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    FL - Thomas Fleming & Autumn Ash for child rape, Deltona, 2013

    http://www.wesh.com/news/central-flo...z/-/index.html


    A 22-year-old Volusia County man accused of repeatedly raping a 4-year-old girl and recording the acts with his cellphone is now also accused of sexually abusing a 7-month-old, and his ex-girlfriend has also been charged.

    Thomas Fleming was arrested in Deltona Friday night after the disturbing images and video were found on his ex-girlfriend's cellphone.
    Deputies said when they questioned Fleming, he admitted to having sex with the child and sending the images.

    Investigators said they now have evidence Fleming also repeatedly assaulted the 7-month-old and the ex-girlfriend is involved.

    Sheriff's investigators arrested 20-year-old Autumn Ash Monday night.

    Investigators said Ash admitted performing sex acts on a 7-month-old and took pictures of the sexual assault.

    Authorities said Ash told them Fleming would send her the images and they would text each other and talk about sexual fantasies involving the 4-year-old.

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    4 YEARS OLD.
    Not 14, not 24.
    In what world does someone "admit to having sex with" a 4 year old.
    He raped her. Period. I wish the news would consistently say that.

    http://www.wesh.com/news/central-flo...z/-/index.html

    Deputies said when they questioned Fleming, he admitted to having sex with the child and sending the images.

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    So sick...I hope those monsters aren't the parents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsFacetious View Post
    4 YEARS OLD.
    Not 14, not 24.
    In what world does someone "admit to having sex with" a 4 year old.
    He raped her. Period. I wish the news would consistently say that.

    http://www.wesh.com/news/central-flo...z/-/index.html

    Deputies said when they questioned Fleming, he admitted to having sex with the child and sending the images.
    To their credit, in their opening sentence they make it clear this POS repeatedly raped this child.

    I think the difference in wording was actually purposeful - all the better to highlight the actual act (1st sentence) and the "admissions" by the POS that he "had sex with her" on numerous occasions.

    In other words, I think the minimization of the act is the perp's, not the reporters.
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    Are these their children or someone elses?

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    Deputies said Fleming had taken cell phone photos of him with the girl and then sent the photos to the cellphone of a woman, who was his girlfriend at the time.

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...lusia-deputies

    Investigators identified the second victim, a 7-month-old baby girl, and Ash admitted that she and Fleming had taken pictures of the baby and performed sex acts on her on multiple occasions.

    After abusing the baby, Ash said she and Fleming would then have sex.

    http://www.news-journalonline.com/ar...aby-young-girl

    now the below linked article DOES pizz me off and for the very reasons cited by MsFacetious above. Not once is the act refereed to as RAPE in the below linked.

    http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/...ing-sex/nSHt9/
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    I can't find either one on Facebook....or perhaps I'm not searching right.
    Pretty creepy tho to look at the video in the first link posted. It has toy cars in front of the house. Also the video says that only by luck they found those pictures, while they raided the house for narcotics.

    That woman/girl looks so normal, I'd never thought she would be a person to do such a thing...I know stupid comment, but in my head people who do this look different.

    So disturbing

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    I may have found her but am not sure enough to link it. If it is hers, there is nothing to be gleaned there, just a a few photos of what I think is her with her female friends/peer group
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    Hm I'm not sure but I think saw that too, now that you mention group. Him not tho...

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    What, what, what in the name of all things sacred in this world is wrong with these people? There were comments at one link they knew the guy from school and could not believe he'd do such a thing. Comments on Miss Boo Freakin Hoo cry baby mugshot she was not well liked, but certainly no baby rapist. So what happened?

    Honestly at what point does your boyfriend tell you he rapes children and you get in on it and text about it?

    Defective POS both of them that have no place in society. Not one child, but two. Two littles who have now been harmed because of these louses.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zafina View Post
    Hm I'm not sure but I think saw that too, now that you mention group. Him not tho...
    She claimed to be a server at a restaurant that we'd definately bring children to.

    I hope somebody in lockup slaps them tears off her face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsFacetious View Post
    4 YEARS OLD.
    Not 14, not 24.
    In what world does someone "admit to having sex with" a 4 year old.
    He raped her. Period. I wish the news would consistently say that.

    http://www.wesh.com/news/central-flo...z/-/index.html

    Deputies said when they questioned Fleming, he admitted to having sex with the child and sending the images.
    I agree! This is not just a case of semantics. Having sex with someone is not the same as raping them. You CANNOT CANNOT CANNOT have sex with 4 yr old and 7 month old children!!! I can't understand why it's written up this way in almost every case I read about.

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    Pure luck they caught these two. Hope they get lengthy, consecutive sentences.

    The woman will probably claim he forced her to participate. That defense did not work for this woman, she got 2 consecutive life sentences + 20 years:

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...ight=vanvlerah

    This woman got 125 years, but I don't think we have a thread on her:

    http://www.wlfi.com/dpp/news/crime/s...ld-molestation

    (good videos at link; statements by victim's parents)

    ETA: I found the thread:

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...samantha+light
    Last edited by PHB; 10-01-2012 at 10:05 PM. Reason: added link to WS thread

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    She cant use the excuse of being forced, she even fantasize about one of the poor children by texting...gag

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    They should be Jerry Sandusky's cellmates.




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