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    FBI involvement or lack thereof

    Let's talk about the FBI's involvement in the case/s or lack thereof.

    http://articles.cnn.com/2011-12-20/j...?_s=PM:JUSTICE http://skcentral.com/news.php?readmore=191 http://babylonvillage.patch.com/d/topics/gilgo+beach

    According to what I've read so far the FBI's involvement has been limited to the use of Blackhawk helicopter for the arial search and psychological profiling. They are reportedly frustrated by SCPDs unwillingness to accept or ask for help in solving these crimes. What is your take on this?

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    Why wouldn't SCPD open there arms when the FBI has offered their help and resources?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justiceforever View Post
    Why wouldn't SCPD open there arms when the FBI has offered their help and resources?
    Possibly because they are afraid of what the FBI might find in their department that isn't regulation or lawful???? If the FBI were to dig deep, they might find something SCPD wants to stay hidden??? JMO/MOO
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    Fbi

    "NEW YORK (CBSNewYork/AP) — The FBI has asked a court for permission to search a computer belonging to a man under scrutiny for his ties to a prostitute whose body was discovered along with three other corpses near a Long Island beach. Feds Probing L.I. Beach Corpses Eye Laptop

    Gilgo Beach Victims (Photo/Kathleen Maloney)

    An agent filed an application Thursday seeking access to a laptop belonging to Akeem Cruz, of Brooklyn. Cruz is one of the last people to have been with 22-year-old Megan Waterman, of Maine, the weekend she disappeared after traveling to a hotel in Hauppauge to meet clients for sex."
    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/03/...es-eye-laptop/



    and another mention...

    Now investigators want a peek into Cruz's laptop, which he gave to a female friend after he was busted in October on a drug charge, court records show. She gave the laptop to Suffolk County investigators and the FBI late last month. The feds sought a search warrant to go through its contents with an "abundance of caution," the document said.
    http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011...uz-gilgo-beach

    I hope the FBI were able to get their tentacles into some of the POI's machines....
    That would give them a good head start.
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    The fbi - it all depends

    Quote Originally Posted by Justiceforever View Post
    Why wouldn't SCPD open there arms when the FBI has offered their help and resources?
    If SCPD has something to hide the last people they want looking at this case is the FBI. Not that the FBI is any great shakes either. If SCPD has done ANYTHING wrong they don't even want the janitor around.

    I hate to keep doing this, but the SIL is a classic of how they operate. I always believed the case should be a textbook on corruption in SCPD, or more specific to Spota and his band of little gangsters.

    Follow the bouncing ball.

    1. cops bring in a Peter Ghattas and he gives them information about a serial criminal named Joe Careccia.
    2. Careccia was Chief of Department Burke's neighbor from 1998 -2002
    3. Cops bring Ghattas in to DA office on 9/23/03.
    4. Ghattas is murdered on 9/24/03.
    5. cops go to Florida to fetch Careccia- 10/23.
    6. 11/13/03 - Careccia is in NY and he tells investigators the SIL participated in the armed robbery of a Strathmore Bagel Co on 7/25/00. SIL was in Europe - 7/18-7/27.
    7. Careccia will place SIL at other crimes. SIL is still and active PO and on extended sick leave.
    8. SIL is allowed to retire on 3.15.04 with a disability pension.

    OK, got it? I reviewed his entire personnel folder. There was NOTHING in it that even remotely suggests Internal Affairs was informed of his alleged serious criminal acts. He will never see the inside of a IAB interview room. In fact he will be allowed to leave the Department with his weapons and receive a 'good guy' letter by the IDIOT Dormer praising him for his good service. The PBA will have his shield stamped as retired.

    Are you starting to get the picture ? These criminals didn't want to get their own IAB involved because they feared if the IAB got involved they would uncover the corruption. SCPD would be obligated to inform IAB there was a dirty cop in the ranks. THEY DID NOT. They were leaving the door open to frame the SIL and they sure didn't want any 'outsiders' getting in their way.
    If they didn't want their own IAB around what do you think about getting the FBI involved in the Gilgo Case........LOL

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    Hawk forgive my ignorance but whats an SIL?

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    So is it completely up to the SCPD if the FBI gets involved or can the FBI just take over if they wanted? I can understand SCPD not wanting them involved, but if the FBI CAN just take over, why haven't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justiceforever View Post
    So is it completely up to the SCPD if the FBI gets involved or can the FBI just take over if they wanted?
    From my understanding, the SCPD has to invite the FBI in. As far as the FBI's involvement to date, it does the SCPD no good if it isn't put to use.

    I haven't looked at the articles you've posted, yet, but if you saw it... when did the FBI use the Blackhawks? Was it before or after finding SG's body?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mysterymom7 View Post
    From my understanding, the SCPD has to invite the FBI in. As far as the FBI's involvement to date, it does the SCPD no good if it isn't put to use.

    I haven't looked at the articles you've posted, yet, but if you saw it... when did the FBI use the Blackhawks? Was it before or after finding SG's body?
    They used it when they were searching Gilgo Beach. Heres an article about it. http://www.newsday.com/news/breaking...logy-1.2829587


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    I agree with Hawkshaw and others, SCPD and LE does not want this case fully investigated. Just too many skeletons.

    I think the only way it will be resolved is the result of media and politically pressure. What a number of sleuthers are doing with FOIL, and letters is exactly what needs to be done.

    I also believe that Newsday, a newspaper, that in the past has operated to the highest journalistic standards, get to the bottom of the apparent corruption in Suffolk County.

    Newsday has an obligation to its readers to let them know the truth about Long Island.

    BTW there is a serial killer loose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justiceforever View Post
    So is it completely up to the SCPD if the FBI gets involved or can the FBI just take over if they wanted? I can understand SCPD not wanting them involved, but if the FBI CAN just take over, why haven't they?
    No, the only places where the FBI (or any Federal law enforcement agency for that matter) can just show up and take over are American Indian reservations and US territories - as both of those entities are possessions of the Federal government. A state of the Union is a sovereign entity as per the 10th Amendment.

    The only other way the Feds could get involved is if a Federal offense was committed ... ie: if the killer committed a murder in another state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WI1987 View Post
    The only other way the Feds could get involved is if a Federal offense was committed ... ie: if the killer committed a murder in another state.
    I wonder if that is why the SCPD declared the Atlantic City case wasn't related. If they don't have solid (forensic) evidence of who did it, how can they be sure it isn't the same person?

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthspider View Post
    I wonder if that is why the SCPD declared the Atlantic City case wasn't related. If they don't have solid (forensic) evidence of who did it, how can they be sure it isn't the same person?

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    Aha! That would make a LOT of sense!

    Thanks, WI!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WI1987 View Post
    No, the only places where the FBI (or any Federal law enforcement agency for that matter) can just show up and take over are American Indian reservations and US territories - as both of those entities are possessions of the Federal government. A state of the Union is a sovereign entity as per the 10th Amendment.

    The only other way the Feds could get involved is if a Federal offense was committed ... ie: if the killer committed a murder in another state.
    So, if the same person killed in two different states the feds would take over...but if they only kill in one state they wont?

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