NO BAIL! Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 -#29

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Currently, we are considering Allison's husband to be a suspected person of interest in this case. There is a possible second party involved per MSM and it is okay to discuss that aspect, but please refrain from accusing anyone of murder at this juncture. Speculating is one thing, accusing is another.


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Gerard Baden-Clay has lost 13 friends on Facebook, including Premier Campbell newman, since being arrested for murder of wife Allison

June 28, 2012 12:00AM

GERARD Baden-Clay has lost 13 friends on his Facebook account since being put behind bars, including Premier Campbell Newman.
However, he still has 372 Facebook friends, including federal Liberal MPs Jane Prentice and Julie Bishop.

A spokeswoman for Mr Newman said the Premier's old Facebook profile, which has not been used since the election campaign ended, was shut down a couple of weeks ago.

"The closure of the profile means Mr Newman no longer has 'Facebook friends'," she said in a statement.

"Instead Mr Newman has a Facebook page, which anyone can like, with requests not requiring approval."

Prisoners cannot access the internet, but many with Facebook accounts get their family or friends to update their profiles.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-of-wife-allison/story-e6freoof-1226410504650
 
Gerard Baden-Clay has lost 13 friends on Facebook, including Premier Campbell newman, since being arrested for murder of wife Allison

June 28, 2012 12:00AM

GERARD Baden-Clay has lost 13 friends on his Facebook account since being put behind bars, including Premier Campbell Newman.
However, he still has 372 Facebook friends, including federal Liberal MPs Jane Prentice and Julie Bishop.

A spokeswoman for Mr Newman said the Premier's old Facebook profile, which has not been used since the election campaign ended, was shut down a couple of weeks ago.

"The closure of the profile means Mr Newman no longer has 'Facebook friends'," she said in a statement.

"Instead Mr Newman has a Facebook page, which anyone can like, with requests not requiring approval."

Prisoners cannot access the internet, but many with Facebook accounts get their family or friends to update their profiles.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-of-wife-allison/story-e6freoof-1226410504650

LUCKY NUMBER 13! :woohoo:
 
Gerard Baden-Clay has lost 13 friends on Facebook, including Premier Campbell newman, since being arrested for murder of wife Allison

June 28, 2012 12:00AM

GERARD Baden-Clay has lost 13 friends on his Facebook account since being put behind bars, including Premier Campbell Newman.
However, he still has 372 Facebook friends, including federal Liberal MPs Jane Prentice and Julie Bishop.

A spokeswoman for Mr Newman said the Premier's old Facebook profile, which has not been used since the election campaign ended, was shut down a couple of weeks ago.

"The closure of the profile means Mr Newman no longer has 'Facebook friends'," she said in a statement.

"Instead Mr Newman has a Facebook page, which anyone can like, with requests not requiring approval."

Prisoners cannot access the internet, but many with Facebook accounts get their family or friends to update their profiles.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-of-wife-allison/story-e6freoof-1226410504650

Must be a slow news day at the CM.......
 
Does anyone know for sure what was claimed by the defence EXACTLY?

June 22, 2012


Mr Davis said the marks on his client’s torso were related to a “caterpillar incident” and he had witness statements attesting to that.

Mr Davis said the only external injury noted in the report was a chip to the bottom left eye tooth.

Mr Davis used the lack of any other apparent injuries to question the allegation that investigators had found Mrs Baden-Clay’s blood in the boot of her husband’s car.

"There is no suggestion of any cuts, any wounds, from which she could bleed," he said, in reference to a police assertion that there was a luminol (a chemical which can react to show the presence of blood, among other fluids) reaction found in the car.

Mr Davis also said there was no supporting evidence submitted to the court that the luminol reaction was caused by the presence of blood


In applying for bail, Mr Davis cited his client’s strong ties to the business community as well as to the community where he lived as evidence Mr Baden-Clay would not flee the state before his trial was to begin.

He said despite “intense” media coverage of the case in the lead up to being charged by police, Mr Baden-Clay had not left the country.

Mr Davis had told the court Mr Baden-Clay had no valid passports and could provide a $500,000 surety

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...denied-bail-20120622-20s73.html#ixzz1yzvAID1X
 
Was there an earthquake in the previous thread and everybody took off??
 
Pardon me :eek: but I don't fully grasp everything in the following CM report:


Baden-Clay is expected to be given protection status, which is only granted if they are assessed as "at risk of harm within the general prison population", have an intellectual disability or if charges relate to "serious offences". Well, he certainly qualifies here IMO! :giggle:

Upon entry, prisoners are issued with prison uniform - a green T-shirt, shorts, tracksuit pants, jumper and joggers.

  • Baden-Clay is not required to work in prison, but will be encouraged to participate "in some type of meaningful activity", such as cleaning or kitchen duties, horticulture work or maintenance. Nothing entirely NEW to him here given the morning of Allison's disappearance & when she went away to celebrate her 40th Birthday!
  • "If a remand prisoner chooses not to work, they must be paid an unemployment allowance - this is $1.30 a week. In addition, a hygiene allowance of $9.55 is payable per week," a QCS spokesman said. Here I'm confused ... forgive me guys ... but are they PAID to be dirty (i.e. not waste water etc.) ~ or must they PAY out of their own pockets (or borrowed funds / church donations or whatever) to be dirty? :what: Because even the MAX $8.45 won't cover the 'dirt'.
  • "If employed, they are paid (depending on the job) from $2.80 to $8.45 per week."

    :cowcouch:
 
From the new CM article.

"If a remand prisoner chooses not to work, they must be paid an unemployment allowance - this is $1.30 a week. In addition, a hygiene allowance of $9.55 is payable per week," a QCS spokesman said.

"If employed, they are paid (depending on the job) from $2.80 to $8.45 per week."

They pay them to keep clean or clean up? Or does the prisoner pay them?

Also, says they don't have internet access!
 
That last CM article again implies no visits by mother .... WHY?!! I've said this before, but I find this very strange. Is she repulsed? Is she about to break? She was obviously fine the day of the bomb affected Bail Hearing as both parents were seen leaving the Kenmore home that afternoon and again the next morning. Why hasn't she been to the remand centre? I can't understand this.
 
Pardon me :eek: but I don't fully grasp everything in the following CM report:


Baden-Clay is expected to be given protection status, which is only granted if they are assessed as "at risk of harm within the general prison population", have an intellectual disability or if charges relate to "serious offences". Well, he certainly qualifies here IMO! :giggle:

Upon entry, prisoners are issued with prison uniform - a green T-shirt, shorts, tracksuit pants, jumper and joggers.

  • Baden-Clay is not required to work in prison, but will be encouraged to participate "in some type of meaningful activity", such as cleaning or kitchen duties, horticulture work or maintenance. Nothing entirely NEW to him here given the morning of Allison's disappearance & when she went away to celebrate her 40th Birthday!
  • "If a remand prisoner chooses not to work, they must be paid an unemployment allowance - this is $1.30 a week. In addition, a hygiene allowance of $9.55 is payable per week," a QCS spokesman said. Here I'm confused ... forgive me guys ... but are they PAID to be dirty (i.e. not waste water etc.) ~ or must they PAY out of their own pockets (or borrowed funds / church donations or whatever) to be dirty? :what: Because even the MAX $8.45 won't cover the 'dirt'.
  • "If employed, they are paid (depending on the job) from $2.80 to $8.45 per week."

    :cowcouch:

I interpret that allowance as being for buying toothpaste, soap, shampoo, etc from the prison store.
 
A true caterpillar story...My son had an allergic reaction after standing under a eucalypt tree(in his school uniform) where hairy caterpillars were shedding their 'hairs' recently. He had huge red lumps all over his stomach and had to have antihistamines. The itching was intense. Medical advice was to place sticky tape over the affected areas to pull out the spines that pierce the skin then to have a cool shower to reduce swelling. While it sounds a bit way out- and everyone has had a laugh about it-caterpillars can cause red itchy rashes.
 
That last CM article again implies no visits by mother .... WHY?!! I've said this before, but I find this very strange. Is she repulsed? Is she about to break? She was obviously fin the day of the bomb affected Bail Hearing as both parents were seen leaving the Kenmore home that afternoon and again the next morning. Why hasn't she been to the remand centre? I can't understand this.

Maybe she has a criminal record and is not permitted to visit GBC. :what:
 
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