09-21-2012, 11:08 AM #1
LA - Clarence, BlkMale UP846, 18-30, in creek off U.S. 84, Oct'05
The attached image is a composite but looks like a real photograph! They are getting good now.
ME/C Case Number: J-00506-05/LSU 05-34
Natchitoches County, Louisiana
18 to 30 year old Black/African American Male
Date found October 16, 2005
Found in a shallow creek just off US 84.
Height (inches) 68, Estimated
Estimated postmortem interval 1 Years (note Doenetwork says 1-25 years - http://doenetwork.org/cases/1422umla.html)
Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only
Last edited by DippyBlonder; 09-21-2012 at 11:20 AM.
09-21-2012, 11:13 AM #2
Missing since July 9, 1995 from Avondale, Jefferson Parish, Louisiana. - match
Date Of Birth: June 6, 1976
Age at Time of Disappearance: 25 years old - match
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'6"; 125 lbs. - match
Distinguishing Characteristics: Black male. Black short hair; brown eyes. Medium brown complexion.
Tattoos: Tattoo on the left hand with the letters "HDP".
Dentals: Five upper gold crowns. (damage to UID teeth, were these ripped out?)
Clothing: White Reebok shirt, black Girbaud shorts, black Jordan tennis shoes, white footie socks, also a watch with a blue band and blue and chrome face.
There is no mention of a necklace on either the UID or Johnny but look at the necklace worn in both photographs.
Timing could be out depending on how good the estimated date of death is (though 1 to 25 years is a pretty big range!)
I've submitted this.
PS. I'm numerically dyslexic so please bear with me, I'm really struggling with this... date of birth to date of disappearance - wouldn't that make him 19 not 25?
Last edited by DippyBlonder; 09-21-2012 at 11:27 AM.
09-21-2012, 11:38 AM #3
Doe Network has an error in the age when missing, he was born 1976 and disappeared 1995 so he was 19, not 25. Charley has it right. But it's still a match.
He looks good to me.
Four and a half hours away. Not too far to drive for drugs I guess.
The only thing is that Babino disappeared in 1995 and if he met with foul play back then the UID might have had imo a surprising amount of identifiable clothing for someone whose remains spent a decade in a shallow creek. Namus estimates the TOD at one year.
Medium size Hanes boxer shorts and an unidentifiable, cotton-blend, greenish-blue item, possibly a shirt or jacket with a drawstring collar or hood.
09-21-2012, 11:44 AM #4
Appreciate the calculations, I couldn't get my head around it.
Doenetwork has a bit more information:
The victim was located in a shallow creek just off US 84, encased in cement inside a metal drum.
09-21-2012, 01:31 PM #5
Johnny Babino's Namus page https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4044/3
says he has DNA available. Wonder if his DNA is in the database. In that case it might be a ruleout by default.
Otherwise the dentals might be an easy ruleout. The UID has several F's towards the back of the mouth in his upper dental chart indicating the presence of fillings or crowns but I think if he had any gold crowns present they might have been likely to mention it in the verbal description.
I tried to search for another photo of Johnny Babino that would give a better view of the front teeth to see if there is gold in them but everybody seems to have the same photo.
09-21-2012, 02:28 PM #6
Just had confirmation that it's not a match.
Also the The postmortem interval is less than a year so Doe is wrong.
11-16-2012, 02:12 PM #7
Not close matches, but possibilities?
Eddie Albert Bunion
William Larry Roland
11-18-2012, 06:03 PM #8
Maybe Brian Hatfield? He went missing from Baton Rouge in May 2004 when he was 21.
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Andrew Hargrove - findthemissing.org/cases/9678Who was Walker County Jane Doe?
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