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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxfire View Post
    For sanity reasons, the family has to hold on to hope...imo.

    Sheriff Wyatt, and all three TBI spokespersons repeated these faulty conclusions with every news update. This perceived hypothesis ignored all the many obvious indicators of a stranger abduction by an experienced sexual predator, imo.
    Ironically, and sadly, these conclusions are exactly what Holly's abductor
    was banking on..
    I believe at the time all evidence pointed to a local and not a random lucky perp who just happened on the Bobo property. Even now, the family still believes it is someone who knew of Holly's routine which would lead one to conclude that the theory of the perp being local is still up there on the list. Water bottles distributed at the homeless shelter is another indication.

    We have to look at the list of theories and start narrowing it down to the most probable to the least probable given what we know. Of course, we don't know everything the family and LE know but it's all we can do based on what was put out there to the public.

    As with any case, the ones closest to Holly have to be cleared in order to move on to the next theory.

    We assume Mom, dad, brother were ruled out even though it hasn't been officially announced.

    Next would be the boyfriend. Same as above

    Next would be extended family and friends, ex boyfriends.

    Next would be acquaintances. Coworkers, school mates, neighbours, etc

    If all of the above have been ruled out, we go into the stranger did it.

    I wonder where investigators are.

    IMO
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    So, here's kinda how it goes.
    Provided that you are CERTAIN that you are at the PLS (place last seen) and a good scent article is being used and dogs are set on the trail and they lose it in a very short distance before you hit the edge of the property; there are really only 2 conclusions you can draw. Either she is still on the property or the dogs/handlers missed it (possibly because of training focuses). So, then, you simultaneously ensure that she is nowhere on the property and you bring in more dogs. Again training comes in to play here, and working out from the home can be tough, especially for dogs that are of the police variety. This is because there is an enormous residual scent pool at a home, 1 trail, laid over another and another and another so to speak, and police dog training focuses on tracking down a suspect, which generally is not happening from their residence, but the scene of the crime, so a much cleaner scent trail.


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    Been thinking today about how they got the tip to recover the cell phone. Was it just a genre real search on an Easter Sunday? Or did somebody call it in?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxfire View Post
    OT- Salute to the Canadian Border Patrol..

    RSO Predator Merle Dean Shamblin; Trucker
    http://www.wwnytv.com/news/local/Flo...148549885.html

    Although Shamblin doesn't to fit the physical description of Holly Bobo's abductor, according to CB. Some of the info that I have been learning about him is very concerning, imo. According to the article, Shamblin took his computer to a Florida repair shop in 2010. The info, that I am learning indicates that the photos & other evidence found on his computer by the technician are very damning, imo..

    More than 900 images of child pornography were found on the computer, the newspaper reported.


    Trucker Predator/SK Adam Lane, would park his big rig at truck stops & walk into nearby neighborhoods to attack victims.
    Shamblin, also a trucker, hauled vehicles and had access to them for increased mobility. His routes were nationwide..


    http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/off...personId=80614





    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32274027.../#.UGiH4k3Ae8A

    Stranger in the house


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    Sadly it also would not surprise me at all if this guy inserted himself into the searches early on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ~n/t~ View Post
    I'll start off by saying I didn't see that episode so I'm just going by what has been posted here.

    My understanding is Mark F was told by LE there was no scent into the woods and not something he made up for sensationalism.

    If true then either Clint's version was wrong, the dogs were wrong.

    If Clint's version was wrong perhaps the perp had a vehicle much closer to the home than we think. Hidden.

    If the dogs were wrong then I have no clue considering they had a fresh blood scent from Holly. These were FBI dogs from what I remember.

    IMO
    He heard it from LE but it was a dispatcher. Not exactly someone who knows the exact details of the investigation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by EnBrown View Post
    It's my understanding the dogs lost the scent when the woods meet the Swan (Something) Road. Which leads you to believe there was an "exit" car waiting there.
    That's my understanding as well, but I think it is all, including Fuhrman, much speculation/rumor and nothing confirmed by LE.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxfire View Post
    Holly was not a child. She was 21. This guy is into child porn. I don't see a connection? Am I missing something?
    Justice for Holly Bobo🎀


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    Quote Originally Posted by EnBrown View Post
    Been thinking today about how they got the tip to recover the cell phone. Was it just a genre real search on an Easter Sunday? Or did somebody call it in?
    My understanding is it was a general volunteer search just like the previous ones.

    The RUMOUR is the call went to Karen and not LE about the find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarx View Post
    Sadly it also would not surprise me at all if this guy inserted himself into the searches early on.
    I totally agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reedus23 View Post
    Thanks for going back and pulling that. I was fairly certain he admitted it was just a dispatcher he had talked to. I'm not sure what case signal is, but I think that the quotes you kindly provided are accurate representations of what was said by Fuhrman.
    In very small towns like this I bet the dispatcher hears lots more information then in metropolitan type areas.

    I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the source. The LE has told nothing to the public...but they probably talk amongst themselves at the station. I will assume it is a very small station...and dispatcher is close by.


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    She was wearing flip flops ( so we were told) and entering what we hear are very thick brambled woods. We were told that some dogs had to be carried. I would think they would find something of hers if she went into the woods. How far into the woods is this logging road? Were they any fresh tracks on the road?

    I haven't got a clue about the lunch bag. Was it tossed from a vehicle? They won't say anything. Sure, there's a pic but it doesn't show the spot and distance from the road. Why not an exact location? I mean specific. If the perp tossed it, where's the dna? Was their blood on the bag...I read there was..fact? Anybody's guess. LE has never told one thing about the case.

    This case is way too frustrating on so many levels. It is the only case I've heard of where you have an eye witness and LE arriving within x10 minutes, blood found and nobody has a clue of what is going on with the case.

    ...I'm betting Mark Fuhrman's source is correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarx View Post
    So, here's kinda how it goes.
    Provided that you are CERTAIN that you are at the PLS (place last seen) and a good scent article is being used and dogs are set on the trail and they lose it in a very short distance before you hit the edge of the property; there are really only 2 conclusions you can draw. Either she is still on the property or the dogs/handlers missed it (possibly because of training focuses). So, then, you simultaneously ensure that she is nowhere on the property and you bring in more dogs. Again training comes in to play here, and working out from the home can be tough, especially for dogs that are of the police variety. This is because there is an enormous residual scent pool at a home, 1 trail, laid over another and another and another so to speak, and police dog training focuses on tracking down a suspect, which generally is not happening from their residence, but the scene of the crime, so a much cleaner scent trail.

    sarx, would spreading cayenne pepper around an area or on a grave render search or cadaver dogs ineffective?


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    IF there was blood on the bag and blood in the garage...it even seems more strange she walked into the woods. Since she knew Clint was home, why not keep screaming for help?

    A female screaming should wake up most people....especially out in the wilderness. She should have been screaming "help". Why didn't the neighbor help her? Why was his 0800 appt to put in a sink more important? Whey does everyone call Karen when there is trouble? Even the cell phone find was relayed to karen first. Why not call dana?

    What is Dana's dynamics within the family? Why are the men not front and center? The neighbor, clilnt are both passive with this story...and Clint calls his mom, not his dad. The neighbor who heard the screams calls his mom and doesn't pursue the damsel to help.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ~n/t~ View Post
    wfgodot, maybe we can add a homeless hobo to the list of theories?

    Still need some time to digest this piece of information
    Will do when we accumulate three or four more out-of-the-box-ers.

    Just catching up now. Missed a day.


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