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    All Things Gary Schultz

    Here's a link to the pdf transcript of the Curley/Schultz preliminary hearing.

    http://cnninsession.files.wordpress....transcript.pdf

    Starting on pg 124 is the cross examination of Tom Harmon by <Gary> Schultz's attorney, Thomas Farrell. It's an interesting read because some of Harmon's testimony contradicts what we learned in the Freeh report. SPORTSbyBROOKS made the following document that points out some of the discrepancies.

    http://media.sportsbybrooks.com/2012...estigation.pdf

    (Harmon was not interviewed by Freeh. I'm not sure if the declined an interview or the AG requested Freeh not interview him.)

    Perhaps Farrell's line of questioning gives us some indication of the strategy he plans to use in Schultz's perjury trial.
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    the more I read about psu the more it seems like it should be set in a valley in alabama rather than pennsylvania.
    IF I PUT IT HERE ITS MY OPINION. apparently i have no idea when i need to say that in a post, so this should cover it....IN MY OPINION anyways,

    welcome to the gates of hell JVDS.




    Jose Baez: “I sincerely believe that when we have finally spoken, everyone, and I mean everyone, will sit back and say, ‘Now, I understand. That explains it.’”



    Jose Baez to da judge :

    ".....that type of testing is unique. we requested that they be allowed to test items and that of course was objected to by the state and and uh the state uh granted or sustained their objection, denied our opportunity to have him test these items due to a very specialized field, subfield, of dna that he is one of the pioneers of uh in the alternative of we were granted the ability to test certain items by an outside lab...."

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    Quote Originally Posted by costalpilot View Post
    the more I read about psu the more it seems like it should be set in a valley in alabama rather than pennsylvania.
    LOL! Good one! I grew up in Bama and it is a die hard football state. They have Auburn and Alabama to worship and are just as gung ho as PSU!

    I kid you not, about half of my 260 FB friends are from Bama and the majority began posting Roll Tide and War Eagle pics a month ago.

    BTW......

    Tim Buckley is the first official transfer from PSU to NC State.

    http://www.wralsportsfan.com/ncsu/story/11372354/

    Sorry for the OT.

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    James Carville, Clinton's campaign manager, who also managed Robert Casey's 1986 gubernatorial victory in Pennsylvania, famously said: "Pennsylvania is Philadelphia and Pittsburgh with Alabama in between."

    Pennsylvania, politically and culturally, has the "T." Basically, if you take out Southeastern PA, the counties that surround Philadelphia and the Southwest, the counties that surround Pittsburgh, the area looks like a "T." It is also called "Pennsytucky."

    I grew up there, my family had lived on the edges of it for two centuries, I went to school there, and I held office there. It's pretty much true.

    Centre County is much more cosmopolitan that the rest of the area, ironically.


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    I can't open the link. Anywhere that I can see the transcript that is not a pdf? I'm not sure why I am not able to open it.

    J.J., Harmon's retirement date--just a coincidence that it is two months after RFG's disappearance? IYO

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    Quote Originally Posted by rlc View Post
    I can't open the link. Anywhere that I can see the transcript that is not a pdf? I'm not sure why I am not able to open it.

    J.J., Harmon's retirement date--just a coincidence that it is two months after RFG's disappearance? IYO
    No. It seemed like he had been employed there for a while. Even with Sandusky, it was clear that he'd do well, pension wise, in retiring when he did.

    Try closing the PDF and reopening it again.


    What happened to former Centre County DA Ray Gricar?

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    Ex-Penn State official Schultz facing perjury charge wants access to Freeh files

    http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...reeh-files/rss

    The records Schultz wants include notes of interviews with former Penn State president Graham Spanier and with Cynthia Baldwin, the university's former chief counsel. It also seeks information related to a 1998 police investigation of Sandusky that did not result in charges at the time, and Baldwin's notes regarding a January 2011 with former football coach Joe Paterno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCat View Post
    Ex-Penn State official Schultz facing perjury charge wants access to Freeh files

    http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...reeh-files/rss
    I hope one of them flips.


    What happened to former Centre County DA Ray Gricar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. J. in Phila View Post
    I hope one of them flips.
    I see both Schultz and Curley blaming Spanier and Paterno at trial.

    The Freeh report gave foundation for Curley to claim he was simply "Paterno's errand boy", and Spanier defended his press release supporting the two by telling a communications officer he backed Curley and Schultz “because he had asked them to take care of something, they did it ... and he should not abandon them merely because things did not turn out well.”

    Won't be a defense to perjury in any case, but ...
    "I believe it is an established maxim in morals that he who makes an assertion without knowing whether it is true or false, is guilty of falsehood; and the accidental truth of the assertion, does not justify or excuse him." - Abraham Lincoln

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. J. in Phila View Post
    I hope one of them flips.
    If Schultz doesn't flip, at least it looks like he plans to put up a fight. I hope he does. He was beginning to look like a patsy in this whole mess.

    Right from the beginning, the mantra was "Paterno reported McQueary's allegation to the police." But Schultz is not a cop. On page 228 of the transcript I linked to above, Schultz testified before the grand jury that he didn't even realize the University police conducted a criminal investigation in 98. That's consistent with the emails between Schultz and Harmon included in the Freeh report. Harmon only updates Schultz on the status of the DPW investigation, as if the University officer is just tagging along. At no time does he write to Schultz, "our officer ran a sting operation."

    So in 2001, Schultz never suggested reporting the allegation to the University police because he thought it was DPW's responsibility to investigate. Just like 1998.

    I'm not suggesting Schultz is blameless. I don't, however, see any reason he would want to cover up the 2001 incident. Unfortunately for him, no one is concerned about his legacy, so he's the fall guy.

    JMO


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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCat View Post
    If Schultz doesn't flip, at least it looks like he plans to put up a fight. I hope he does. He was beginning to look like a patsy in this whole mess.

    Right from the beginning, the mantra was "Paterno reported McQueary's allegation to the police." But Schultz is not a cop. On page 228 of the transcript I linked to above, Schultz testified before the grand jury that he didn't even realize the University police conducted a criminal investigation in 98. That's consistent with the emails between Schultz and Harmon included in the Freeh report. Harmon only updates Schultz on the status of the DPW investigation, as if the University officer is just tagging along. At no time does he write to Schultz, "our officer ran a sting operation."

    So in 2001, Schultz never suggested reporting the allegation to the University police because he thought it was DPW's responsibility to investigate. Just like 1998.

    I'm not suggesting Schultz is blameless. I don't, however, see any reason he would want to cover up the 2001 incident. Unfortunately for him, no one is concerned about his legacy, so he's the fall guy.

    JMO
    According to the Freeh report, backed up some e-mails and notes, Schultz did look at the files in 2001.


    What happened to former Centre County DA Ray Gricar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. J. in Phila View Post
    According to the Freeh report, backed up some e-mails and notes, Schultz did look at the files in 2001.
    I saw the note about reviewing the 1998 history. I didn't see much detail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCat View Post
    I saw the note about reviewing the 1998 history. I didn't see much detail.
    I think pages 227-8 of the preliminary hearing, Schultz's grand jury testimony entered into the record, clearly conflict with the e-mails.


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    Quote Originally Posted by J. J. in Phila View Post
    I think pages 227-8 of the preliminary hearing, Schultz's grand jury testimony entered into the record, clearly conflict with the e-mails.
    How does a perjury trial work? Does the prosecution only need to prove one false statement? For instance, Curley clearly lied to the grand jury when he said he didn't know about the 98 investigation. So even if McQueary were to recant on the witness stand, it doesn't change the fact that Schultz and Curley gave false answers to other questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCat View Post
    How does a perjury trial work? Does the prosecution only need to prove one false statement? For instance, Curley clearly lied to the grand jury when he said he didn't know about the 98 investigation. So even if McQueary were to recant on the witness stand, it doesn't change the fact that Schultz and Curley gave false answers to other questions.
    It would have to be a lie about a material fact, I think. If Schultz were asked what the colors were of Penn State, and he answered green and yellow, that would not be perjury, from my understanding.

    http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/perjury


    What happened to former Centre County DA Ray Gricar?

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