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    Maybe a better view

    Here, I blew it up, lets hope it does not distort, Again forgive typos and errors. Im a Dode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimeCop View Post
    Here, I blew it up, lets hope it does not distort, Again forgive typos and errors. Im a Dode.
    Well, I tried. Get out the Looking Glass.

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    Sorry, I must have missed it while trying to catch up -- but who called it a breakthrough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montjoy View Post
    Sorry, I must have missed it while trying to catch up -- but who called it a breakthrough?
    I did, when i discovered i had my POIs samples. I am telling you, and everyone else with this last post. I WAS RIGHT. Sorry this riles everyone up and for some reason, maybe I am not an artist and I am seeing things that are not there. I used to have 20/20 vision. Who wants the devil incarcerated anyways. Peace to WS. Good luck everyone at solving what your doing. Its a tough road when no one gets what your saying an jib/jab is all that matters in the discussion. DOH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimeCop View Post
    I did, when i discovered i had my POIs samples. I am telling you, and everyone else with this last post. I WAS RIGHT. Sorry this riles everyone up and for some reason, maybe I am not an artist and I am seeing things that are not there. I used to have 20/20 vision. Who wants the devil incarcerated anyways. Peace to WS. Good luck everyone at solving what your doing. Its a tough road when no one gets what your saying an jib/jab is all that matters in the discussion. DOH.
    Wow, I'm think you may have misinterpreted some of these posts and I'm not sure what you mean by "jib/jab is all that matters in the discussion." You received some pretty solid support and advice. Sorry you feel the way that you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimeCop View Post
    Here, I blew it up, lets hope it does not distort, Again forgive typos and errors. Im a Dode.
    Much cleaner, don't get discouraged. You did ask for help getting you're work accepted. Keep on keepin on,you got a great mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peliman View Post
    Much cleaner, don't get discouraged. You did ask for help getting you're work accepted. Keep on keepin on,you got a great mind.

    Pel
    I did'nt mean to come off as discouraged. I am really frustrated I will admit, and really, I prefer the topics be discussed as if what matters is what is in the topic. I personally feel this is a breakthrough. WHY? Because I have written work from a person I am 100% positive is the Zodiac, or one of them. I believe my poi is the mastermiind of the original night stalker crimes. I also think this sorcerer known as the Zodiac is a person who I believe would exactly profile match my POI.
    I think, beyond a doubgt that my POI handwriting samples are EXELLENT candidates for a handwriting annnalysis and comparison. I am digging through closets and old files to find any thing I have missed. I am glad I kept a folder on anything this guy gave me associating to a treasure hunt we were working on together. This gives me another advantage.
    I must admit, it is hard using conventional wisdom to explain something to people that is extra ordinary. This really frustrates me , because I can not just come out and tell everyone why this guy is the Zodiac and why I am possitive. I DO NOT WANT TO IDENTIFY MYSELF to the world yet. I am not ready. This is going to make me the most well known public citizen sleuther in the world when I finish this game of his. That does not mean I was the smartest cookie in the Jar though, the best speller or the profewssional writer. I work with dial-up and a crappy 1999 computer. I am convinced that Activeintuitiveenergy has some really important stuff to coontribute. He is right about many things in this case that aids to make links to people of suspicious nature. Of course we can not just say a persons name off the top of our heads unless they are a named suspect. All I am trying to do with this thread is show the connection. I dont care if someone trys to steal my work. It is for the publics knowledage in captuing a criminal. I appologize if my post seems out there, I guess my attention was drawn away by the post and I became distracted from the subject at hand. Forgive me.
    I appologize to all if I seem rude in any way, I am just a straight forward person and have alot of things to think about. Especiall this. I LET MY POI INTO MY HOME. He left luggage behind. I am cleaning up the mess. (meaning, he came , instigated me to play the game, then lost at his own game).
    I am up against a sorcerer. God is my shield. The net is my medium and this is the place. Please, quoting me will only ad more distance to the thread between pics, and I really need these to be seen. If I knew how to tag my posts where I do not want discussuion, I would, but I do not know how.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimeCop View Post
    I did'nt mean to come off as discouraged. I am really frustrated I will admit, and really, I prefer the topics be discussed as if what matters is what is in the topic. I personally feel this is a breakthrough. WHY? Because I have written work from a person I am 100% positive is the Zodiac, or one of them. I believe my poi is the mastermiind of the original night stalker crimes. I also think this sorcerer known as the Zodiac is a person who I believe would exactly profile match my POI.
    I think, beyond a doubgt that my POI handwriting samples are EXELLENT candidates for a handwriting annnalysis and comparison. I am digging through closets and old files to find any thing I have missed. I am glad I kept a folder on anything this guy gave me associating to a treasure hunt we were working on together. This gives me another advantage.
    I must admit, it is hard using conventional wisdom to explain something to people that is extra ordinary. This really frustrates me , because I can not just come out and tell everyone why this guy is the Zodiac and why I am possitive. I DO NOT WANT TO IDENTIFY MYSELF to the world yet. I am not ready. This is going to make me the most well known public citizen sleuther in the world when I finish this game of his. That does not mean I was the smartest cookie in the Jar though, the best speller or the profewssional writer. I work with dial-up and a crappy 1999 computer. I am convinced that Activeintuitiveenergy has some really important stuff to coontribute. He is right about many things in this case that aids to make links to people of suspicious nature. Of course we can not just say a persons name off the top of our heads unless they are a named suspect. All I am trying to do with this thread is show the connection. I dont care if someone trys to steal my work. It is for the publics knowledage in captuing a criminal. I appologize if my post seems out there, I guess my attention was drawn away by the post and I became distracted from the subject at hand. Forgive me.
    I appologize to all if I seem rude in any way, I am just a straight forward person and have alot of things to think about. Especiall this. I LET MY POI INTO MY HOME. He left luggage behind. I am cleaning up the mess. (meaning, he came , instigated me to play the game, then lost at his own game).
    I am up against a sorcerer. God is my shield. The net is my medium and this is the place. Please, quoting me will only ad more distance to the thread between pics, and I really need these to be seen. If I knew how to tag my posts where I do not want discussuion, I would, but I do not know how.
    Peace
    BBM - The point of this forum is discussion. We have seen the pics you posted and gave you our opinions of them and our advice on next steps. I'm not really sure what else you are looking for.
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    the 'E; and the 'K' switch-up

    A couple more samples of the eary 'E' and the switch up of the 'K', something I noticed both Zodiac and my POI have done in the same manner.
    There are characteristics here that really are quite good in match. MHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimeCop View Post
    Here, I blew it up, lets hope it does not distort, Again forgive typos and errors. Im a Dode.

    TIMECOP, interesting stuff. Personally I would need to see more, and see some unedited stuff, not just a few letters here and there compared to Zodiac's writing, but a full page or letter from your suspect.

    Here are a couple problems I see in the side by side comparisons you did. Some of the samples that you list as 'ZODIAC WRITING' are NOT confirmed Zodiac writing. For example, you used part of a letter called 'the bleeding knife' letter, an unconfirmed Zodiac letter. I am very familiar with that letter, because I am the person that first published it after I obtained it from the FBI. Its an interesting letter, but definitely NOT confirmed to have been written by Zodiac. And in another sample, you used some of the Riverside desktop writing as a sample to compare against your suspect's. I personally think there is a good chance that Zodiac DID in fact write that, and so did writing expert Sherwood Morrill, but there are others who are not so sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by morf13 View Post
    TIMECOP, interesting stuff. Personally I would need to see more, and see some unedited stuff, not just a few letters here and there compared to Zodiac's writing, but a full page or letter from your suspect.

    Here are a couple problems I see in the side by side comparisons you did. Some of the samples that you list as 'ZODIAC WRITING' are NOT confirmed Zodiac writing. For example, you used part of a letter called 'the bleeding knife' letter, an unconfirmed Zodiac letter. I am very familiar with that letter, because I am the person that first published it after I obtained it from the FBI. Its an interesting letter, but definitely NOT confirmed to have been written by Zodiac. And in another sample, you used some of the Riverside desktop writing as a sample to compare against your suspect's. I personally think there is a good chance that Zodiac DID in fact write that, and so did writing expert Sherwood Morrill, but there are others who are not so sure.
    Thanks for taking the time to look at these for me. I really apreciate your two cents here.
    Yes , you are correct, I only used side by side so far, here is why:
    First I wanted to set the focus on the similarities. I especially find my POI's K,F,R O and small g of most importance, here is why:
    If you (I know you have) read all of the Zodiac letters you will see that there are several times that Zodiac changed his writing style. This is the first thing I noticed when I focused on just the Zodiac letters and none of the other things. I mean, I focused just on the letters. He has a way. and to me it appears as natural, of changing between types of character shapes and styles. Several of the letters even display change within the same letter, which often can mean that the writing was done over a period of time and that the writer had changed somehow( maybe took nap then returned to writing, or even medication). One of the letters that I reallyy doubted at first to be his for example is the '81' letter. I have since been chasing something that came along with that one, and I will discuss that later. But in reality, it would be, in MHO, hard really to not see all of the similar type letters in all of his works. Sometimes, it is only a few of those characters which even tie the letters together, so I know you understand that this is the reason most were lumped together as being his.
    I did use Bleeding knife because of the 'F' especially, one area I think can expose the likelyhood that this should be examined by professionals, the goal I am aiming at here.
    One of the reasons I was even working this area, is because my POI just happened to leave samples of his writing, in relation to code breaking,etc in a treasure huntwe were working(how we became friends). The hunt(s) I should say were basic armchair hunts, you probably know of one called TISOTGH and the other WLOG. While researching these(hiis TISOTGH was an expired hunt that he felt was a rigged hunt,this having what he called: Alternate location), I happened to throw a bunch of our notes together. This is one of the problems I have:
    Many people display the same type of handwrittiing, as we all sit in a class room and learn the basics at a young age. Even some of his writing, especially when we were working together is hard to determine if it is his or mine . Yes, even I display some of the habits he does, but none of my writing displays the (identity) that those mentioned characters above do. Those characters are obvious in relation if you see how the experts tied the works together.
    Long story short:
    I would display larger shots of the writting, but face the problem of exposing my identity and his on the forum (not allowed) and so I have stuck to what I could do. Not to mention, I only have a few samples so far that I could find, but I did find some exciting new stuff I will share with you if you are interested. I had tossed alot away before I was on to him. I would not have even looked at any of this had my poi not "
    Said:1) I am sick of living ,unwilling to die (Zodiac wrote this on the desk top)
    2)turned out to have gone to school in a city where one of the letters came from (something I found as I began to dig)
    3)looks exactly like the sketch(especially the new age progressed sketch matches exact) also something i discovered as I began to unravel his clues he has been giving me
    4)I found his full name in runes on the excorcist letter
    his name overlays the halloween card (key) stick figure
    5)his name is the first crime scenes when setting N to O on the alphabet wheel in relation to marks on the wheel and the map (cant post this on forum)
    6)The shape of diablo is his name in Tent runes and matched with staveless runes
    7)the I am code says "(poi's first name)AM NAME" when doing two simple maneuvers that are suggested by the aries sybol (air 'E's) and using that symbol as none eles but an E

    Symbols in norse tie my POI to this and the story of the Vallhalla ' Hall of the slain' and Ragnarok of Norse mythology, as well to El diablo,666,harmony of the soul to divinity(music values) etc. Its a deeper connection that I have shown to date
    I hope you have a chance to read all the threads. Right now I am focusing on tying the POI to the Victims and so far I am off to a good start there, it is obvious as the site won't allow my new thread to post because it reveals to much about a victim an my POIS location. I do have more samples, I found where he posted the numeric values and the alphabet twice and I will post those soon (I still get no reply from law, but have a date I will keep with the locals soon, a date I chose where they will have it all explained to them).
    None the less, his writing surely has some visible proof of change, but like I mention, those specific character above are the types that would have retained similarity if indeed he wrote those letters, so I focused there. Thanks for your opinion, it is valued and appreciated greatly. I am going to have to take this up locally, I am just researching local area crimes to see if maybe I can get him another way, as well as looking for anything that can be used further for samples. I got the the vibe he still kills, my intuition says he never stopped.
    Hopefully what matters most is that my POI has his DNA compared to some of the unsolved California crimes, such as Arlis Perry church murder. I feel that crime was the smoking Gun and I just feel he trips there to end his game.
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    TimeCop - I do agree with you and think you are on to something. Has anyone ever contacted you back from the police department? When I had asked you that a few weeks ago no one had called you back yet. I think you are on the right track and you are one sharp cookie! I believe in you and am willing to help you if you need my help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JenniferTx View Post
    TimeCop - I do agree with you and think you are on to something. Has anyone ever contacted you back from the police department? When I had asked you that a few weeks ago no one had called you back yet. I think you are on the right track and you are one sharp cookie! I believe in you and am willing to help you if you need my help.
    Thanks Jennifer. I am in desperate need of a handwriting specialist who will look at approximately 5 or 6 sample works I have, the actual full samples,not pieces.(its all I got ). Helping me find someone like this who will volunteer the help would be excellent. I am so blogged down at the moment
    I could also use an expert who can read runes, especially tent runes and Staveless runes. Someone from a college, a professor, anyone with some backing to give me some support to my claim, to make it more valid.
    I appreciate your support.

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    Samples. You compare to the Zodiac

    Mind you, this is 2010 writing samples,maybe as late as mid 2011, Not sure of exact dates, I have mild CRS. I am guessing betwen August 2010 and July 2011 when I was doing so research on codes with my POI. The circled letters are his circles, notice how they really match the Zodiac 'O's"? The LOOK MOM in large letters on the first sample is not his writing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimeCop View Post
    Thanks Jennifer. I am in desperate need of a handwriting specialist who will look at approximately 5 or 6 sample works I have, the actual full samples,not pieces.(its all I got ). Helping me find someone like this who will volunteer the help would be excellent. I am so blogged down at the moment
    I could also use an expert who can read runes, especially tent runes and Staveless runes. Someone from a college, a professor, anyone with some backing to give me some support to my claim, to make it more valid.
    I appreciate your support.
    BBM - Hey Timecop, I just Googled "hire a handwriting expert" and "handwriting analysis" and came up with several companies/ organizations that are available. I'm not posting the links, not sure if it's allowed and I can't really testify to their legitimacy but they are out there. You might just do a little calling or emailing around and see if any of them can help you. Not sure if you can find someone to volunteer or donate their work but it's worth looking into.

    Good luck!
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