My thoughts on everything, at this point, are pretty up in the air. At first, I had no doubt her mental illness was more severe than they were putting out (anxiety and OCD). It was obvious she had some sort of eating disorder, whether it was only a temporary issue or ongoing issue, but they never directly indicated that she even had an eating disorder. I also didn't believe she would/could stay at an inpatient mental facility for 10 days for anxiety and OCD, even the most extreme form. Outpatient care/counseling, yes, but 10 days inside a mental facility, no. I've always suspected there were much deeper issues... I just had a strange feeling about the entire thing. How does a girl in the picture perfect like HER PARENTS are portraying, go from that to where she's at now? It just doesn't make sense.
And obviously, the parents are very religious... the entire group is very religious, and the idea that someone is not religious does not cross their mind. I've never been asked if I wanted to pray, it was just assumed I did. They have bible versus printed out on computer paper and hung on the walls. That sort of put it over the top for me. I don't know.
Another thing I felt was a bit off... everyday they've been starting at 5am because that's "when she's most active." Well yesterday, out of the blue, they just decided not to start until 6am. I guess it's not a huge deal, but I just felt that was weird because just one day before they said she could have been taken to Oakland for human trafficking, so it didn't seem like the best day to lose an hour, and 2) I don't think I'd want to lose an hour, no matter what, if it was my daughter.
Lastly, they seem adament in finding her themselves. When I've gone out, it's always been told that if we see her, we are to call the tip line, and even once, I was told to call a specific family members' phone directly. That was strange to me.
I think we need to summon some of our WS legal experts here to ask a few questions. Oh, where are you!
Parlor ... thank you for coming here and filling us in.
On one hand the family talks about human trafficking, swat teams...etc. Then you go to her missing page and are asked to write 100 words as to why you are helping in the search for LL. It is all so strange.
Did you know the family before all this took place? Thanks for all you are doing to help Linnea.
Cal Pen Code § 646.9. Stalking. (2008)
(a) Any person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows or willfully and maliciously harasses another person and who makes a credible threat with the intent to place that person in reasonable fear for his or her safety, or the safety of his or her immediate family is guilty of the crime of stalking, punishable by imprisonment in a county jail for not more than one year, or by a fine of not more than one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both that fine and imprisonment, or by imprisonment in the state prison.
I think they better tone it down-- this campaign to discredit their daughter's ability to make decisions for herself has NOT been supported by the law in her vicinity. (imo, El Dorado County should step carefully away from this mess.)
eta: From the same link-- (applicable because THEY HAVE received word of her legal well being, but continue to send teams out to hunt her down which makes it a credible threat in my book)
(g) For the purposes of this section, "credible threat" means a verbal or written threat, including that performed through the use of an electronic communication device, or a threat implied by a pattern of conduct or a combination of verbal, written, or electronically communicated statements and conduct, made with the intent to place the person that is the target of the threat in reasonable fear for his or her safety or the safety of his or her family, and made with the apparent ability to carry out the threat so as to cause the person who is the target of the threat to reasonably fear for his or her safety or the safety of his or her family. It is not necessary to prove that the defendant had the intent to actually carry out the threat. The present incarceration of a person making the threat shall not be a bar to prosecution under this section. Constitutionally protected activity is not included within the meaning of "credible threat."
From personal experience, I know that law enforcement can't legally do anything to help a family when a person that suffers severe mental illness "runs away" or stops taking medication. The only time that they will become involved is if the person is threatening harm to themselves or others and danger is imminent. Otherwise, the law says that an adult can chose to live how they want. It is very difficult to watch someone that you care about starve themselves nearly to death or pull their own hair out at the root and be told that if they refuse medical treatment, there is nothing that anyone can do to help them because they aren't a danger to themselves or others. This is just my opinion, but knowing the mental health situation in this country, there is no way that they hospitalized a patient for 10 days without there being symptoms of a very severe mental health issue.
I am rather appalled at the continued use of Sac Metro Fire Station #106 to stage searches for a status "voluntarily missing" adult. I will lodge my concerns formally, as I am a tax payer in that district.
I think, if they choose to persist, they better back off the civic outlets and stay in their religious community only. Arcade Baptist is a huge campus very near by that they used for the Sacramento Vigil-- they should go there, imo.
LE should help her find a women's shelter of some kind where she will be protected, and where someone unbiased can help figure out what's going on, IMO.
The more self-aware I become, the less sense any of this makes
Rule-of-Three (click to read)
Three-No Cases (click to read)]
Red Flags When Spouse Goes Missing (click to read)
Distancing (click to read)
I cannot seem to pull up the helpfindlinnea website anymore after typing the direct address you can still find on the posters posted to Facebook. Has anyone else tried today?
As for a women's shelter, I don't know if she will reach out for fear of being called into the police and in turn found by her parents.
Last edited by AlwaysHope26; 07-06-2012 at 12:57 PM. Reason: added content
Did you know Linnea is the name of a flower known as the twin flower? (learn something new everyday. ) They're pretty little things, befitting...
snipped from link:
"Linnaea is one of the few kinds of plants or animals to be named after Carl Linnaeus, who knew it well from his explorations of Lapland in northern Sweden in 1732."
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linnaea"]Linnaea - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
Last edited by fabvab; 07-06-2012 at 01:18 PM. Reason: clarification
As to the two new friends just added to Linnea's Facebook account: These two people may have just recently accepted an old friend request from Linnea.
As of this morning, the last CONFIRMED sighting (they checked security camera footage) of her was Tuesday morning, 5:05 a.m. near Howe Ave. and Fair Oaks. Which was when she was sleeping in the vehicle and the security guard spoke with them.
Update: they are "almost positive" she is in the Sacramento region, and not in Oakland. They have had numerous reported sightings of her near Howe Ave., but none have been confirmed yet. They are having volunteers use vehicles and bikes to search the area. They are no longer focusing on lightrail stations, and what I take from that is that they probably believe she is with a person(s) with a vehicle (but that is not confirmed).
To piggyback on your post, Daggfish, can anyone say for certain she IS in Sacramento? Can anyone say for certain she is well and with safe people?
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Parlor, was/is there a college roommate who is a part of the family/church search effort? A recent comment on the FaceBook page eluded to her being "discovered" by a biblestudy group who alerted her parents. Not one mention yet of a rommate or dorm neighboor or designated hall monitor.
Here's a quick wiki quote about who can call that shot:
...allows a qualified officer or clinician to involuntarily confine a person deemed to have a mental disorder that makes them a danger to him or her self, and/or others and/or gravely disabled. A qualified officer, which includes any California peace officer or paramedic, as well as any specifically designated county clinician, can request the confinement after signing a written declaration.