I dont think she should be blamed per se-I think it is time for Nancy to take a good long look in the mirror. JMVHO.
Justice for Travis
Sometimes the first step towards forgiveness is understanding that the other person is a complete idiot.
Here is the segment I watched... I tuned in when NG said she was on shot #9.
At first I thought she was DRINKING them on air!!! Then I realized what she was doing. What a precious baby he was! Matt Z stated that the dad reported the mother had been drinking ALL WEEKEND!!!
Sad story all around!
not a fan of NG at all!!! I think she is all about "shock news" and she doesn't care who she disrespects in that process.
It bothers me to no end that she always gives pet names to suspects and even sometimes victims. Recently there was a story about a landlord who found a deceased infant in a freezer. NG started calling the story "freezerbaby" .. extremely tacky and extremely disrespectful.
As for this story.. it is such a sad, sad story. The Mother didn't mean to kill her baby.. Baby probably woke up .. she tried to console baby and passed out ... the only reason so many people want to hate on her is because she was drunk. Please don't misunderstand me, I think what she did was a very bad decision... and clearly that guilt was way to much for her to live with...
Just the fact that she burned herself to death ... can u imagine how painful that must have been ... she had many options that would have been less painful...but she chose to conflict that much pain... that is some strong guilt... I hope she rests in peace
oh and Hello my name is Jenny and I am brand new here ... hope you don't mind that I just jumped in with my own 2 cents lol ... i tend to do that alot ... feel free to ignore me lol
Hello JFA - Jenny - and welcome to WS.
Thanks Jenny and WELCOME!!!!!!!!!
I agree with you completely.
Thanx for the Welcome wfgodot & believe09
If we are going to blame NG than we also have to point fingers at society and social media. Sometimes I wonder why is it that lately it seems more children are coming up missing or dead... but, maybe it's always been there, we were just shielded by it all.. nowadays the internet has become more of an instant news source with the availability for outsiders to "post" their opinions (kind of like mine right now lol) negative or bad. For some reason people feel safe to post the most mean hearted things on the internet. People have lost all human empathy or just plain respect for others because of the internet.
IMO the problem with society these days is that they are media minions and seem to think that if they read it on the internet than it must be true. I am most guilty of searching for as much information as I can on certain "hot topics" ..I was and still am always baffled by how much information a person can find on a high profile criminal trial .. and I always walk away feeling guilty.. like I am nosy and just invaded someone's privacy... privacy on the internet .. hmmm..
anyways ... thanks for letting me ramble .. probably makes no sense lol
Woe to those who would feast upon human sorrow.
I guess if I could see this as an accident, I would agree.
What this "mom" did was murder IMO.
Sorry, but I have a hard time sympathizing with that.
I saw the "vodka mom" show and I agreed with NG.
The mom was neglectful and single handedly caused her baby's death.
I understand alcoholism (much too well). I lived my childhood in a home with an alcoholic.
There is no excuse to put your children at risk. If you can't help yourself, at least get help for your children.
Anything is better than dead.
I don't see it as bullying.
It's not like this mom was an innocent person who NG decided to wage war upon.
NG was covering a news story.
That's her job.
She didn't make the mom drink the vodka. She didn't place the baby on the sofa with the mom.
Mom did all of that herself.
Instead of placing blame on others, we need to get back to personal accountability. I feel that's getting lost in our world.
The death of that baby and the suicide was by no one's actions but the mother's.
I agree with you, she was negligent to the nth degree. But as to whether or not this was an accident, to me (read: imo) it is an accident (brought on by an act of negligence) -- she didn't deliberately say to herself, "Tonight, I shall roll over on my child until he is dead."
I am not advocating drinking while you are pregnant, drinking while sleeping with a baby, child abuse in any way, shape or form. (Just wanted to be clear).
I'm sure she couldn't live with herself for what she'd done. It is sad, on so many levels.
(Again, I am not saying NG is solely responsible for this woman's suicide -- just that her comments could have been what pushed her over the edge. Obviously, she probably wasn't thinking rationally to have killed herself.)
End of social commentary.
I don't agree with what this mother did, neither in caring for her child, or her suicide. However, I also don't agree with how NG uses her "power" on the airwaves.
The others could well have been guilt, sorrow, mental illness, self-hatred, and the list goes on and on.
All I know is, if it were me, and I knew that someone had killed themselves after I ripped them up one side and down the other (regardless of whether it was deserved [insert the definition of "grace" here] I would feel horrible, for the simple fact that MY words, MY actions, could have played a part in this.
I am also filled with sorrow for that baby, who never got a chance to live.
I see both sides.
NG maybe should show a little more tact, and Lord knows i can't stand to listen to her anymore,but as jjenny said, if the accusations were true, then NG technically didn't do anything wrong.
In all honesty, I think that if she didn't want to hear NG say mean things about her, she should have turned off the tv and stayed off the net. She did something incredibly neglectful and dangerous and killed her own child as a result. That is going to bring just as much derision from acquaintances and friends as from TV "celebrities". I'd be more inclined to say that she killed herself because alcohol is a depressant and even without it, she had a reason to be depressed. Sometimes depressed people kill themselves, even if no one calls them names.
P.S. On a more personal note, I think NG is the biggest bully and bull-poop artist out there, generally speaking.
JMO. Unless there's a link, I can't prove it.
How do we know if this woman even saw NG's show? Why are we assuming that she burned herself to death because of something NG said?
I think the fact that she had two DUI's that month, and also ignored her husbands warning about sleeping on the couch with the baby, right before she passed out and killed the child, is much more of a trigger than anything NG said.
NG drives me nuts at times as well. But if she did not rant and go all hysterical, her show would have been cancelled a long time ago. She does it on purpose, so she can continue to stay on the air, and talk about missing kids and murdered wives.
Her 'nasty' attitude towards her guests is just an act. I know someone who used to intern for her, and she said that NG was very good friends with those people, and just pretended to berate them and be rude, just for the drama of it. if they do not create that kind of dramatic effect, then they would have no ratings. And with low ratings, they would be cancelled.
“Every day that they don’t find something is good for me.“ Billie Dunn
I deleted my post because I didnt realize that she wasnt a guest. FWIW, the media link indicates that the baby was 3 weeks old in the headline and 3 days old in the article...which is confusing.
I am still wondering about dad and why he simply warned her instead of preventing little man from being taken to the couch. He was there too, watching his wife party, am I correct?
The people that know she is going to be rude to them are her regular panel guests. The defense attorneys etc. It is part of the shtick.
But i don't think she is that rude to her guests that are on because of recent crimes. Many people here are saying they stopped watching years ago, and then begin criticizing how she does the show. Is that fair?
“Every day that they don’t find something is good for me.“ Billie Dunn
I don't believe for a second that NG is acting when she is being rude. It comes very naturally to her. And why would that increase rating? I for one don't want to watch it because of her behavior.
Just my opinion