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    Texas school district, community at odds over student tracking badges

    Published On: Oct 11 2012 07:28:47 AM EDT

    A student locator project at a San Antonio high school could be extended to as many as 112 schools.

    The “Student Locator Project” tracks students whereabouts using embedded radio-frequency chips on student ID badges.
    http://www.clickondetroit.com/commun...z/-/index.html

    This is supposed to improve safety, reduce truancy and track the number of students.

    In my day they usually tracked the number of students by looking around the classroom and seeing who all was there but that is so outdated now, isn't it?

    (My inner juvenile delinquent instantly latched upon a couple of scenarios in which truancy would become easier if the school starts to rely too much on seeing an ID badge registered in the computer instead of seeing an actual child attached to it.)

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    Why is this even controversial? (I'm not saying it's foolproof, Donjeta, but you and I both knew how to skip out of school "back in the day".)

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    They ciuld get a friend to carry the badge to classes or lose their badge if theh want to skip, unless the school is going even more tech by installing baddge swiping devices in each class. I don't blame some for being upset about tracking devices. It 's most likely about money and loss of funding due to truants.

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    Lol, at figuring out ways to trip the system. Children today have more computer knowledge than most of us do. I would have just left it in the bathroom, not the best idea though.

    The problem I have with any tracking devices is that it makes the child (or even yourself) a sitting duck to a computer savvy predator. A lot of these predators learn their computer skills in jail and can hack anything. This is the point no one is looking at. If I were a parent there, I would not have my child wearing a tracking device. We would have to find another school.

    You can simply call attendance at the beginning of each class. It is up to your staff to be accurate, forget the $$$.

    Unless I have included a link, it is my opinion and only my opinion that I am expressing.

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    OK...I'm going to show my ignorance here (isn't it refreshing to admit that right up front??)...why would someone have an issue with this? Unless you felt that it put some harmful radioactive waves into your child, or you were concerned that your school employed pedophiles who could use it to their advantage?

    I saw a snippet of a father on TV saying that it violated his child's religious freedom. That was all the news played, so I have no idea what he's talking about.

    Thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oh_gal View Post
    OK...I'm going to show my ignorance here (isn't it refreshing to admit that right up front??)...why would someone have an issue with this? Unless you felt that it put some harmful radioactive waves into your child, or you were concerned that your school employed pedophiles who could use it to their advantage?

    I saw a snippet of a father on TV saying that it violated his child's religious freedom. That was all the news played, so I have no idea what he's talking about.

    Thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.
    I'd have a huge problem with it. It's a blatant invasion of privacy.

    Based on what I've read, yes schools do employ pedophiles.

    IMO it's like using the argument if you have nothing to hide and have done nothing wrong what's the big deal if the police search your house without a warrant.

    The government can't keep track of the pedophiles they keep putting back on the street, yet want to track our children for money?

    It's wrong, wrong, wrong...

    I don't know if this is true or not...but I've read in the news articles that for 30 dollars anyone can file a Freedom Of Information Act request and receive the name of every child and their address in the school district.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda7NJ View Post
    I'd have a huge problem with it. It's a blatant invasion of privacy.

    Based on what I've read, yes schools do employ pedophiles.

    IMO it's like using the argument if you have nothing to hide and have done nothing wrong what's the big deal if the police search your house without a warrant.

    The government can't keep track of the pedophiles they keep putting back on the street, yet want to track our children for money?

    It's wrong, wrong, wrong...

    I don't know if this is true or not...but I've read in the news articles that for 30 dollars anyone can file a Freedom Of Information Act request and receive the name of every child and their address in the school district.
    Here is one of many news articles stating for 30 bucks anyone can get any child's name and address in the district.

    http://www.salem-news.com/articles/o...microchips.php


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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda7NJ View Post
    I'd have a huge problem with it. It's a blatant invasion of privacy.

    Based on what I've read, yes schools do employ pedophiles.

    IMO it's like using the argument if you have nothing to hide and have done nothing wrong what's the big deal if the police search your house without a warrant.

    The government can't keep track of the pedophiles they keep putting back on the street, yet want to track our children for money?

    It's wrong, wrong, wrong...

    I don't know if this is true or not...but I've read in the news articles that for 30 dollars anyone can file a Freedom Of Information Act request and receive the name of every child and their address in the school district.
    (above, bbm)
    See, that wouldn't bother me, because I am of that mindset that, "hey, if you've got nothing to hide, why worry?" I know, I know...I am too gullible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oh_gal View Post
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    See, that wouldn't bother me, because I am of that mindset that, "hey, if you've got nothing to hide, why worry?" I know, I know...I am too gullible.
    I happen to like the Constitution and my Fourth Amendment Rights.

    Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Last edited by KateB; 06-14-2015 at 11:55 AM. Reason: repair url tag.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda7NJ View Post
    I happen to like the Constitution and my Fourth Amendment Rights.

    Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    I see you as a very savvy person; something I am not. I am not trying to be argumentative or put you on the defensive -- I just really couldn't fathom why this would be an issue for anyone, and you have helped me to see a different side of things. Thank you!


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    Quote Originally Posted by oh_gal View Post
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    See, that wouldn't bother me, because I am of that mindset that, "hey, if you've got nothing to hide, why worry?" I know, I know...I am too gullible.
    I would think the 1st, 5th and 14th would also be infringed on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by oh_gal View Post
    I see you as a very savvy person; something I am not. I am not trying to be argumentative or put you on the defensive -- I just really couldn't fathom why this would be an issue for anyone, and you have helped me to see a different side of things. Thank you!
    Not savvy at all, but thank you


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    Here's a silly question.

    How much are the tracking i.d.'s and the tracking program costing the school versus how much the school has to gain if attendance is high?

    Unless I have included a link, it is my opinion and only my opinion that I am expressing.

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    I've no idea what it costs but I don't see it improving attendance figures very much unless the badges give the students an electric shock every time they exit the school area during school hours or something.

    My reasoning is, if the attendance figures are currently low, it means that they have been able to notice the students playing truant even without complex tracking systems and it made no difference to the students who didn't want to attend. Switching to electronic detection will probably continue to make no difference to the students who don't want to attend.

    If they do have a problem with the non-electronic detection of truant students (=can't count heads) the tracking system may come in handy but it would tend to increase the number of truants detected and make the attendance records look worse, not better (albeit more truthful).

    What are the positive and negative consequences of attending/not attending school that the students experience? Will that change somehow when they adopt the electronic system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oh_gal View Post
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    See, that wouldn't bother me, because I am of that mindset that, "hey, if you've got nothing to hide, why worry?" I know, I know...I am too gullible.
    If you,ve got nothing to hide, why should they track you? It all sounds very Big Brother to me, and could be the "slippery slope" to Orwell's 1984. Also, what prevents a friend, who is in class, from carrying your monitor? I don't think they have the authority to make anyone wear it, at least I hope not. It could be they're creating a bigger problem than the one they purport to be trying to solve.

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