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    UK - Stranger (Female) gives babies bottles of bleach in London street

    This awful news is just breaking

    Parents are being given urgent warnings after two babies were understood to have been given bottled "bleach" by a woman on Eltham High Street.

    Police said the bottled substance, believed to be bleach, was given to at least one or two children in a branch of McDonald's.

    One child drank the substance and immediately vomited it up - police said the child was well after the incident.
    .......
    It is thought the parents were eating at a table in the restaurant with the child in a pushchair next to them.
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    She was described by officers as a "heavily built woman with white hair aged in her 50s".
    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...s-8135248.html

    For those not familiar with the UK, Eltham is a busy South London suburb - very down to earth

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    Oh my...as a parent you nowadays have to watch your child closely at all times. This world gets childunfriendlier by the minute. Gladly the babies are ok and i hope that psycho gets caught soon..!!!

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    I just posted this in another thread of a mod can merge or delete.

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    Elaine Joyner, 53, of Deptford, south-east London, is charged with administering a poison or noxious substance so as to endanger life - but Judge Andrew Lees ruled today that she was unfit to plead.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...McDonalds.html

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    wow. How psycho can you be to give random babies BLEACH to drink?
    “Every day that they don’t find something is good for me.“ Billie Dunn

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    June 2013:

    The judge told the jury: ‘In this case the defendant has been found by me to be unfit to stand her trial.

    ‘I have decided on the evidence of two specialist medical practitioners, one instructed by the defence, one by the prosecution, that she is mentally ill, such that she cannot understand the proceedings, cannot understand the evidence, and cannot give valid instructions to her legal team.’

    It was appropriate that she did not attend, he added. In such circumstances, there would not be a finding of guilty or not guilty, but the jury should decide whether she did the act she was alleged to have done.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...McDonalds.html

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    July 2013:

    Prior to the latest incident in September, the court heard Joyner, from Deptford, south-east London, had thrown a two-year-old girl against a shop window, pushed a one-year-old boy to the ground at a hospital and slapped an 18-month-old child across the face at a bus stop.

    Today a judge said Joyner was a 'danger' to very young children and posed a 'serious risk' to the public...

    She was given a hospital order that she be detained under the Mental Health Act at Bethlem Royal Hospital in Beckenham, Kent, and placed under an indefinite restriction order 'to further protect the public'.

    Joyner, who was declared unfit to plead at a previous hearing last month, had been found by a jury to have committed the bleach poisoning act..

    In court today consultant psychiatrist Kiriakos Xenitidis said Joyner suffered from a developmental disorder, learning disability, a potential autistic condition, as well as a mental disorder which has psychotic and depressive features.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...er-window.html

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    July 2013:

    She had also attacked children in 1997, but the bleach attack represented "a worrying escalation of violence", Woolwich Crown Court heard.

    She was 'obsessed' with children and still poses a risk.

    Joyner has been treated at the secure Bethlam Hospital since the attack, where she has been treated for mental health problems.

    The court heard that she has learning difficulties, is believed to be on the autism spectrum, and has a delusional disorder.

    Prosecutors said she had a "preoccupation" with children and experts agreed she continues to pose a real risk to the public.
    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...s-8698108.html

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    January 2014 interview with the mother of the child:

    But what terrified Samantha most of all was the fact that Joyner had a long history of harming small children. In 1997, she had tried to hit a group of young children in the street where she lived and in March 2011, she pushed a one-year-old boy to the ground in a hospital. That June, she picked up a two-year-old girl and threw her against a shop window and in July of the same year she slapped an 18-month-old child across the face at a bus stop.

    Despite her violent past, Joyner – who suffers from a developmental and mental disorder – was being cared for in the community. "I'm furious," Samantha says. "Not at Elaine Joyner, because she was clearly seriously ill, but at the authorities for letting a dangerous woman free to hurt children again and again.

    "It took Jonjo's life being threatened before they did anything to stop her."
    http://m.reveal.co.uk/real-life-stor...th-bleach.html


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    July 2013:

    Elaine Joyner, 53 (12.9.59), of Vaughan Williams Close, Deptford, was detained yesterday, Monday 8 July, at Woolwich Crown Court under Section 37/41 of the Mental Health Act after being found guilty of administering poison with intent to endanger life and grievous bodily harm.

    Orders under Section 41 are without limit of time – Joyner will not be discharged without the permission of a tribunal and the Secretary of State for Justice.
    http://crimeandjustice.co.uk/2013/07...bleach-eltham/



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