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  1. #1
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    IL - John Katsilieris, 17, Oak Park, 15 Aug 1985

    John P. Katsilieris, 17, missing 15 August 1985 from Oak Park, IL

    John Katsilieris
    Missing 15 August 1985
    From Oak Park, IL

    Vital Statistics

    Age: 17
    DOB: 4 February 1968
    Sex: Male
    Hair: Light Brown
    Eyes: Blue
    Height: 6 ft 2 in
    Weight: 160 lbs

    Source
    National Center for Missing and Exploited Children
    Hotline: 1-800-843-5678

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    Interesting links

    Hi everyone-

    This is my first post here, and I just wanted to check if anyone has seen these?

    http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2009...trying-to.html

    http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/mpch/Un...sp?id=U8710001

    Both pages are about a "John Smith" that was found dead in 1986 at a motel in Dallas, TX. The person that was found matches a lot of John P. Katsilieris' description and I thought the forensic sketch even looked like him.

    Here's his missing in California page with pics: http://missingincalifornia.com/johnkatsilieris1985.html

    Came across this case the other day on the center for missing and exploited children website, and noticed he(John K.) left his house and took five guitars with him. Sounds like he was going to try to go to California to start up a career in the music business. It has been said on some sites that he was seen in Orange County, CA a day or so after he left Illinois...but by who?

    Seems like a lot of details are missing. Has anyone else been following this one, or know anything else?

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    Welcome to WS twofourniner!

    I thought I recalled discussing or seeing John discussed here previously. Though, I'm probably recalling another case not far from Oak Park, IL.

    In any case, John was brought up for a possible match to this UID back in 2010. I just don't know if he was ever submitted.

    Here is the link to the thread discussing John as a possible match to the TX UID.

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...ht=Katsilieris

    You can inquire on the above thread.....

    I am going to see if I can find this UID on NamUs to see if John is listed as a rule out.
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    Here is John's NamUs page:

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/6255/0/

    According to NamUs his dna is on file.

    There are two cases out of Dallas on male UID's in 1986. Both have so little information they are listed as little possibility of identification and neither have any rule out's listed. Will have to try and find some other means of looking for more info. I think it looks like a very good possibility. Especially due to the initials on the wallet. A lot of monograms had the first initial being the largest in the middle. I don't know what the initials looked like on this wallet, but it's possible someone gave the wallet as a gift and did the initials the same way some shirts and rings are monogramed.
    ~JMO~

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    Thanks so much! I read through the other thread that you posted the link for as well and there were indeed others who thought the same thing I did about that motel UID being Katsilieris, but there wasn't any clear indication of anyone in there submitting it for comparison to any law enforcement agencies.

    I was going to post something in there until I saw your post here just now. I really do think there could be a connection even though the UID was in Texas and not California. He(Katsilieris) could have been trying to get away from a failed music career in California, didn't want to disappoint his family, went as far away from California as whatever money he had could take him, and committed suicide in that motel.

    I don't know how John Katsilieris arrived in California, or if he was with anyone else, so I don't know if anyone is aware of who saw him in California as many reports suggest. My question is, if he was seen there(Orange County, CA), does that mean he was seen by someone he knows whom he was to stay with and then disappeared after that? Or does it mean he was seen by someone in an airport terminal, motel, or something like that?

    If we knew that it may be a little easier to theorize what could have happened to him.

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    Just found out in a round about way that apparently John was ruled out by DNA for that particular unidentified person we are talking about here found in TX.

    Here is the link:
    http://z10.invisionfree.com/usedtobe...howtopic=52107

    Anyone on here from Oak Park that knew John? Perhaps a friend of a friend knew him? I would think someone else is wondering what happened to him..I mean... am and I'm a complete stranger! Just seems like a case worth looking
    into. He left for California with some guitars and never came back or made contact with anyone(family/friends) again. Is there more to the story?

    For instance-

    Did he travel to California by plane, train, bus, car?
    Was he with anyone?
    Who saw him in Santa Ana and was that a confirmed sighting? Such as, did this person speak with him or something to that effect.
    Why did he go to California?
    Did he go to California against the wishes of his family/parents?
    Was he going on a trip to visit someone and stay in California for awhile or did he travel there to stay more long term and live on his own? Was someone expecting him in California?

    These items that could help in a case like this are missing in the details. At least in the info that is available to average folks it is. I'd have to say the answers to some of those questions are known by someone.

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    I JUST came across the John Doe in the Hotel that Hung himself today and said omg he looks like the missing IL guy!!!.. even the initials on the Wallet are close... I really think they should do DNA testing again.. or ask his Family if they remember the wallet.. he had only left not even 1 year. Do they have any postmortem photos or photos of his belongings available. I don't know.. I know that they have been cases that things go wrong or things get mixed up.. but I really believe the Hotel John Doe Smith Is actually John Katsilieris. is there any more information on this? does anyone else believe the hotel John is the same as this John? who submitted the DNA?

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1244umtx.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by madamx View Post
    I JUST came across the John Doe in the Hotel that Hung himself today and said omg he looks like the missing IL guy!!!.. even the initials on the Wallet are close... I really think they should do DNA testing again.. or ask his Family if they remember the wallet.. he had only left not even 1 year. Do they have any postmortem photos or photos of his belongings available. I don't know.. I know that they have been cases that things go wrong or things get mixed up.. but I really believe the Hotel John Doe Smith Is actually John Katsilieris. is there any more information on this? does anyone else believe the hotel John is the same as this John? who submitted the DNA?

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1244umtx.html
    I believe Katsilieris has been ruled out in that case.

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    Hi this is my first post and I know this is really reachy but I can't help but suspect that he is the 1986 Ontario John Doe (or alternatively the 1986 San Bernardino John Doe). I live in a town neighboring Ontario and even though the heights and weight don't match up quite perfectly it's worth a suggestion. Mr Katsilieris was going to travel to California with guitars and well this John Doe may have been unidentified because Mr. Katsilieris was originally from Oak Park, Illinois. Mr. OJD was found pretty decomposed and died from a beating. I don't want to make a suggestion yet but I feel its not too bad of a guess. The only real thing holding me back is dental records, the OJD had kind of messed up teeth but there aren't any dental records available for Mr. Katsilieris and the height difference. Thank you for reading.



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