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    MN State football coach Todd Hoffner charged with using own children in sex videos

    The Details Of Minnesota State Head Football Coach Todd Hoffnerís Child Porn Charges Are Horrifying (Deadspin)
    Minnesota State head football coach Todd Hoffner's been charged formally with felony counts of using his own children in a sexual performance and possession of child pornography, and the details outlined in the charges are unpleasant to read. The videos, featuring three children under the age of ten, were allegedly found on Hoffner's school-issued phone when a university employee attempted to back it up or repair it. From Mankato's Free Press:

    A one-minute video created on June 26 showed the three children, one boy and two girls, with their backs to the camera and covered by towels, the complaint said. They drop the towels and turn toward the camera, exposing themselves. The boy allegedly fondles himself and the girls allegedly bend over and expose their anuses to the camera.

    A much shorter video showed the girls dancing naked before the boy enters wearing only a football helmet, according to the complaint. The third video, about two minutes long, allegedly shows one of girls being woken at night by a male and told to go to the bathroom. After the girl gets up, the camera focuses in on the back side of her underwear, the complaint said.
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    more at the Deadspin link above, and here:

    Charges filed against MSU coach Hoffner (Mankato Free Press)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfgodot View Post

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    yeah, the atty says that there is nothing sexual about the videos described in the article! wtf? throw his azz in prison too ...

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    O Lordy!!! WTH is wrong with people? That is so disgusting!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nervous_nellie View Post
    yeah, the atty says that there is nothing sexual about the videos described in the article! wtf? throw his azz in prison too ...
    Yeah... Maybe then this lawyer would like this coach to spend some alone time with the lawyer's own kids...

    And take some of the very same "not sexual" pix with them!

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    A crisp "no comment" would have served the defense better at this time, I would agree.

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    Dare I ask if there's a Mrs. Hoffner? Annnnnnnd a naked boy wearing only a football helmet? Really?


    Oh there is a Mrs. and she's a school counselor/therapist.

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    Bless their hearts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Filly View Post
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    Dare I ask if there's a Mrs. Hoffner? Annnnnnnd a naked boy wearing only a football helmet? Really?


    Oh there is a Mrs. and she's a school counselor/therapist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Filly View Post
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    Dare I ask if there's a Mrs. Hoffner? Annnnnnnd a naked boy wearing only a football helmet? Really?


    Oh there is a Mrs. and she's a school counselor/therapist.
    I just watched a video of her making a statement and she seems very genuine when she says they were innocent home videos. As for her being a school counselor...

    She described their children as close knit, open, engaging, and creative. "I am a licensed school counselor and I am fully aware of the signs and indicators of children who have been abused," she said. "I assure you our children have not been exploited or abused -- they are healthy physically, mentally and emotionally; and have normal relationships with friends, family and teachers."

    http://www.startribune.com/local/167557495.html?refer=y

    The above link has the video of her speaking if anyone wants to watch it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chili Fries View Post
    I just watched a video of her making a statement and she seems very genuine when she says they were innocent home videos. As for her being a school counselor...

    She described their children as close knit, open, engaging, and creative. "I am a licensed school counselor and I am fully aware of the signs and indicators of children who have been abused," she said. "I assure you our children have not been exploited or abused -- they are healthy physically, mentally and emotionally; and have normal relationships with friends, family and teachers."

    http://www.startribune.com/local/167557495.html?refer=y

    The above link has the video of her speaking if anyone wants to watch it.
    I believe there are innocent pics and videos of children naked taken by parents who never thought twice about it being "sexual". Babies, toddlers getting a bath, getting dressed or just having just escaped thier diapers and clothing (like my kids did, lol) and innocent parents who grabbed their cameras to catch the cutest pic ever. Most of us have pictures like this that we treasure.

    I don't know if naked pictures of a child over the age of toddler is appropriate to anyone else but I don't think it is. Now 15 years ago I would have thought that if people had pics of their kids naked it was no big deal as long as it was of thier own kids because who would hurt thier own children?

    Sadly, I've learned that many people are evil even to thier own children, and if this guy was charged Im confident that LE saw more to the pics than just a father catching a streaking 1 year old. Naked siblings together that were the age of these kids, a boy fondling himself, and girls bent over doesn't sound so innocent IMO. But thats just me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckyswife View Post
    I believe there are innocent pics and videos of children naked taken by parents who never thought twice about it being "sexual". Babies, toddlers getting a bath, getting dressed or just having just escaped thier diapers and clothing (like my kids did, lol) and innocent parents who grabbed their cameras to catch the cutest pic ever. Most of us have pictures like this that we treasure.

    I don't know if naked pictures of a child over the age of toddler is appropriate to anyone else but I don't think it is. Now 15 years ago I would have thought that if people had pics of their kids naked it was no big deal as long as it was of thier own kids because who would hurt thier own children?

    Sadly, I've learned that many people are evil even to thier own children, and if this guy was charged Im confident that LE saw more to the pics than just a father catching a streaking 1 year old. Naked siblings together that were the age of these kids, a boy fondling himself, and girls bent over doesn't sound so innocent IMO. But thats just me
    No, it's not just you. I agree with everything you said.

    My girls are 14 months and 5 years. They spend a lot of time on the front porch in the kiddy pool. My 5 yr old is usually in her panties and the baby in a diaper. I always have my camera phone with me but I NEVER take any photos of my 5 yr old like that, only the baby. With the way the world is today, you just canít chance it. 1st I donít want her half naked photos to end up in any pedophiles hands and 2nd it isnít worth loosing either child because of truly innocent photos.

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    I believe those videos are innocent family pictures for family use only. Don't you think if they were meant to be child porno that he would have deleted them before taking the phone to a college IT???? I know we seem to have an epidemic of child porno, sexual abuse, incest, engendered by the Informaton Highway, but normal, ordinary people take naked pictures of their children and mean no harm by it.

    Well meaning people who have seen way too much of the nasty side of life, made a faulty decision here, IMO.

    (snipped)from the Star Tribune link above.

    Melodee Hoffner offered an explanation for the video showing her daughter walking to the bathroom, saying that the girl has "difficulty during the night," so she and her husband wake her to use the bathroom. Hoffner said the daughter would be half-asleep when they woke her and would not remember, so the parents took video to show her. Melodee Hoffner said her daughter was clothed in that video.

    No other images or evidence has so far been found other than that on the phone.

    This is my opinion and I'm sticking to it unless I see a lot more evidence to prove guilt.

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    I don't really know what exactly to think with the info we've been give. I think his wife is probably sincere when she says that she doesn't believe anything inappropriate happened. And I think her job as a school counselor is in the family's favor.

    I did notice that in her statement that she only talked about the video where her daughter was clothed, though. She didn't talk about the videos that show the children naked. But, according to reports, the two naked videos are only one minute and less than one minute in length. And in the one minute video, the children have on towels when the video starts. They are naked dancing in the third video, which is described as much shorter than a minute.

    So maybe Melodee doesn't know what her husband is really like, maybe he has preyed on his children. But I could also see the short lengths of the naked videos and her explanation of the clothed video as evidence that they are plausibly harmless. Obviously anything else found, or not found, on any device used by Todd will factor in as well. It's a very interesting case and a tragedy either way...either the children have been victimized by their father or a good family has been subjected to horrific accusations.

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    I am wondering how LE learned of these allegedly "innocent, family" videos in the first place.

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