young age

    -- two males with possible (probable) knowledge of that area given vicinity to scout camp, selling properties in area but also possible premeditation

    -- one or both with torches to assist

    -- perhaps causing slight injuries, scratches etc from scrub, vines etc, grazes to elbows if falling etc

    Is this feasible to you from what you saw, or still not really possible in your view?
    Yes it is feasible...I wake in the night thinking this is what happened; but when I am at the bridge, it looks so tricky to negotiate this area ( and I am reasonably fit - I walk an hour every day with puppies ). I am in tears here on holiday at the thought of her being tossed over the bridge....too sad.


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    Just curious, how would LE know if a phone is on or off a charger??? Never heard that until this case, must be different kind of phones than what we have here. TIA


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