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    They allege the Giving first.org.did not give funds to the victims families...instead they sent the money to non profits org.

    http://www.9news.com/news/article/28...lies-speak-out


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    So, if he was the cel phone caller in the theater, was it the Psychiatrist whom he was calling???? (See news report--called psychiatrist 9 min. before shooting)


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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadCat View Post
    So, if he was the cel phone caller in the theater, was it the Psychiatrist whom he was calling???? (See news report--called psychiatrist 9 min. before shooting)
    Looks like defense have phone records now


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    Hard to talk on cell phone while wearing a gas mask, no? So, I assume he put this on after making cel phone call. Wonder if defense proved he made the call from records or if he just said so.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadCat View Post
    Hard to talk on cell phone while wearing a gas mask, no? So, I assume he put this on after making cel phone call. Wonder if defense proved he made the call from records or if he just said so.
    He may have call her when he exited the theater like how corbin (witness) described.


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    Yes, the call could have been made prior to exiting the theater - as some people said, they saw someone on a cell phone leaving via the exit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadCat View Post
    Hard to talk on cell phone while wearing a gas mask, no? So, I assume he put this on after making cel phone call. Wonder if defense proved he made the call from records or if he just said so.
    It must be from phone records for them to specifically state 9 minutes


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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...00b_story.html

    Sounds like they have phone records from the Hospital and defense claims...
    Attorney Tamara Brady said Holmes made the call nine minutes before he is accused of opening fire at a Batman movie premiere, killing 12 people and injuring 58. Brady provided no evidence at the hearing to support that claim, and she did not immediately return a message Friday.

    Hospital marketing director Brad Fixler said the switchboard did receive a seven-second call at 12:31 a.m. on July 20, about eight minutes before 911 dispatchers began receiving calls about the shooting. But he said the caller hung up without saying anything.

    “We did not receive any calls asking specifically for Dr. Fenton nor any other psychiatrist at our hospital,” Fixler said.


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    Quote Originally Posted by February View Post
    He may have call her when he exited the theater like how corbin (witness) described.
    Well Corbin didn't describe Holmes leaving the theatre and based on Corbin's statements he sure noticed that person a couple times... but I know what you're saying Feb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HastingsChi View Post
    Well Corbin didn't describe Holmes leaving the theatre and based on Corbin's statements he sure noticed that person a couple times... but I know what you're saying Feb.

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    Corbin also left for a bit to get his gf in the lobby. So, he might have missed something.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadCat View Post
    Corbin also left for a bit to get his gf in the lobby. So, he might have missed something.
    True. To be honest I was just being snarky...

    Btw has anyone checked the phone records against the timeline?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HastingsChi View Post
    True. To be honest I was just being snarky...

    Btw has anyone checked the phone records against the timeline?

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    HastingsChi, are you talking about the CNN timeline? The UC hospital said the call was made at 12:31 (really sounds planned, no? "set plan in motion at 12:30. Make phone call. Get dressed. Enter")

    Seems to mesh up, no? But not sure it meshes with the "cell phone guy's" phone call--that all happened before the movie began, didn't it? I need to review Date's account. Or course who knows what they mean by "the movie had been underway?" Previews can take 20 minutes!

    http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2012/...ing/index.html
    Approximately 12:37 a.m. -- Witnesses say the movie has been under way about 20 minutes in Theater 9 when an exit door to the right of the screen opens and a man walks in. They say he is dressed all in black and wearing what appears to be a bullet-proof vest and a gas mask. He throws something, which begins hissing and emitting smoke. Witnesses say the suspect shoots into the ceiling and then starts firing into the crowd. Pandemonium follows as people start scrambling to get out, hide under the seats and escape any way they can.

    12:39 a.m. -- Aurora police say dozens, perhaps hundreds, of calls start flooding 911. The dispatcher calls to units: "They're saying someone is shooting in the auditorium."


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    Do I have this right? A lot happened in few minutes. The chaos must have been unbelieveable.

    http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/nat...orado-shooting

    At 12:05 the movie starts in Theater 9
    At 12:31, the phone call is made
    At 12:39, gas is released in the theater, shooting happens in Theater 9, bullets also fly into Theater 8, some people run out Exit door to 8, 12 killed/58 wounded, gun jams, JH goes outside, sees people out there, chases them back inside (via theater 8 exit door), gets himself locked out and then heads to his car to wait.
    At 12:45 Police dispatch notes suspect in car.

    This sounds like some of the links someone posted about dyphoric mania where people described just wanting to kill a bunch of people. No sense in any of it. No need to kill everyone--just wanted to shoot off a few rounds to feel better or something. (I don't really know anything about dyphoric mania or hearing voices--do people report that after they do the terrible things the voices say, do they somehow feel "better"?) Ugh. Sad for victims (all of them).


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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadCat View Post
    HastingsChi, are you talking about the CNN timeline? The UC hospital said the call was made at 12:31 (really sounds planned, no? "set plan in motion at 12:30. Make phone call. Get dressed. Enter")

    Seems to mesh up, no? But not sure it meshes with the "cell phone guy's" phone call--that all happened before the movie began, didn't it? I need to review Date's account. Or course who knows what they mean by "the movie had been underway?" Previews can take 20 minutes!

    http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2012/...ing/index.html
    I was referring to the well fact checked, to the second timeline that I assumed someone here may have developed and is very familiar with; I don't know if such a timeline exists but trust my fellow WSers more than other sources...

    I guess I asked that with the question of "Did he have time to change clothing and put on tactical gear between the call and the first shot?" noting that tactical gear doesn't go on as quick as sweatpants and a t shirt...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadCat View Post
    At 12:05 the movie starts in Theater 9
    At 12:31, the phone call is made
    At 12:39, gas is released in the theater, shooting happens in Theater 9, bullets also fly into Theater 8,
    IMO this timeline doesn't allow the time to put on tactical gear, get weapons, do whatever one has to do to the gas things to get them in a "live"/"armed" state.


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