View Poll Results: Should the NCAA give Penn State the "death penalty"?

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Thread: NCAA Sanctions: "DP" for Penn Football, or...?

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    let me say this, 20 minutes before Penn Satate learns its penalties from the NCAA, I have been listening to national sports talk radio this weekend, and I tell you the disguisting manner in which the national sports media has reacted to the news that psu will receive "unprecedented penalties" makes clear how all this happened in the first place. the national sports media is inhabited by short sighted lemmings who apparently have difficulty thinking for themselves and are most comfortable repeating what a few others have said.


    even at this late date, the national sports media doesnt understand the football program at penn state should be given these UNPRECEDENTED penalties. these people are showing how joepa wAS able to fool so many for so long. THEY were the people who kept repeating, over and over, year after year, what a moral, honorable, different kind of man Paterno was. And all the while, it wasnt true but it was their mantra and they ran with it, cause it was the easiest thing to do.

    they were putty in paternos hands.

    a shamed industry, imo.
    IF I PUT IT HERE ITS MY OPINION. apparently i have no idea when i need to say that in a post, so this should cover it....IN MY OPINION anyways,

    welcome to the gates of hell JVDS.




    Jose Baez: “I sincerely believe that when we have finally spoken, everyone, and I mean everyone, will sit back and say, ‘Now, I understand. That explains it.’”



    Jose Baez to da judge :

    ".....that type of testing is unique. we requested that they be allowed to test items and that of course was objected to by the state and and uh the state uh granted or sustained their objection, denied our opportunity to have him test these items due to a very specialized field, subfield, of dna that he is one of the pioneers of uh in the alternative of we were granted the ability to test certain items by an outside lab...."

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    Quote Originally Posted by IzzyBlanche View Post
    I have said this before but I will say it once more.

    Agreed. No evidence that PSU officials tried to cover up 1998 at the time.

    However. If the 2001 incident had been made public, and it came out at that time that PSU officials knew about the 1998 incident but made no effort afterward, at the very least to prevent JS from bringing kids onto campus, or making sure he was chaperoned, or any other of numerous actions they could have taken knowing about 1998, then scandal would have erupted and recruiting gone down the drain.
    NO KIDDING. It isnt what they did in 1998. Its what they didnt do. They had a warning and they ignored it. Because they were able to. They didnt exercise ther\ care a gardnerer does over his bean crop and they had been put on notice that there was a rabbit ion the garden. but they looked away and did nothing, said nothing. didnt even watch out.

    just because a social worker says he doesn t undrestand something doesnt mean the entire administration has to avert their eyes as sandusky continued to molest boys in broad daylight.

    they looked away. they averted their eyes. they failed those boys right then and there. in 1998.

    and they did it because of KING FOOTBALL
    IF I PUT IT HERE ITS MY OPINION. apparently i have no idea when i need to say that in a post, so this should cover it....IN MY OPINION anyways,

    welcome to the gates of hell JVDS.




    Jose Baez: “I sincerely believe that when we have finally spoken, everyone, and I mean everyone, will sit back and say, ‘Now, I understand. That explains it.’”



    Jose Baez to da judge :

    ".....that type of testing is unique. we requested that they be allowed to test items and that of course was objected to by the state and and uh the state uh granted or sustained their objection, denied our opportunity to have him test these items due to a very specialized field, subfield, of dna that he is one of the pioneers of uh in the alternative of we were granted the ability to test certain items by an outside lab...."

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    Wow, 60 million dollar fine.........
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    fine of 60 million! = 1 yrs revenue of fball team!
    ...and be sure your sin will find you out.

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    vacates alll wins since '98
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    Quote Originally Posted by waltzingmatilda View Post
    fine of 60 million! = 1 yrs revenue of fball team!
    Not too tough then, I guess.
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    All wins since '98 vacated. (This should mean that Grambling's Eddie Robinson should again be the winningest college football coach. Paterno had passed him.)

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    This is bad!!!! Just wow!!!


    The current playeers will be allowed to transfer.
    ...and be sure your sin will find you out.

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    4-year bowl ban, loss of scholarships (from 25 to 15, next four years), 5 years' probation.

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    4 yr postseason football ban....

    taking reporters questions now
    ...and be sure your sin will find you out.

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    Vacating all wins since 1998 - who would have expected? Since the first incident...wow just wow.

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    Sports Illustrated ‏@SInow
    The NCAA will impose an 'Integrity Monitor" on Penn State to report quarterly on the Board of Trustees for five years
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    The Associated Press ‏@AP
    BREAKING: NCAA says #PennState perpetuated "football first" culture that must change.

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    Well.
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    1st impression listening to this was tears for the ripple sandusky has caused for so many people. Then anger that this kind of punishment even had to be brougt on. Right now to me this is fair & just. Though I do think this year of football should have been closed. It's sad how inconsequnetial the money figure really is. Ha 1 year revenue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipstaff View Post
    Vacating all wins since 1998 - who would have expected? Since the first incident...wow just wow.
    I suspected Tipstaff! Read my post on pg 4, it's the very last one.

    wm
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    Quote Originally Posted by wfgodot View Post
    All wins since '98 vacated. (This should mean that Grambling's Eddie Robinson should again be the winningest college football coach. Paterno had passed him.)
    Paterno family won't like this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipstaff View Post
    Vacating all wins since 1998 - who would have expected? Since the first incident...wow just wow.
    Perfect imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfgodot View Post
    All wins since '98 vacated. (This should mean that Grambling's Eddie Robinson should again be the winningest college football coach. Paterno had passed him.)
    Probably either Robinson with an asterisk or Paterno with an asterisk. I'm happy about that.


    What happened to former Centre County DA Ray Gricar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by waltzingmatilda View Post
    http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports...osses/related/

    But consider this snippet from the NCAA’s website related to charges a program can face:


    “However, if an institution agrees with the facts that the investigation has uncovered, the case can enter the summary-disposition process before a notice of allegations is provided. In summary disposition, the school and the enforcement staff agree on the facts and a set of penalties to be imposed; no hearing before the Committee on Infractions is necessary.”

    Such a case would bypass the normal NCAA investigative protocol, and indeed that’s what we have here.


    Hmmmm. After reading the bolded part, I would bet that Erikson is already aware of the NCAA's sanctions and has agreed to them. Hence, the removal of the statue at such an odd time of day on a Sunday. It makes me wonder if 2A will take away some of JP's wins. The city of Grambling sent a letter requesting they do so, I read somewhere. (GU's coach held the most wins record til JP surpassed it.) All just my speculation.

    I guess we'll find out at 9 am. It's gonna be a busy news day!

    moo

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    I rarely bump my own post, but I was pondering the possibility of JP/PSU being stripped of wins. I am still speechless that it;s wins all the way back to '98!

    wm
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    Mark Emmert wrote a letter to Penn State President Rodney Erickson in November that included four questions he wanted the university to answer.

    The NCAA felt the questions were answered by the Freeh report and therefore it could act before the university responded, a source familiar with the case said.

    Full article - KTLA Los Angeles

    http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktl...0,118890.story

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    Quote Originally Posted by waltzingmatilda View Post
    I suspected Tipstaff! Read my post on pg 4, it's the very last one.

    wm
    You read all the signs WM - I read about Grambling filing to have PS wins vacated but just never suspected the NCAA would go back to 1998.

    Good call WM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. J. in Phila View Post
    Probably either Robinson with an asterisk or Paterno with an asterisk. I'm happy about that.
    I'm betting on no asterisk and no mention of the name Paterno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. J. in Phila View Post
    Probably either Robinson with an asterisk or Paterno with an asterisk. I'm happy about that.
    Where is Bobby Bowden in the ranking now?

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