well, if she is with a homeless encampment type situation. her parents need to find her and force her to leave so she doesn't become a victim of human trafficking. they can work out their differences later, but she's not safe on the streets.
i hope she is with an unknown friend and not on the streets
Ok back from searching didn't see anyone handing out flyers or searching for her. I was able to start on the north side of the river from Howe to watt no sign of her or any camps tomorrow will search north side from howe down past arden. Someone just texted me they confirmed yesterdays sighting and word is she is living with homeless along the river.
Hopefully they have the help from those in the area that work with the homeless and also mental health advocates.
I'm glad to hear the sighting is confirmed and at least some guidance that the theory/theories about where she is may be correct. In that area it seems like there are a lot more individual 'camps' or very small groups of people as opposed to the larger homeless camps/areas. Also seems to be where we run into people (homeless) who aren't very threatening and have been nice if they're around. We tend to 'beach it' in our small boat at several spots along there, and almost always there's a makeshift tent or two nearby, mostly lived in by people who either want some food or to be left alone. We've shared food quite a few times and they've always been grateful and friendly. I totally agree it's not a GOOD environment for her and she's hugely at risk, but I do hope she's with people like that. Depending on who she's with and what they've heard or what she's told them, they might be trying to help 'protect' her from searchers.
(as before, total speculation other than the stuff handyman916 has confirmed)
OK....the "LIKE OUR PROGRESS" thingy freaked me out a little. Strange....
For what it's worth, I HOPE this is resolved long before then, but if that's where she is, that part of the river's a pretty big hot spot all the way through at least mid August. It's been cooler than normal this year (probably why Linnea had a sweatshirt) but it's hot again now and getting busy again. The 3rd weekend in August is a big thing, the "Potluck on the River" which is sort of this official-but-not-offically-hosted party including 3 days of food, parades, contests, bands, potluck obviously, etc. As a homeless person, especially pretty newly homeless and relatively clean, you could easily blend in and get food, shower, maybe even lodging. Many of the homeless in the area who don't want to be seen take off, but I've also met some of them who are a little bolder and jump onto the boats tied together.
I've seen nothing to suggest she's much of a "party girl," but what a good place to find food, a shower, maybe lodging, maybe new clothes...
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Sorry to butt in here, but just had that observation and wanted to share.
Seems to me her family isn't this horrible cult everyone is making them out to be. She is an adult, yes. But their daughter. Who had a suicide note and appeared to be in distress. Doctors agreed and tried to get her on meds. The police commend their efforts.
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Thanks for the link, still digesting what it does and does not say.
I don't think this family has realized these things are not black and white. People do function with diagnoses of OCD and anxiety (if that's what conditions she has) although they may have had times they spun out of control. I worked with a guy who had a meltdown once (it wasn't overnight by any means), but he came back to work and was fine. Maybe Linnea needs medication and maybe she doesn't. If she does, A get a sense the whole thing wasn't handled very well in the beginning.Craig Lomax is heartsick over his daughter's disappearance. But he doesn't think the struggle will end when she is found, and he hopes this case can expose flaws in a system he feels failed his family.
"I don't totally disagree with the laws, but there needs to be some kind of system for (cases like this)," he said. "It missed Linnea on the first round."
I'm not convinced by the article that she qualifies for a 5150 or did when they started hunting her. In my experience the rules about these things make it easy enough and I feel people just don't get how serious it is to take away a person's right. You simply cannot make the net so big you can jump in any time you personally want to deem it necessary.
Is there any sign of drug abuse here?
Also, just wanted to say I am not trying to talk down to anyone. After reading my previous posts it seemed to come off that way. I promise you, it isn't my intent. I'm aware that different theroies and discussion of ideas lead to answers.
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I hear what your saying!
See to me it sounds like drugs are the center of this the weight loss etc etc.
anxiety , And maybe the parents didnt want to say rehab so they say she had a slight breakdown...
So she did the rehab but now wanted some drugs so she runs off to find them!
Maybe to help yourself. It doesn't say it is a website for how to commit suicide. But I can see if I was really depressed, I might look to see if others felt like I did and if anyone said how they helped themselves. I doubt she was going to commit suicide via ibuprofen, but I guess it's possible. There could be other info on such pages like that, like what if you took too much of something?
None of this means the parents aren't well meaning, but maybe they never had this kind of thing to deal with before and came in too upset and heavy handed. People will often turn away when they think you are being unreasonable and trying to force your will instead of listening to what they want and need.
I think it's also possible that whatever caused her weight loss led to further anxiety, a viscous cycle - anxiety or a sleep disorder/insomnia can make one almost completely lose their appetite. I've had that happen a couple of times in my life and once because I had a virus that hung around for over a month. I'm not sure they would know though if she had gradually lost some pounds or the amount she weighed pre and post was off.
Is it possible that perhaps she is questioning her sexuality? Given some of the family dynamics, it is possible that an issue such as that might be a difficult one. The only reason I mention it is because she might reach out to others who have had similar experiences and would likely help her with food, shelter, acceptance, "counseling," etc.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. ~ Aristotle
The difference between fiction and reality? Fiction has to make sense.
It's also possible she obtained a bike.
There is no way that she'd be in want of money-- if she wanted some, she'd get enough to do whatever she needed to do. That's mo. (I know if a young woman like herself approached me and said she needed ten bucks to get home, I'd probably give her twenty-- just sayin')
Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/07/04/460...#storylink=cpyFrom the article: The climax came a few weeks ago, when Linnea's worried parents showed up at her dorm room to find her in what Craig Lomax described as a "terrible, terrible state" – literally pulling out her hair, a bottle of ibuprofen open, a suicide-related website on her computer screen.
Her parents and a nurse persuaded her to admit herself to a mental health facility, but she remained steadfast that she did not have a problem and did not need all the medications they were recommending, her father said.
Okay, from the horse's mouth, so to speak-- Mom and Dad persuaded her to go in for treatment, but she did not, in the end, agree with the assessment-- anxiety and OCD? That sounds like the condition of every A student I know!!
It's odd to me that they admit she was well enough to call the shots regarding her treatment, but now that she's been through it, they are dissatisfied?
Also, I want to say that if she had a substance abuse problem (which they didn't cite) she would be the cleanest the day she took off, which means to me, she made a clear choice. moo
I didn't feel you were talking down to anyone at all. Honestly I'm uncomfortable having questionable thoughts about the motives and even more uncomfortable posting about them but like you said, different theories all come into play. And when I had enough things in a row make me think "woah back up!" in some ways I wanted to see if I was over-reacting or if others felt that way too. I always try to think the best about people and hope I haven't come off sounding like I'm 'bashing' the family or their search site. The whole idea of the search getting really overbearing (in my opinion) well... I guess I am coming down on that.
Oh, and it couldn't be better that it's the Fourth-- there will be a lot of eyes on the waterways. If she's down there she might get a message to her folks... (I wish she would make a statement so people could relax about her well being).
Btw, Happy 4th my WS friends!