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    Quote Originally Posted by saba View Post
    Corey Rangel‏@CoreyABC15

    Judge in Elizabeth Johnson trial denies 1 motion to dismiss kidnap charge. Taking 2nd under advisement. Could rule after lunch
    Elizabeth better put her big girl panties on cause she's headed to prison for a very long time. My faith in the judicial system is restored, I pray that we won't be disappointed when the verdict comes down.

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    court to resume soon

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    We are back.
    The greatest trespasser on justice still wishes it done to him.

    EDWARD COUNSEL, Maxims

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    yay! live!
    Don't take yourself so seriously... nobody else does.

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    From what I can tell, Mr. Victor is trying to win the case through jury instructions.

    I was so relieved that Ms. Andrews saw fit to remind him that Gabriel is listed as A victim in the original indictment!
    The greatest trespasser on justice still wishes it done to him.

    EDWARD COUNSEL, Maxims

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarolinaMoon View Post
    From what I can tell, Mr. Victor is trying to win the case through jury instructions.

    I was so relieved that Ms. Andrews saw fit to remind him that Gabriel is listed as A victim in the original indictment!
    And I loved the way that EJ's penpal/TPS supporter sat there shaking her head no through that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by artsy1 View Post
    And I loved the way that EJ's penpal/TPS supporter sat there shaking her head no through that!
    I'm mostly listening! I missed it.
    The greatest trespasser on justice still wishes it done to him.

    EDWARD COUNSEL, Maxims

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    Yep. She wasn't restraining him anymore. She either killed him or gave him away (which the prosecution can't say).
    The greatest trespasser on justice still wishes it done to him.

    EDWARD COUNSEL, Maxims

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    They've said Gabriel's name more today than they have since this whole thing began. I'm thrilled to see that Gabriel is finally in the forefront and not just sidenote. Finally, this is about Gabriel! I hope the jury gets it, I hope they really, really get it!

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    so did I miss it or did the judge NOT rule on all the motions? confused....


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    Judge is still debating on 2 motions: the DCAC (dangerous acts against children) part of the kidnapping and the Rule 20 (directed verdict by the judge before deliberations).

    IF the judge rules in favor of the defense on the DCAC, then the rule 20 motion will apply to ask the judge to find EJ not guilty on the kidnapping charges.

    If the judge rules for the pros, then the rule 20 is kind of a moot issue.

    Hope that clears it up.

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    I think there is a much better chance of EJ being found guilty now on all of the charges, since MV can't use a jurisdictional issue as their defense. MV should have never told the jury during opening statements that they agreed with the facts of the case - which includes the fact that kidnapping stems from EJ's violation of AZ court order, which makes it an AZ crime.

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    http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region...-court-tuesday

    Missing 'Baby Gabriel' case: Jury deliberations could begin Tuesday afternoon

    ...Late Monday evening, Judge Joseph Kreamer denied the motion to dismiss the charge...

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    and via twitter- thank you Corey!

    Corey Rangel‏@CoreyABC15

    ABC15 has learned judge in Elizabeth Johnson case DENIED motions to throw out kidnapping charges. Closing arguments today. #babygabriel

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