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    Quote Originally Posted by nmr View Post
    https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=l...&z=15&lci=bike

    According to Google Maps, it is 1.6 miles - or about eight minutes - to bike from Lederman's Big and Tall Store to where the girls' bikes were found. That's a very tight time frame for something to happen where their bikes were found, though. To me, that would indicate that they may have set their bikes on the path themselves and then run into trouble shortly afterward.
    Yes! That is incredible to me that they biked 1.6 miles thru residential neighborhoods, stop signs, traffic, and then apparently completely disappeared, in 12 minutes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms Pragmatic View Post
    I was wondering about that biker too.
    What biker?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pensfan View Post
    What biker?
    I'm guessing the one that almost crashed when he came across the girls' bikes on the trail?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mdcastle View Post
    I question why they're still searching cars.

    If the perp was going to move the girls or their remains, why do it now, as opposed to having done it immediately after the abduction or waiting until the heat dies down?

    Draining the lake was grasping at straws but I could see the logic in absolutely ruling it out. This seems to be an even bigger waste of time.
    If a vehicle had been used to transport the girls there could be an article of clothing, an earring or a shoe, blood evidence or hair. If it was used to transport a dead body it would stink by now, even if just a small amount of body fluid was left. ( Remember Casey Anthony's trunk?)

    I think that stopping vehicles to check trunks could also be a good excuse to observe the demeanor of the people in the vehicle. Someone who is overly anxious could be hiding guilty knowledge. Perps are known for finding ways to be close to the investigation, so it's a good idea to know who is hanging around, watching LE.



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    Yes, the biker who had to swerve to miss the bikes on the trail


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    Have a question for locals about Meyers Lake/Evansdale Nature Trail. How well-known is it in Waterloo and other nearby towns? Do people from these nearby towns go there for relaxation, etc., or is it more of a place that is used just by residents of Evansdale?


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    My friend lives next to the lake. She drives a black suv and was not stopped. She was surprised because she was in a line being stopped but they waved her through.
    Last edited by lablover1; 07-20-2012 at 11:07 PM. Reason: autocorrect said sub not suv



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    Quote Originally Posted by nikb View Post
    I'm guessing the one that almost crashed when he came across the girls' bikes on the trail?
    You were probably picturing some big burly guy wearing leather chaps with tattoos? I was, took me a minute to think about the OTHER kind of "biker" (who granted could still be some big burly tattooed guy wearing leather, but less likely)

    Maybe I'm naive but I just can't even wrap my mind around this guy being involved. I mean if someone asked you to do something like that you'd have to know his/her/their intentions for the girls were not good, right? And I want to believe that at least most people are good at heart and would watch out for kids. Especially Elizabeth who is obviously pretty small and looks more "kid-like" than Lyric. I know they're both kids, just saying I can see how Lyric could be mistaken for a teenager who's maybe out getting into "teenager-y" type mischief, but not Elizabeth. My heart hurts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by huckleberryhound View Post
    Yes! That is incredible to me that they biked 1.6 miles thru residential neighborhoods, stop signs, traffic, and then apparently completely disappeared, in 12 minutes.
    makes me wonder about the biker who saw their bikes on the trail. now that I think about it 12:27 sort of seems like an exact time. I think if I was reporting something I saw on a ride it would be something like "around 12:30"....anybody remember his name?


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    I wonder if they had a possible description of a suspect and were searching based upon that as opposed to type of car?


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    Quote Originally Posted by TGIRecovered View Post
    If a vehicle had been used to transport the girls there could be an article of clothing, an earring or a shoe, blood evidence or hair. If it was used to transport a dead body it would stink by now, even if just a small amount of body fluid was left. ( Remember Casey Anthony's trunk?)

    I think that stopping vehicles to check trunks could also be a good excuse to observe the demeanor of the people in the vehicle. Someone who is overly anxious could be hiding guilty knowledge. Perps are known for finding ways to be close to the investigation, so it's a good idea to know who is hanging around, watching LE.
    I thought the trunk reeked because Kaylee actually decomposed in the trunk for days not was killed then removed quickly. I also thought only dogs could smell decomp that happens within minutes of death because of their keen sense of smell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by threecrazykids View Post
    Some people were asking what local's opinions/thoughts are. I am not directly in Evansdale, but about 30 mins south - yet this literally feels like it is in my backyard.<snipped for space>
    As heart wrenching as it was to read what you've heard, thank you for sharing it.


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    Ok, this might be really off-the-wall, but I'll say it anyway.

    Is it possible that the bikes seen at 12:27 weren't those belonging to the girls? If they were in the middle of the path, and nobody admits to moving them, could they have been placed there by someone waiting for someone vulnerable to stop and check them out or move them?

    I keep thinking of someone (maybe at least one a woman or teen so they aren't so intimidating) could have called to them when they stopped with some kind of a ruse - puppies, kittens, needing help, whatever. Once the girls got over there, they could grab them, throw them and their own bikes in the back (of a van, maybe?) and left. It could have been any time between 12:27 when two bikes were seen and the time when the girls' bikes were found. That could also account for the sighting later in the day and the bikes being there earlier.

    Or, maybe I've watch too many mystery movies...


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    Quote Originally Posted by sreshowtime View Post
    maybe it's not so much they are searching cars- but 'searching' reactions?
    Maybe they are looking for keys. Or part of a cell phone case, or something really random and unimportant most people think nothing of or doesnt notice when pieces fall of whatever object ?

    Like a torn up headliner in a car drops certain fillers. Or a beaded key ring looses beads. Or a certain kind of park tree leaf or nut on a floorboard or a certain pets hair on a car seat? Did the girls have pets?


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    I've looked & looked but i can't seem to find it. How do we know the girls were seen on video??


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