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    IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #10

    http://wcfcourier.com/news/local/eva...9bb2963f4.html

    http://www.kwwl.com/story/19023342/e...-missing-girls

    These girls have been missing all afternoon and the search was suspended tonight now that it's dark here. We're a small town next to a larger city but a small police force that has likely never dealt with missing kids.. Bikes found on the trail and purse and phone had been thrown over the fence near the bikes but the other side of the fence is a hill leading to the highway. Right now the search is very disorganized and there aren't any flyers .


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    IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, and Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #10

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaimeInLA View Post
    Grandma saw them at 12:15, then "went to look for them" from 12:30 - 1:30.

    Which way were the girls riding on the cctv? I know it was West. But is west TOWARD the Collins home, or away from it?
    The Collins home appears to be South of the last sighting of the girls.


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    IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, and Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #10

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    respectfully snipped and colored for emphasis Do not sleuth individuals who have not been mentioned in MSM either as persons of interest or as suspects by LE.
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    Which direction were the bikes facing on the trail? West or East?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MNDad View Post
    Which direction were the bikes facing on the trail? West or East?
    I don't believe its been confirmed. The LE spokesman said that, "when he arrived," they were leaning on the fence. A firefighter is reported to have found the bikes at about 4pm, and presumably the parents went to the spot immediately as well.

    Ted Gamerdinger, a local, reported that he'd had to swerve to avoid two bikes on the path sometime shortly before 12:27.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MNDad View Post
    Which direction were the bikes facing on the trail? West or East?
    No one knows. A cyclist said that two bikes were lying on the path, and an officer has said that he saw two bikes leaning against a fence.

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    In the video surveillance footage of the girls, there are some kind of storage containers or something in that parking lot behind Ledermans. Are those things that someone could get inside of?

    Last night I had a sudden thought out of nowhere - how terrible would it be if the girls had somehow gotten inside one of those things and couldn't get out? Some other kids come along, find the bikes and purse, ride them to the lake, go thru the purse, toss it over the fence and abandon the bikes, setting off a wild goosechase.

    But of course this CAN"T be that simple. Because those have been checked, right? I hope? And I would think someone would hear them hollering from inside whatever one of those is.

    Too simple, I'm sure. But boy how that made my stomach drop when I imagined such a thing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GGE View Post
    In the video surveillance footage of the girls, there are some kind of storage containers or something in that parking lot behind Ledermans. Are those things that someone could get inside of?

    Last night I had a sudden thought out of nowhere - how terrible would it be if the girls had somehow gotten inside one of those things and couldn't get out? Some other kids come along, find the bikes and purse, ride them to the lake, go thru the purse, toss it over the fence and abandon the bikes, setting off a wild goosechase.

    But of course this CAN"T be that simple. Because those have been checked, right? I hope? And I would think someone would hear them hollering from inside whatever one of those is.

    Too simple, I'm sure. But boy how that made my stomach drop when I imagined such a thing.
    Sometimes these things are, unfortunately, that simple. However, dogs tracked the girls scent by the lake so my guess is that HAD to have been there, right? I don't know much about tracking, but I'm assuming the dogs weren't following the scent of the bikes or purse alone, as you would think they would have tracked much farther.
    Is anyone here an expert (or close) on how scent dogs track?
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    It just seems so weird that they start of heading north and then end up at the lake.

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    I might be WAY behind you all and this was probably already discussed, but did you see that MCM was convicted for Filing a False Police Report in her past?

    http://www.allnews1067.com/abc_news/...3FEFDADE6840A/

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    Quote Originally Posted by duchessofdork View Post
    It just seems so weird that they start of heading north and then end up at the lake.
    They did not start off going North. The video shows them going WEST. At any point, they could have just turned south, and rode to the lake. Or they could have rode around the block and gone back east. Nobody knows. We only know that at 12:15-ish, they were going West.

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