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    Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #37

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    Gerard Bayden-Clay has been arrested and charged with the murder of Allison Bayden-Clay


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    ARREST!!! Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 -#26

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    Please do not discuss rumors. Although SOME rumors turn out to be true in the end, there are also those that are just that 'rumor,' and tend to derail the threads. Until there's a 'link' to verify a circumstance, we ask you do NOT post rumors.

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    Why new evidence is needed in topic

    Consider for a moment the evidence so far is weak. He might be guilty of a lot of things and is certainly accused of just about anything in this forum, but, he is on remand and is not convicted of a crime yet. What is the behavior anyone one in jail that really should not be there?

    So what has not been offered up from GBC side of the story is a plausible excuse for who did it. Put yourself in his place, would you be screaming for whoever did it to flush them out?

    What sort of turn up would it be to find that NBC is the one and was at the house to follow up on being called bwanna or something or was accused of covering up affair, and GBC won't dob him. Part of knowing someone is guilty is knowing that no one else did it. Possibilities are still there.

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    Oh I think googling 'Taking the Fifth' when you are just reporting that your wife hasn't returned from an early morning walk pretty much means that you know exactly where she is and what has happened to her - did he go looking - no because he knew it was a waste of time - she was far far away from the search area

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    This is what has always been missing... the fact that there has never been any cry outs from the BC's "Please, please find whoever did this to our Allison." If GBC was innocent, or if his family really thought he was, then we would have seen their pleads, but we haven't. IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigT View Post
    Consider for a moment the evidence so far is weak. He might be guilty of a lot of things and is certainly accused of just about anything in this forum, but, he is on remand and is not convicted of a crime yet. What is the behavior anyone one in jail that really should not be there?

    So what has not been offered up from GBC side of the story is a plausible excuse for who did it. Put yourself in his place, would you be screaming for whoever did it to flush them out?

    What sort of turn up would it be to find that NBC is the one and was at the house to follow up on being called bwanna or something or was accused of covering up affair, and GBC won't dob him. Part of knowing someone is guilty is knowing that no one else did it. Possibilities are still there.
    Yes, Yes, Yes......I do think GBC did it. but......NBC ring's lot's of bell's for me.......have alway's thought it may have been him (NBC)....we have heard of his arrogant short fuse personality.......hmmmmmmm


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    Quote Originally Posted by ollijack View Post
    Yes, Yes, Yes......I do think GBC did it. but......NBC ring's lot's of bell's for me.......have alway's thought it may have been him (NBC)....we have heard of his arrogant short fuse personality.......hmmmmmmm
    It is possible... but if that's the case then GBC is going to have to answer to his kids as to why he thought his fathers wellbeing was anymore important than their mothers.

    For him to 'take the blame' for something his father did, makes me think that they really believe he will get off. It is also an awful lot for any parent to expect their child to pay the price for them.

    Personally, I'm still going with GBC did it, but his father either helped or knows exactly what happened. Anymore than that, I'm not sure of. Not sure of who else might be involved. But 'daddy' a sure thing for me. IMO

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    If my son was arrested for something that I KNEW he didn't do I'd be shouting from the rooftops "You're wasting time here, the real killer is still out there!! PLEASE stop looking at my son, and find the real killer." Plus, I'd be heartbroken for the loss of his wife, and for the fact that my son could spend his life in jail for something he didn't do. Plus, I'd be hurting over the fact my son has just lost his wife and is now being accused of her murder and in pain for my grandkids that they're losing BOTH parents. There are sooooo many things come into play here. I couldn't function.

    In this case, it's more a "How can we get him off? Best if we shut our mouths and hope for the best."

    Where is the anguish and pain? Where is the desperation to find who really committed this crime? I guess there's not much you can do when you know they have the right person and all you have left is to try and get them off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigT View Post
    Consider for a moment the evidence so far is weak. He might be guilty of a lot of things and is certainly accused of just about anything in this forum, but, he is on remand and is not convicted of a crime yet. What is the behavior anyone one in jail that really should not be there?

    So what has not been offered up from GBC side of the story is a plausible excuse for who did it. Put yourself in his place, would you be screaming for whoever did it to flush them out?

    What sort of turn up would it be to find that NBC is the one and was at the house to follow up on being called bwanna or something or was accused of covering up affair, and GBC won't dob him. Part of knowing someone is guilty is knowing that no one else did it. Possibilities are still there.
    Interesting idea however it doesnt make sense for gbc to take the fall for nbc.
    nbc is getting on in age so his years are definitely numbered. gbc on the other hand has a young family and many years yet still. he also has tm to run off to. I cant imagine him taking the wrap for his dad or the rest of the family letting him.

    On a lighter note - nbc (according to his realestate profile) sees himself as a "big game hunter". he likes to put his victims on a wall, not in a creek bed. all qps would have to do is check the local dry cleaners and see if his safari suit has been put in to be cleaned around the time of the murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by linette View Post
    If my son was arrested for something that I KNEW he didn't do I'd be shouting from the rooftops "You're wasting time here, the real killer is still out there!! PLEASE stop looking at my son, and find the real killer." Plus, I'd be heartbroken for the loss of his wife, and for the fact that my son could spend his life in jail for something he didn't do. Plus, I'd be hurting over the fact my son has just lost his wife and is now being accused of her murder and in pain for my grandkids that they're losing BOTH parents. There are sooooo many things come into play here. I couldn't function.

    In this case, it's more a "How can we get him off? Best if we shut our mouths and hope for the best."

    Where is the anguish and pain? Where is the desperation to find who really committed this crime? I guess there's not much you can do when you know they have the right person and all you have left is to try and get them off.
    Linette....you are absolutely spot on.....xxxxx

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    Quote Originally Posted by linette View Post
    If my son was arrested for something that I KNEW he didn't do I'd be shouting from the rooftops "You're wasting time here, the real killer is still out there!! PLEASE stop looking at my son, and find the real killer." Plus, I'd be heartbroken for the loss of his wife, and for the fact that my son could spend his life in jail for something he didn't do. Plus, I'd be hurting over the fact my son has just lost his wife and is now being accused of her murder and in pain for my grandkids that they're losing BOTH parents. There are sooooo many things come into play here. I couldn't function.

    In this case, it's more a "How can we get him off? Best if we shut our mouths and hope for the best."

    Where is the anguish and pain? Where is the desperation to find who really committed this crime? I guess there's not much you can do when you know they have the right person and all you have left is to try and get the

    off.
    So true! They haven't done ANY of these things. Personally i think they're too scared to even attempt any of the above scenarios because they will be seen through straight away as 'acting'. What a shame that lack of appropriate response to situations can't be analyzed by experts and used 'to an extent' as evidence. I know that is what happened to Lindy chamberlain and that was dreadful, but there are so many examples of 'strange' behavior exhibited by the BC clan that I think cumulatively if they were read out to a jury, there wouldn't be much doubt.

    All just my opinion (and anybody who can breathe me thinks) of course. MOO etc

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