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    NY - Michael Kelly, age 12, murdered in Queens, 1959

    Am needing more information on this case. Michael Kelly aged 12 was abducted on 14 FEBRUARY 1959 on Ditmars. His body was found 10 weeks later in College Point. His murder remains unsolved. Astoria, Queens, New York area.
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    I came across another forum where they were discussing this case. It's not a crime forum. Not sure if I am allowed to post a link and do not want to violate any rules.

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    Ok - Just a few questions. What neighbourhood would have been considered the Ditmars in 1959. What would have been considered the community of College Point in 1959. What would have been the proximity to Hell Gate Bridge to College Point. Were any of these areas construction sites at the time. Was there a well in the vicinity. In the late 40s through the 60s would Jamaica Queens be considered within close vicinity to the Ditmars or College Point or The Hell Gate Bridge.
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    When One Member Is In Pain,
    The Others Cannot Rest.
    If You Do Not Care About The Pain Of Others,
    You Do Not Deserve To Be Called A Human Being.~


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    To be honest, I am having a really hard time finding any information at all on this boy's murder. Strange!

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    The ditmars

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ditmars,_Queens

    Link to website making reference to Kelly's murder
    http://www.astorians.com/community/i...p?topic=8347.0

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    Maybe the story would have been covered as the Astorian website suggests by the American Journal newspaper which folded many years ago. There's paper copies held in a museum which can be viewed but not online unfortunately.

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    Ah I am needing to find a cause of death for this boy.
    ~Human Beings Are All Members Of One Body.
    They Are Created From The Same Essence.
    When One Member Is In Pain,
    The Others Cannot Rest.
    If You Do Not Care About The Pain Of Others,
    You Do Not Deserve To Be Called A Human Being.~


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    If a young person was found in a well or construction site in say late 1940s anytime in 1950s or late as 1960s - rough weather conditions. In such a way as to where if a person were to fall - they could not escape unassisted. Would this be classified as a homicide - or could it possibly have been classified as an accident. Not regarding this case - just Astoria cases regarding young persons in general. I need to know protocols regarding the 50s. Not what is done now. Any help so greatly appreciated.
    ~Human Beings Are All Members Of One Body.
    They Are Created From The Same Essence.
    When One Member Is In Pain,
    The Others Cannot Rest.
    If You Do Not Care About The Pain Of Others,
    You Do Not Deserve To Be Called A Human Being.~


    A Quote From 13th Century Famous Persian Poet Saadi Shirazi

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    Contact these folk, explain what you need and I'm sure they will either tell you or pass you to somebody who knows. Somebody will have knowledge of wells/drainage and construction. Don't know if they'll know about the legal side but you have to start somewhere. Good luck.

    http://forgotten-ny.com/2009/07/life...s-main-street/

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    Thank you for your help. I really am not intent on being so vague. When I was very young a person told me about something that happened when they themself was possibly quite young. As he started out - it sounded like kids playing. But it ended up he not knowing the fate of his playmate and either running away from the place - or just simply walking home. Never summoning help for the playmate or whoever this person was. It was a boy or teenager possibly.

    I can gather some details of where this may have occurred by knowing the general area the person who told me of the occurrence lived .

    It is quite possible the boy survived the incident with injuries.

    I was not yet born when the incident occurred - by decades - as I am no longer a child I try to now understand what was told to me. I want to know if the person is OK. Or if a family is looking for answers - or possibly more.
    ~Human Beings Are All Members Of One Body.
    They Are Created From The Same Essence.
    When One Member Is In Pain,
    The Others Cannot Rest.
    If You Do Not Care About The Pain Of Others,
    You Do Not Deserve To Be Called A Human Being.~


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    Not sure if this helps, spend some time on here, it might be listed.

    http://newyorkstatemissingpersons.ning.com/

    and then here

    http://newyorkstatemissingpersons.ni...-missing-cases
    Last edited by Robin Hood; 07-16-2012 at 08:56 AM.

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    what did the candy store owner have to say????? Michael was last scene there--unless I read incorrectly----was he allowed to walk home in the dark by himself? Or was he an independent kid and would do so anyway---did he have to pass a bar on his route home or a sktchy bus stop or alley way?????
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    ANd iirc from I know of College Point there is alot of industrial like places there---there is now a BJ's Walbaums, large shopping area----and I think the NYT printing plant is there
    The greatest trick the Devil ever played was convincing the world he didn't exist.

    Three candles that illume every darkness: truth, nature, knowledge.


    "There, isn't this a beautiful piece of cloth!", exclaimed the swindlers, as they described the lovely design that didn't exist.



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