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    Quote Originally Posted by garryb View Post
    I would like to clear a few things up about what happened in Texas.
    First and foremost, no one knew anything about murder, kidnapping, or Mickey, or Lisa.
    The story that was told to his bio 1/2 sister was that someone borrowed his truck, then used it in some sort of gun running scheme in which there were witnesses. His story was that he was afraid, since he was a felon, that he would be charged with being involved, of course he said he didn't have anything to do with it, but he had to get rid of the truck to keep from going back to prison. He asked her to come and pick him up from the area where his truck was burned. He went back to her house and spent the night, then the next morning reported the truck stolen.
    The day BSL went back to work, LE was on her doorstep asking questions. When they told her what was suspected, she was mortified, along with all of us. She cooperated with them 100%. She allowed her home to be searched, turned over pictures he had sent her of the truck burning, turned over pictures he sent her of his wounds, an told them everything he did and said. She was listed on the discovery documents by initials. Her statements were key to the Grand Jury in returning the indictment.
    BSL's stories were all about his innocence to everything, including his stay in prison. He was framed for having consensual sex. She believed everything he said. Gullible, yes. Complicit, no way!
    She also gave him a ride to the car rental agency, where he rented a car.
    LE knows everything he did, according to them. They said they had been tracking his every move for weeks. I'll leave that to you to decide if they were lying to her when they said that, but they told her a few things that haven't been disclosed that leads me to believe them....
    In the future, I would appreciate it if you would discontinue trying to find her home address. I really would not prefer having Nancy Grace on her front doorstep with TV camera's.
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    We are all mortified by what has happened here. Everyone here has a bleeding heart for the victims families. Our heart truly bleeds for them all. Brandon has deceived us all. IMO he is just a "bad seed". He had a large family, both adopted and biological that loved him and treated him so. His adoptive family, to my knowledge, was not abusive to him. He was involved in a lot of lives that trusted him, even though he didn't deserve such trust.



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    Quote Originally Posted by garryb View Post
    I would like to clear a few things up about what happened in Texas.
    First and foremost, no one knew anything about murder, kidnapping, or Mickey, or Lisa.
    The story that was told to his bio 1/2 sister was that someone borrowed his truck, then used it in some sort of gun running scheme in which there were witnesses. His story was that he was afraid, since he was a felon, that he would be charged with being involved, of course he said he didn't have anything to do with it, but he had to get rid of the truck to keep from going back to prison. He asked her to come and pick him up from the area where his truck was burned. He went back to her house and spent the night, then the next morning reported the truck stolen.
    The day BSL went back to work, LE was on her doorstep asking questions. When they told her what was suspected, she was mortified, along with all of us. She cooperated with them 100%. She allowed her home to be searched, turned over pictures he had sent her of the truck burning, turned over pictures he sent her of his wounds, an told them everything he did and said. She was listed on the discovery documents by initials. Her statements were key to the Grand Jury in returning the indictment.
    BSL's stories were all about his innocence to everything, including his stay in prison. He was framed for having consensual sex. She believed everything he said. Gullible, yes. Complicit, no way!
    She also gave him a ride to the car rental agency, where he rented a car.
    LE knows everything he did, according to them. They said they had been tracking his every move for weeks. I'll leave that to you to decide if they were lying to her when they said that, but they told her a few things that haven't been disclosed that leads me to believe them....
    In the future, I would appreciate it if you would discontinue trying to find her home address. I really would not prefer having Nancy Grace on her front doorstep with TV camera's.
    Wow!!! Thank you for sharing this *inside information* with us. It really answers a lot of questions about the whole truck burning situation!!! It also underscores the fact that "BS" Lavergne is an accomplished liar.

    This makes me question the details in his confession. How much of it is true? Only God, Mickey, and Lisa and Lavergne know.



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    Quote Originally Posted by FrayedKnot View Post
    I am just still in awe that a woman as small as Mickey put a hurtin' on that slack jawed yokel like she did.

    She had to have been terrified, but she fought with everything in her and nearly did him in.

    Maybe some nice fella in Angola will finish what brave Mickey started.....
    FrayedKnot, doubt there are too many nice fellows incarcerated at Angola..

    Although a proponent of the death penalty, and salute the prosecutor for the strategy used to spare the Schunick family & LA community, years or decades of pain & expense. My thoughts and emotions are all over the board on BSL.

    Psychopathic sadistic predators/serial killers, begin their evil deeds once crossing that threshold from fantasy to acting them out in reality.

    The facts indicate that BSL was a psychopath and imo, actually enjoyed killing for the sake of doing it. Power and dominance over their unsuspecting victims are what most serial killers crave. Ultimate control; the power of life and death over others. It is what quenches the thirst of predators like BSL.

    BSL may not have been an evil genius. He seems to have been a garden-variety murderer with a hidden agenda of making himself famous, imo. Due to Mickey Shunick's courageous fight, abruptly ending his evil trail of terror. Guess, we will never know.

    Notoriety is the predators ultimate goal. Imo, BSL wanted to be a household name.

    BSL was dealt a very harsh blow and should have to live with the torment of knowing that hero Mickey Shunick has instead, become that household name..


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    Quote Originally Posted by BayouBecky View Post
    I was watching the news last night, and something struck me as odd (and for some reason, slightly funny in a hysterical but not humorous way) -- They said that usually the inmates are simply walked across the street to the courthouse, but that wasn't the case yesterday. Apparently the street was blocked off and BSL was transported in a car from one garage area to another to minimize his time "out in the open." My husband snorted and said "well, duh, of course they don't want someone to off him before he pleads guilty." I don't know why but I got a laugh from that, as well as the feeling of "why should they care so much about this monster?"

    I can't get it out of my head that Mickey is physically gone, and he's still here. Everything that she hoped and dreamed for, everything her family hoped and dreamed for, taken away by the selfishness of this one person. Of course, her memory will live on, and because of her bravery, BSL is off the streets. It doesn't feel like justice in any sense of the word, though. I know, I know, life isn't fair. That makes me think of this quote from a tv series:

    "I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, 'wouldn't it be much worse if life *were* fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them?' So now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe."

    I hope that Mickey's family can find some comfort, somehow. I've been upset and trying to rationalize it since yesterday, and failing, and know that they are struggling even more. The tattoo that her mother has is a wonderful reminder of this beautiful woman, and I suspect that there will be an upsurge in people getting memorial type tattoos. I'll admit I considered getting a tiny bicycle done as a reminder of that quote about Mickey staring down the monster, and knowing that I can too.

    I'm sorry this post is all over the place. I'm just unable to string things together coherently at the moment. There's so much I want to say, and so little I can do.
    You my girl, sweetie..
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    Mickey's mom shows off her tattoo in memory of her daughter:

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    Just so you know....
    He sent her a letter from jail also. In that letter he proclaimed his innocence, even though the letter was dated after he must have confessed. She didn't get the letter until a couple of days ago. In that letter he stated "I can't believe what I am reading that you told the police, after all we have been through. After this is all said and done, we shall never speak of this again. I forgive you". This guy is a perpetual liar, even to those he was closest to.



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    Quote Originally Posted by garryb View Post
    Just so you know....
    He sent her a letter from jail also. In that letter he proclaimed his innocence, even though the letter was dated after he must have confessed. She didn't get the letter until a couple of days ago. In that letter he stated "I can't believe what I am reading that you told the police, after all we have been through. After this is all said and done, we shall never speak of this again. I forgive you". This guy is a perpetual liar, even to those he was closest to.
    Gary, it took a great deal of fortitude & courage for you to post the past few weeks.

    Sometimes truth is like the sunlight going into a prism. The refraction takes it in different places, shows different colors. Deep thanks to you for showing us your light. It must be agony to show how yours was deflected.

    May God keep you & your family safe & strong in the time ahead.



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    Quote Originally Posted by garryb View Post
    We are all mortified by what has happened here. Everyone here has a bleeding heart for the victims families. Our heart truly bleeds for them all. Brandon has deceived us all. IMO he is just a "bad seed". He had a large family, both adopted and biological that loved him and treated him so. His adoptive family, to my knowledge, was not abusive to him. He was involved in a lot of lives that trusted him, even though he didn't deserve such trust.
    Without her help, he wouldn't be where he is and Mickey might never have been found. She did the right thing and thank you for letting us know and not worry he had an accomplice. That's good to know. Question, and if too personal, don't answer. Does BSL and his half sister have the same Father? Just curious. Thanks again, praying for your family.
    "You are free to choose, You are not free from the consequences of your choices."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahouston69 View Post
    Without her help, he wouldn't be where he is and Mickey might never have been found. She did the right thing and thank you for letting us know and not worry he had an accomplice. That's good to know. Question, and if too personal, don't answer. Does BSL and his half sister have the same Father? Just curious. Thanks again, praying for your family.
    His two half sisters have the same mother, different fathers. BSL's bio father was a prominent business man that was married and had an affair with BSL's mother. When he found out she was pregnant, he dumped her. She chose adoption instead of abortion.



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    Quote Originally Posted by redcrow View Post
    Forgive me if these things have been addressed, but I just can't keep up with all of the information:

    1. Still can't help but wonder how he dumped his vehicle and got back to his sister's house in TX... anyone have any concrete info on this?
    2. Evidentiary hearings are usually used when the defendant will not be available down the road; since there is a strong feeling BSL was involved in other possible abductions/murders, ie: TX abductions, would this be why they rushed this thru?

    JMO: As he walked to the courthouse, I saw a bully with plenty of attitude... his psyche saying, they deserved it because they hurt me in some way... POS he is to me from day one.... a disgusting human being...

    I think of that beautiful fighting angel and it tears me apart. She had so much life to give and it was stolen from her. Was she put here on this Earth to bring justice to Lisa and maybe many others? She is a hero in my eyes and I will always have her imagine emblazoned in my mind as someone to believe in, have faith in and pray to to give me strength at times that I just don't know if I can go on....

    Okay... I'm done ... just wanted more thoughts....
    RE: Evidentiary hearings are usually used when the defendant will not be available down the road; since there is a strong feeling BSL was involved in other possible abductions/murders, ie: TX abductions, would this be why they rushed this thru?

    'Redcrow, the prosecution strategy used in BSL's case has been around since the prosecution of the Green River Serial Killer: Gary Ridgeway, almost a decade ago & seems to be the trend over the past few years.

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    Has anyone heard of any legal precedence for this? Do we have a lawyer or PA on here? I suppose if he did this, it would circumvent any appeals? Hopefully...

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    Not a lawyer, but have researched missing/murdered investigations & prosecution strategies for years. The strategy that is indicated in serial killer BS Lavergne's prosecution is the Green River/Kings Co., WA, strategy used almost a decade ago.

    * "Assistant District Attorney Keith Stutes is taking a no-holds-barred approach, .... Imo, the strategy being used to prosecute BS Lavergne, is straight from the playbook of the Gary Ridgeway prosecution(Kings county,WA)"
    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8271556"]New Developments and General Discussion, 08/10/2012 - Page 48 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

    A possible preview of tomorrow's evidentiary hearing, imo..
    Gary Leon Ridgway (born February 18, 1949) is an American serial killer known as the Green River Killer, convicted of 48 separate murders and confessed to nearly double that number.

    As part of a plea bargain wherein he agreed to disclose the whereabouts of still-missing women, he was spared the death penalty and received a sentence of Life imprisonment without parole.

    " King County Prosecuting Attorney Norm Maleng explained his decision to make the deal:
    “ We could have gone forward with seven counts, but that is all we could have ever hoped to solve. At the end of that trial, whatever the outcome, there would have been lingering doubts about the rest of these crimes.

    This agreement was the avenue to the truth. And in the end, the search for the truth is still why we have a criminal justice system ... Gary Ridgway does not deserve our mercy. He does not deserve to live.

    * The mercy provided by today's resolution is directed not at Ridgway, but toward the families who have suffered so much .

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THrOcsxxsCg&feature=player_embedded"]Gary Ridgway 5/5 - YouTube[/ame]


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    Quote Originally Posted by mommyof6 View Post
    I've read pretty much every post on this thread and have not seen anything about the friend he called in NOLA. Is he not considered an accomplice even though he supposedly knew what happened and helped BSL out?
    Where have we heard that he knew what happened and helped BSL out? Maybe I missed this info?


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    Quote Originally Posted by garryb View Post
    I would like to clear a few things up about what happened in Texas.
    First and foremost, no one knew anything about murder, kidnapping, or Mickey, or Lisa.
    The story that was told to his bio 1/2 sister was that someone borrowed his truck, then used it in some sort of gun running scheme in which there were witnesses. His story was that he was afraid, since he was a felon, that he would be charged with being involved, of course he said he didn't have anything to do with it, but he had to get rid of the truck to keep from going back to prison. He asked her to come and pick him up from the area where his truck was burned. He went back to her house and spent the night, then the next morning reported the truck stolen.
    The day BSL went back to work, LE was on her doorstep asking questions. When they told her what was suspected, she was mortified, along with all of us. She cooperated with them 100%. She allowed her home to be searched, turned over pictures he had sent her of the truck burning, turned over pictures he sent her of his wounds, an told them everything he did and said. She was listed on the discovery documents by initials. Her statements were key to the Grand Jury in returning the indictment.
    BSL's stories were all about his innocence to everything, including his stay in prison. He was framed for having consensual sex. She believed everything he said. Gullible, yes. Complicit, no way!
    She also gave him a ride to the car rental agency, where he rented a car.
    LE knows everything he did, according to them. They said they had been tracking his every move for weeks. I'll leave that to you to decide if they were lying to her when they said that, but they told her a few things that haven't been disclosed that leads me to believe them....
    In the future, I would appreciate it if you would discontinue trying to find her home address. I really would not prefer having Nancy Grace on her front doorstep with TV camera's.
    Thx so much for the information. That clears so much up for me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chicken fried View Post
    I have been wondering for awhile about pepper spray and whether some people are immune. Doing some checking on the web just now, I find lots of anecdotal evidence that some people are. That bothers me, knowing that pepper spray seems to have become the #1 self-defense weapon of women in America. To me, that's like carrying a revolver with an empty chamber.

    What triggered these thoughts is my own experience with chile pequin peppers. We've been growing them in my mom's family for over 100 years, since the originals were brought from Mexico by my great-grandfather. We use them to spice up things like white beans, and make hot sauce out of them. My mom's family will throw six of them in a big pot of white beans, and then try to keep track of the free-floating peppers, and warn guests to be careful that there may be a pepper in their food.

    I always laugh and say, "why don't y'all put them in a tea ball?" But my mom's family are stubborn like mules (so is my dad's - go figure) and so at family gatherings I call it "B******* Bingo" (B****** being her maiden name). You hear someone suddenly start hollering, and I announce really loud, "well now there's FIVE peppers left in the pot."

    Those things are HOT. One time my Paw Paw ran out of crab boil for a big party and so he decided to throw a bunch of peppers in the pot - and then had to throw all the crabs out!!!

    When I pick them I have to THOROUGHLY wash my hands. When one handles them at all, one has to THOROUGHLY wash, and under no circumstances touch one's face, eyes, or anything else, due to the resulting pain.

    One time I brought some to a friend's house and his son had some young friends over. One kid bragged how he could eat any pepper, and to bring him the bag. I tried to reason with him but he wouldn't listen and chewed up one-half a pepper - then started almost crying and scrubbing his tongue, and was in intense pain for 30 minutes and couldn't even eat his dinner.

    All this is to set up that yes, pepper spray works. But now explain to me my one cousin who can throw them in her mouth and eat them like jellybeans. Explain the Mexican cousin who laughed at us when we told him to be careful, and ate 12 in a row without even breaking a sweat.

    I have to conclude that some people are immune. I don't know what percentage, and I don't know the mechanism, but I know that this is true.

    It makes me wonder what percentage we're dealing with, and whether pepper-spray manufacturers can study this and somehow alter the formula to defeat the immunity. A revolver with an empty chamber can put one in a lot of danger. I'm not saying that BSL is immune, but I wonder about degrees of immunity. If she got him good, especially while driving, why didn't he crash and/or have to pull over? No way to know. But this makes me wonder if there's anything more effective.
    exactly why i do not mess with pepper spray. i've heard it can blow in your face. i've heard it can not be effective, etc. so i just think you should get a gun and be will trained with it. although unfortunately laws will restrict where law-abiding citizens can have them to protect themselves, but obviously not convicted felons like BSL


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    Just want to reiterate some dates from my earlier post today, adding an extra date - in hopes that this will help piece together some parts of the puzzle for other possible victims/missing person cases that could be connected to "BS" Lavergne, including Ali Lowitzer:

    February 25th, 2000 - BSL incarcerated

    August 9th, 2008 - BSL released from prison

    February 10th, 2010 - BSL released from parole supervision

    Monday, April 26th 2010 - Alexandria “Ali” Joy Lowitzer goes missing in Spring, Texas.

    Unsure of the exact date, but BSL has a house fire - can anyone fill in the blanks?

    July, 2010 - BSL bought property and mobile home in Bayou Ridge subdivision, St. Landry Parish



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