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    Blog talk radio show 10-3-12

    Looks like they are gonna do something on Hailey.. it's been a while since anything about her has been on blog talk... i know Bee used to do them.. not sure who's gonna do this one though.

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/hailey_...es-and-friends

    Anyway thought I'd give everyone a heads up I will not be home to listen unfortunately

    I think about you daily Hailey

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    Not what I expected. It's not the Bring Them Home ladies. I listened to some of last night and am listening live now. A lot of bashing LE (probably with some merit for CC/Mitchell County Police) and a lot of suspicion thrown on Clint and Naomi.

    Billie has changed her viewpoint about Shawn. When she was asked about him telling LE that Hailey was promiscuous, Billie said that Shawn told her he didn't tell LE that, but now she says that she doesn't necessarily believe him because Shawn lies all the time. She also says she's realized Shawn's verbal rage with the way he's treated her and David (calling him) since they broke up. I think it was the host (I'm not sure exactly who, somebody probably knows) that talked about how Shawn basically threatened her on Facebook...saying that Shawn was angry about something she said about him and his cousin Cory, so Shawn messaged her that she should meet him and Cory in person if she wasn't a coward.

    What mystifies me is that now Billie sees how Shawn is an angry liar, but she still doesn't seem to really suspect him. She'll say how he has a rage problem and then defend him at other times.

    It's a tough listen, a lot of it is the personal attacks on different family members, the type that's surrounded this case on Facebook.

    Another interesting thing, Billie said that Hailey spent the night at MB's almost every night until a month before Hailey went missing. Billie says she's ready to contact MB's mom now (she felt uncomfortable about it before), and to talk to people who saw Hailey last. Says she feels stronger now because she has people behind her, pushing her to do this stuff.

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    Also says MB's uncle lived MB's family and is an RSO. I can post his name if it's OK. Maybe it's been posted before, I can't remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chili Fries View Post
    Another interesting thing, Billie said that Hailey spent the night at MB's almost every night until a month before Hailey went missing. Billie says she's ready to contact MB's mom now (she felt uncomfortable about it before), and to talk to people who saw Hailey last. Says she feels stronger now because she has people behind her, pushing her to do this stuff.
    snipped- just wanted to clarify what I heard-

    Billie had said Hailey spent the night at MB's maybe one or 2 times, and the question was when was the last time she had prior to missing. And Billie said it was probably a month before. She DID say that Haily spent the night 'all the time' with her best friend HR. And another girl L, a few times. And too , that Hailey would have slumber parties at the house.

    FWIW at least Billie is talking there, and on FB
    we shall see huh

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    Quote Originally Posted by sreshowtime View Post
    snipped- just wanted to clarify what I heard-

    Billie had said Hailey spent the night at MB's maybe one or 2 times, and the question was when was the last time she had prior to missing. And Billie said it was probably a month before. She DID say that Haily spent the night 'all the time' with her best friend HR. And another girl L, a few times. And too , that Hailey would have slumber parties at the house.

    FWIW at least Billie is talking there, and on FB
    we shall see huh
    Thanks for the correction, sreshowtime, I wasn't totally sure about what Billie said.

    Some other things that stuck out to me about the parts of the shows I've listened to...there was an RSO renovating a house close to Billie's, but he was wearing a tracking ankle bracelet at the time.

    Also, they talked about Kyle Guthrie, who will stand trial today for solicitation of a minor online. He worked for a Big Spring radio station and made videos of searches for Hailey. I doubt he had anything to do with Hailey's disappearance though.

    Some other stuff I remember...Billie said LE showed her the phone Hailey had and she saw that a call was made at noon but she didn't see who was called (and of course she check that before LE got the phone and she never got the records from her phone company). She also said the guy who owns property across from Shawn's grandmother didn't let LE search it.

    Listening to these shows did make me suspect Shawn more, based on the stuff I described in my earlier post.

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    I still remember her words and actions all through out the investigation....and how she put Haley aside more than a few times for her Shawnnnyyy boy. Too bad lady....go suck an egg for all I care about what you have to say NOW. Pft...#!$#$&*

    Still thinking and wondering where you are little Haley. <3

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    Thanx chili fries & sreshotime for listening & recapping.
    Luv that billie has not felt comfortable.not even in the immeadiate days following her daughter being "disappeared"did she ever go ask people about Hailey. Such a weasle to now say she just might go do that. Kind of disingenious to throw MB into the mix as you try w/ all your might to mislead everyone as to the real issue, which to me is "what happened the night before?"
    All I say is keep talking billie. Please. Luv that she skirts around lies that shawn tells cuz she knows not to go all out imo. Don't want to make him to irate but has to get jabs in. Luv it.
    I just want 1 of them to go on a bender & go off. Out loud in front of witnesses. I hate that billie is still trying to drum up attention for herself. Why doesn't she get comfortable pyhsically searching the areas her liar exboyfriend drove to that monday. Is she comfortable now to really get down to finding her daughter? Just pathetic. Imo
    In my mind, MB's mom is like "come on billie let's do this" I would not be a happy mother to have my child thrown into the mix of billie/shawns hell then to have all this precious time elapse and now billie's ready to talk about her daughters last day?? Why does she not talk about shawn lying about work that day.? Or what billi & shawn did that Monday evening? Much less what really happened the night before.? Srry I know I'm rambling she just makes me crazy mad.

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    it's a doozy all right, out there in social media world
    ...but let them keep talking ...just saying

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    Nothing happened the night before. Evidence suggests that whatever happened, happened the evening HD dissappeared. The preponderance of evidence also suggests that neither BD or SA had anything to do with it. They are not nice people, but then neither is anyone else associated with this case. That doesn't make them guilty. At the end of the day if we are sleuthing this, we need to go on the evidence that is presented, not how we feel about the character of the people involved. You can't simply ignore evidence because it doesn't conform to your stereotype of the characters involved. A sleuther needs to go where the evidence leads them, not collect evidence to support a preconcieved scenario.

    People are getting to caught up with what SA was doing that morning, when whatever he was doing appears to be irrelevant. He could have been clubbing baby seals for all we know, but whatever he was doing does not appear to be related to HD.

    Pretty much all of the suspicion about SA comes from two sources:

    1) The LE affidavits which are clearly constructed in order to get a warrant, not to demonstrate guilt. They selectively included evidence that suggested incrimination while ignoring evidence to the contary, the "deer in headlights" part is an example of this. LE are allowed to do this for an affidavit, as long as they don't actually lie. Which is why you need to take whatever is in them with a pinch of salt.

    2) BD's rambling. Right from the start it has been obvious that BD is one of those people who takes a little bit of information and "fills in the blanks" with conviction. So much of what she has said has turned out to be not quite so, you can't take anything she says as actual fact - mostly it seems to be half a fact and the rest fiction, based on what she expects rather than what she knows. Her version of whatever needs to be taken with that same pinch of salt. You can't select some of what she says as fact and other things as fiction depending on whether or not whatever she says agrees or disagrees with your theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tugela View Post
    Nothing happened the night before. Evidence suggests that whatever happened, happened the evening HD dissappeared. The preponderance of evidence also suggests that neither BD or SA had anything to do with it. They are not nice people, but then neither is anyone else associated with this case. That doesn't make them guilty. At the end of the day if we are sleuthing this, we need to go on the evidence that is presented, not how we feel about the character of the people involved. You can't simply ignore evidence because it doesn't conform to your stereotype of the characters involved. A sleuther needs to go where the evidence leads them, not collect evidence to support a preconcieved scenario.

    People are getting to caught up with what SA was doing that morning, when whatever he was doing appears to be irrelevant. He could have been clubbing baby seals for all we know, but whatever he was doing does not appear to be related to HD.

    Pretty much all of the suspicion about SA comes from two sources:

    1) The LE affidavits which are clearly constructed in order to get a warrant, not to demonstrate guilt. They selectively included evidence that suggested incrimination while ignoring evidence to the contary, the "deer in headlights" part is an example of this. LE are allowed to do this for an affidavit, as long as they don't actually lie. Which is why you need to take whatever is in them with a pinch of salt.

    2) BD's rambling. Right from the start it has been obvious that BD is one of those people who takes a little bit of information and "fills in the blanks" with conviction. So much of what she has said has turned out to be not quite so, you can't take anything she says as actual fact - mostly it seems to be half a fact and the rest fiction, based on what she expects rather than what she knows. Her version of whatever needs to be taken with that same pinch of salt. You can't select some of what she says as fact and other things as fiction depending on whether or not whatever she says agrees or disagrees with your theory.
    RBBM, Tuglea. I am not aware of any evidence that clears Hailey's mother or her boyfriend. I am eager to hear what this evidence is that I've been ignoring. Can you please be a bit more specific? TIA.
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    Since Billie has decided she wants to actively get involved in finding answers for what happened to Hailey, and since her eyes have been opened about Shawn, I know one vital thing she can do...she can write down everything about Shawn that might in any way conceivably be pertinent to the case and submit that to investigators (the Rangers or FBI), being as honest as possible (even if it's painful). And then be willing to do follow-up interviews with law enforcement if they have questions. She knows Shawn better than anyone.

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    Who are these people ? Do I not watch facebook enough?

    Russel and angelina?

    I made myself find time to listen to this blog for Hailey and for Hailey I feel awful that the only support she seems to have is from this type of non productive whatever that was. Not to insult anyone for the efforts but asking Billie about rumors started by P.T or talking about how bright S.A may or may not be is not going to help anyone find Hailey. A few things were interesting but not overly helpful and highlights the attitude that has made this case as drama filled as it has been. Talk fast and loosely about whoever is also talking fast and loose. (moo)

    Why hasnt anyone asked Billie about what she thought then and what she thinks now about what happened to her daughter and who is responcible for that and how many different things in her and Haileys life support one theory verse the other? What has she seen or heard or what sticks out to her now that might not have in the first months and year. What are some details that stand out in her mind? What does she think the Hotel hit is about. What does she thinks about the earing and Naomi and why does she second guess S.A. but only slightly.

    So if anyone ever gets to call into a blog please ask her these things. How is Billie feeling NOW about Brian about the hair dresser sightings or other witness reports . What does she think is real verses rumor in her daughters case? Is she hopeful? Has she spoken with Connie J recently or Ricky . How is the whole family contributing to the efforts of finding Hailey and is there still stuff LE or the Rangers have asked her not to mention to the public or other family members?

    I think had the media and LE not turned fast on Billie this case could have went alot farther than nowhere. MOOOO

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    I just don't get the point to this show? It did nothing to advance the search for Hailey. It was a bunch of disconnected thoughts, noone introduced themselves and the lady with the rough voice seemed to yell over everyone....what a train wreck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tugela View Post
    Nothing happened the night before. Evidence suggests that whatever happened, happened the evening HD dissappeared. The preponderance of evidence also suggests that neither BD or SA had anything to do with it. They are not nice people, but then neither is anyone else associated with this case. That doesn't make them guilty. At the end of the day if we are sleuthing this, we need to go on the evidence that is presented, not how we feel about the character of the people involved. You can't simply ignore evidence because it doesn't conform to your stereotype of the characters involved. A sleuther needs to go where the evidence leads them, not collect evidence to support a preconcieved scenario.

    People are getting to caught up with what SA was doing that morning, when whatever he was doing appears to be irrelevant. He could have been clubbing baby seals for all we know, but whatever he was doing does not appear to be related to HD.

    Pretty much all of the suspicion about SA comes from two sources:

    1) The LE affidavits which are clearly constructed in order to get a warrant, not to demonstrate guilt. They selectively included evidence that suggested incrimination while ignoring evidence to the contary, the "deer in headlights" part is an example of this. LE are allowed to do this for an affidavit, as long as they don't actually lie. Which is why you need to take whatever is in them with a pinch of salt.

    2) BD's rambling. Right from the start it has been obvious that BD is one of those people who takes a little bit of information and "fills in the blanks" with conviction. So much of what she has said has turned out to be not quite so, you can't take anything she says as actual fact - mostly it seems to be half a fact and the rest fiction, based on what she expects rather than what she knows. Her version of whatever needs to be taken with that same pinch of salt. You can't select some of what she says as fact and other things as fiction depending on whether or not whatever she says agrees or disagrees with your theory.
    Actually my suspicion about Shawn began, from what I found on the internet. His own postings and words.

    From there, it grew due to his odd behavior during the time Hailey disappeared. You have to admit, when and how he quit work that morning, then lied to Billie about it was ...

    I could go on and on with examples, but why bother?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOMDET View Post
    I just don't get the point to this show? It did nothing to advance the search for Hailey. It was a bunch of disconnected thoughts, noone introduced themselves and the lady with the rough voice seemed to yell over everyone....what a train wreck!
    Welcome, would like to read more on your insights and opinions on this case.

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