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    Quote Originally Posted by KateB View Post
    No code has to be inserted here.

    First name with * Found deceased.
    still adding the submissions from the first 50 posts but this is the 2 state blended list so far, with many more to go.
    No maps yet, chicken_fried.

    Kimberly Ann Langwell's boyfriend is POI so likely not a BSL victim.
    Thanks! This looks great! I got bogged and was never able to post what I had. (working off iPad not computer ATM)

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    Quote Originally Posted by aviatrix View Post
    for now, I would stick with white females, petite, ages 20 to 35 which we know has been his preference in the past. I am not saying he did not kill other folks, just there are so many possibilities we are going to have to limit. Obviously we should start close to home in Church Point and Lafayette since these are his known hunting grounds. As we figure out what was in the trailer, we will be able to expand his radius. I think probably we should develop a top fifty list. Put it in five columns based on: Location, age/sex of victim, method of killing and location/disposal of body. If anyone else has a better way or a better method of categorizing probable victims.....now's the time to share! The more the merrier in this particular project. We appreciate all input.

    I had been keeping track of location found if that is available. Not sure if it would be adding to much info or not. I was curious to see if there was a connection between where people are missing vs where people are found. Kwim?

    Also, LP was about 10 years older than he is. Do you think we should increase the age range or typically does the preference stay the same as the perp gets older?

    Eta: no clue where the frowning guy is coming from. And cann't get him to go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bessie View Post
    My list has about 130 names ranging from 1971-2011. It's information I compiled when we were putting together the I-45 forum.

    I haven't been able to confirm that he was ever on work release. How about a furlough, though? A few hours on the outside would be plenty of time to work off some anger, kwim? Just speculatin'. Yes, it would be, or should be, part of the record. Unless I've missed something (quite possible), I'm unaware that anyone outside of the correctional system has actually seen his record. Louisiana Department of Corrections has confirmed locations and start/end dates of confinement only.

    http://www.dailyworld.com/article/20...ore-grand-jury
    What is a furlough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KateB View Post
    Question on the date for Ms. Bouzigard. I have 2 sources for the 29th and 2 for the 23rd.
    29th dailycomet in quote.
    23rd http://kpel965.com/family-of-murdere...fering-reward/
    29th http://www.kplctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=13681086
    23rd houmatoday obituary. (can I post obituaries?)

    It is important because Samantha Schauer is missing from 11/23/2009 in TX. I'm leaning towards the most recent reward post & the houmatoday information being correct & using 23rd. Thoughts?
    I would go with the date from the obit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gngr~snap View Post
    I'm not so sure. While I agree that he may have a "type" that "type" may have changed due to circumstances beyond his control.

    When he was in control I believe arson and killing someone else so they can take the blame may also be his mo.

    There are too many "deaths" that occurred and were followed by fire or suicide for an area the size of Church Point.
    AND probably why no one is talking!!! Because they KNOW the last time BSL was "in jail" he was roaming around free.
    NOT one of them is going to go on record and state that.
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    Do you have a list of those deaths we can compare to his timeline? It is an interesting theory!

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    Quote Originally Posted by redtoedfrog View Post
    Do you have a list of those deaths we can compare to his timeline? It is an interesting theory!
    One is already known -Lisa Pate.
    The other three were all known to
    associate with BSL
    All 4 died in a 3 month period.

    2 perhaps the same day!
    (June 19) or (July 3rd)
    depending on what day Lisa pate died.
    I'm thinking July 3rd as LE stated.

    It may become significant.

    I have a link that lists them all
    as dead in Crowley but don't
    think I can link it. It's a link from the
    city. - official records...

    Maybe BSL is just unlucky...

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    Quote Originally Posted by redtoedfrog View Post
    I had been keeping track of location found if that is available. Not sure if it would be adding to much info or not. I was curious to see if there was a connection between where people are missing vs where people are found. Kwim?

    Also, LP was about 10 years older than he is. Do you think we should increase the age range or typically does the preference stay the same as the perp gets older?

    Eta: no clue where the frowning guy is coming from. And cann't get him to go away.
    I saved bessie's spreadsheets in the TX killing fields forum & saw she includes date and location found as you suggest. She, also, includes cause of death and/or condition of remains. Considering that data, one would probably exclude Kirsten Brydum due to COD being gunshot wounds to the head. So far, none of BSL's crimes appear to involve guns. I think that data is very helpful. I didn't include the additional info on the post since it makes the report too wide & blows margins but I have kept it as it's been gathered. And can be attached instead of embedded like bessie's in the killing fields forum.

    There was a 15 year age difference between BSL & LP in 1999 so might review & consider up to 50 yrs old for his 2008+ potential victims. I think its better to include broadly on the age or am I just hoping 50 is still considered young.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aviatrix View Post
    I still think he was involved in the murder of Theresa Wren Gilcrease. There is a sketch of the suspect, but I cannot get it to display. Can someone look at the case and post the sketch of the suspect? I would like to know if anyone else thinks that this sketch looks like BSL. Please be honest.

    The location is right -- she was found near LSUA which is on the highway from Leesville (Fort Polk) to his home in Church Point. He met her at a bar, killed her and then ran over her body. The date does not fit. Comments?
    http://www.rpso.org/cold_cases.htm

    White/Female
    DOB: 02/14/1958

    On 06/10/2002 a caller to the Rapides Parish Sheriff's Office reported having found a deceased female at the property located at 132 Jenkins Road in Alexandria, La. The victim was last seen at the "Stick" lounge located on Mac Arthur Drive in Alexandria, in the company of an unknown white male. A sketch was made of the white male who was with the victim at the lounge. Anyone with information is asked to call Crime Stoppers at 318-443-7867 or Sgt. Steven Reed with the Cold Case Unit at 318-641-6000.

    sketch attached.


    She doesn't fit the timeline but did want to post the info that I finally found.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bessie View Post
    Agreed. I can't see BSL finding his way to the Bywater. He'd stick out like a sore thumb. If he did make his way down there, I think he'd be in a big hurry to find his way out. I sure would like to see Jessica's murder solved, though.

    BTW, I updated the info on BSL's incarceration in the OP. I'd love to know if he was actually behind bars the entire eight years. I have a long list of missing/murdered in Texas, but the dates don't fit his timeline.
    Jessica Hawk doesn't fit the time line either, now that I review the new additions to the list. She was found on a Monday Aug 11, 2008. I recorded a LKA date of August 6 but am unable to verify that. (Very well may have been I can't count on my fingers right.) I find several references that she was probably killed Friday or Saturday, but if LKA was Thursday, that would have been August 7. Either date would have been prior to BSL's release, unless it was Saturday Aug 9, the date of his release.

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    Tomasina Suzanne Marchbanks 22 7/6/1995 Monroe, LA

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/..._tomasina.html

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    Jennifer Lehrmann 27 2/2/2009 Marrero, LA
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/..._jennifer.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by KateB View Post
    Jessica Hawk doesn't fit the time line either, now that I review the new additions to the list. She was found on a Monday Aug 11, 2008. I recorded a LKA date of August 6 but am unable to verify that. (Very well may have been I can't count on my fingers right.) I find several references that she was probably killed Friday or Saturday, but if LKA was Thursday, that would have been August 7. Either date would have been prior to BSL's release, unless it was Saturday Aug 9, the date of his release.
    It took me awhile, but I finally found the Times Picayune article which says she was last seen Friday, (August 8, 2008), by Dr Bob, the guy who provided the description for the sketch. He claims that after he chased away the peeper on Friday, he warned Jessica about him.

    The discovery came after a peculiar Friday night incident that rattled a neighbor.

    Shaffer was able to scare the man away with a bright spotlight and later warned Hawk.


    http://www.nola.com/timespic/stories...350.xml&coll=1
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    BSL WAS OUT OF JAIL IN 2003!!!~ it seems.
    He bought a car!
    Description: Red 1989 Ford Mustang - Hatchback 2 Door
    Title Issue Date: 8/19/2003

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8204504&postcount=338"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - LA LA - ***ARREST*** Mickey Shunick, 21, Lafayette, 19 May 2012 #40[/ame]
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    He has also bought at least 3 more since 10/31/08

    Title Issue Date: 10/31/2008
    Title Issue Date: 5/28/2009
    Earliest Registration Date: 6/13/2012 does not say title
    but we know it was a new truck to him.
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    I think it's very likely that he was given special privileges while in jail that allowed him out and possibly unsupervised. The fact that A.C.I. has information showing that BSL registered a car in 2003 (when he should have been behind bars and unable too) just makes me more sure of this. Does anyone have any ideas on how we can find out of this is, in fact, true? I'm been searching and searching for records online that might give that information to no avail. You would think that his records would have to indicate this in some way?

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    I don't know why he would purchase a car while in prison. Unless there was a reason within the family to transfer the car into his name. Who knows, but it could have been done from inside because notaries do provide services to inmates.

    http://blog.123notary.com/?tag=find-...prison-signing
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    I DO think it is possible that BL has other victims; just not sold on the idea he was able to find and murder victims while he was serving time.

    I am most interested in Ali Lowitzer; her disappearance seems to fit, if it is ever known that he was in the area on that day in April 2 years ago. His probation would have ended that January, IIRC, and he may have been free to do more "traveling" than usual.
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    I finally found an article on BSL's uncle. It's only $1.95... I may pay for it just to see what else it says... I haven't decided yet.
    It looks like it might not even be there anymore.

    The Advocate : ACADIANA PARISHES‎
    $1.95 -
    The Advocate - Mar 3, 1999
    Leander "Black" Venable, 65, 1541 Deanne Highway, Church Point, was found at 7:30 am by deputies, the press release states. The release did not state where ...

    http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/...ckval=GooglePM

    I'm only seeing something about an unrelated gas link.

    I'll keep searching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gngr~snap View Post
    I finally found an article on BSL's uncle. It's only $1.95... I may pay for it just to see what else it says... I haven't decided yet.
    It looks like it might not even be there anymore.

    The Advocate : ACADIANA PARISHES‎
    $1.95 -
    The Advocate - Mar 3, 1999
    Leander "Black" Venable, 65, 1541 Deanne Highway, Church Point, was found at 7:30 am by deputies, the press release states. The release did not state where ...

    http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/...ckval=GooglePM

    I'm only seeing something about an unrelated gas link.

    I'll keep searching.
    Save your money. The article didn't say much else.

    March 3, 1999
    The Advocate
    Church Point man killed CHURCH POINT - A man was fatally shot early Tuesday, a press release from the Acadia Parish Sheriff's Office said.
    It says more information would be released later the same day.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gngr~snap View Post
    BSL WAS OUT OF JAIL IN 2003!!!~ it seems.
    He bought a car!
    Description: Red 1989 Ford Mustang - Hatchback 2 Door
    Title Issue Date: 8/19/2003

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    He has also bought at least 3 more since 10/31/08

    Title Issue Date: 10/31/2008
    Title Issue Date: 5/28/2009
    Earliest Registration Date: 6/13/2012 does not say title
    but we know it was a new truck to him.
    moo
    This speculation about the Mustang is bothering me, so I just have to speak up. Many people finance their vehicles rather than buying them outright, which means that the bank holds the title until the car is paid off. I suspect he bought the car prior to incarceration and paid it off while in prison at which time the title was transferred to him.

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    I just thanked your post in the other thread, fittzi. It makes a lot of sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fittzi View Post
    This speculation about the Mustang is bothering me, so I just have to speak up. Many people finance their vehicles rather than buying them outright, which means that the bank holds the title until the car is paid off. I suspect he bought the car prior to incarceration and paid it off while in prison at which time the title was transferred to him.
    That could be... Maybe the wife took the car finished paying it off,
    the title was sent to him, then transferred to her?
    IDK could be something like that.
    I do know that the assault in Feb. 1999 was over him wanting
    "his" truckback. ~not sure how a Mustang fits in.

    He was arrested in Feb 1999.
    If he did the 1/3 of his sentence as has been suspected by some,
    me included, that could put him on supervised parole by Aug 2003.
    Not sure how much financing is done on a 14 yr old car though...

    ETA: "Most banks will NOT lend you money for a used car that is more than 4 or 5 years old"
    http://www.carbuyingtips.com/usedcarloans.htm

    Ehhh... there are other ways to get loans...
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    Bringing this over from Mickey's threads:

    Originally Posted by A.C.I [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8204504#post8204504"]View Post[/ame] 7/28/2012

    Here's the list. This is everything that's ever been in his name. I had to remove all the private information of course (plates, vins, social etc)

    Description: 2009 Chevrolet Silverado - Crew Pickup
    Earliest Registration Date: 6/13/2012

    Description: 1991 Dodge Stealth - Hatchback 2 Door
    Registration Date: 1/6/2012

    Description: White 2011 Chevrolet Silverado - Crew Pickup
    Earliest Registration Date: 10/28/2011

    Description: 1999 Mitsubishi Galant - Sedan 4 Door
    Registration Date: 8/22/2011

    Description: 2005 GMC Sierra - 4 Door EXT Cab PK
    Registration Date: 12/17/09

    Description: White 2009 Suzuki Equator - 4 Door EXT Cab PK
    Title Issue Date: 5/28/2009

    Description: Silver 2008 GMC Sierra - Crew Pickup
    Title Issue Date: 10/31/2008

    Description: White 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee - 4 Dr Wagon Sport Utility
    Registration Date: 3/28/2011

    Description: 1992 Honda Accord - Sedan 4 Door
    Registration Date: 8/12/2008

    Description: Red 1989 Ford Mustang - Hatchback 2 Door
    Title Issue Date: 8/19/2003

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    Combined List of Potential Victims of BSL

    No code has to be inserted here.

    * on first name indicates Found Deceased.

    Excluded/Removed:
    Jessica Hawk - timeline conflict 8/8/2008
    Kimberly Ann Langwell - boyfriend is POI
    JoAnn Sendejas - timeline conflict 12/24/1999
    Dina Weston - located alive via mugshot.

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    http://www.theadvertiser.com/assets/pdf/DG19295683.PDF

    Court document filed by Keith A Stutes, Assistant District Attorney, 15th Judicial District Criminal Docket Number: 138234

    Concerning the above referenced matter, please find enclosed for filing the State's original "Disclosure, Production, Notice To Defendant, and Request for State's Discovery." I am by copy of these pleadings making service upon the defendant, through his attorney, Burleigh Doga and Honorable Judge Herman Clause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aviatrix View Post
    I still think he was involved in the murder of Theresa Wren Gilcrease. There is a sketch of the suspect, but I cannot get it to display. Can someone look at the case and post the sketch of the suspect? I would like to know if anyone else thinks that this sketch looks like BSL. Please be honest.

    The location is right -- she was found near LSUA which is on the highway from Leesville (Fort Polk) to his home in Church Point. He met her at a bar, killed her and then ran over her body. The date does not fit. Comments?
    I don't think BSL would have gone north to the Alexandria area from Leesville to get to Churchpoint. I also don't think the sketch looks like him either.

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