IN - Sylvia Likens, 16, tortured to death, Indianapolis, 26 Oct 1965

Good grief!

How does that happen? Don't they do background checks?

:eek:
fran

PS.... I know she supposedly paid her debt to society. But if it was MY child, I wouldn't want her anywhere near them. jmho, fran
 
Good grief!

How does that happen? Don't they do background checks?

:eek:
fran

PS.... I know she supposedly paid her debt to society. But if it was MY child, I wouldn't want her anywhere near them. jmho, fran

knoeWe knew were she was but we didn't know what she was up to. Why wasn't she vetted? She is a child killer.
 
I have read about Gertrude Baniszewski. Disturbing case. She was a hard core Baptist, which makes her a religious fanatic, which so characterizes Osama bin Laden, Fred Phelps, and Jim Jones. She is really self-righteous in nature, which is stronly characterizes bin Laden, Phelps, Jones, Seung-Hui Cho, and Lori Drew.

I know she was a middle child and her father died when she was young. Her relationship with her mother was bad.

Gertrude van Fossan Baniszewski
DOB: 9/19/1929
POB: Indianapolis, Indiana
Parents: Hugh M. and Mollie van Fossan
Sibling(s): Five Siblings
Education Level: High School Drop Out
 
Horrors. I looked it up and found this. You may not be able to finish reading it.

http://murderpedia.org/female.B/b/baniszewski.htm

I have read the whole thing. Sickening. I have to wonder if neighbors, church members, classmates, schools, and other people were aware of Sylvia Likens being tortured. If that is the case, I am see a pattern of complicitness. I have seen this pattern before with Nazis Germany, Soviet Union, Khmer Rouge, Rwanda, South Hadley (Phoebe Prince), Al-Qaeda, Penn State (Jerry Sandusky), and BBC (Jimmy Savile).
 
I have read the whole thing. Sickening. I have to wonder if neighbors, church members, classmates, schools, and other people were aware of Sylvia Likens being tortured. If that is the case, I am see a pattern of complicitness. I have seen this pattern before with Nazis Germany, Soviet Union, Khmer Rouge, Rwanda, South Hadley (Phoebe Prince), Al-Qaeda, Penn State (Jerry Sandusky), and BBC (Jimmy Savile).
So did I. It's mind boggling. The neighbors did see some things and of course, kids that went in and out of that house. Others had to have noticed. I just can't wrap my mind around all this. Never heard of this case before but I bet the old locals remember. I just spent most of a rainy Sunday afternoon researching this and the people involved. A few books have been written. The house was torn down in 2009 and tenants that rented it claimed it was haunted. It was supposed to be a parking lot of a church across the street. I did a google street view and it shows an empty lot.

A memorial in Willard Park several blocks away.
http://s227.photobucket.com/albums/.../?action=view&current=Picture106.jpg&newest=1



Where are Gertrude Baniszewski's children now? http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080820184040AAtllPK

Trutv Crime Library has a long story and it seems to be much the same as the one we just read. http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/young/likens/1.html
 
Horrors. I looked it up and found this. You may not be able to finish reading it.

http://murderpedia.org/female.B/b/baniszewski.htm

That's one of the worst things I've ever read, and by "read" I mean "barely managed to skim due to the horror of it."

Three years for manslaughter?

And the neighbors who saw Sylvia's injuries, heard that girl brag about inflicting them, and did nothing?

I can't even. I'm going to be sick.
 
How the heck did Paula Baniszewski manage to change her name and get a job in a school? I don't care if she was 'only' 17. She obviously had a mean streak a mile long and mean streaks just don't go away.
 
So did I. It's mind boggling. The neighbors did see some things and of course, kids that went in and out of that house. Others had to have noticed. I just can't wrap my mind around all this. Never heard of this case before but I bet the old locals remember. I just spent most of a rainy Sunday afternoon researching this and the people involved. A few books have been written. The house was torn down in 2009 and tenants that rented it claimed it was haunted. It was supposed to be a parking lot of a church across the street. I did a google street view and it shows an empty lot.

A memorial in Willard Park several blocks away.
http://s227.photobucket.com/albums/.../?action=view&current=Picture106.jpg&newest=1



Where are Gertrude Baniszewski's children now? http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080820184040AAtllPK

Trutv Crime Library has a long story and it seems to be much the same as the one we just read. http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/young/likens/1.html

That's one of the worst things I've ever read, and by "read" I mean "barely managed to skim due to the horror of it."

Three years for manslaughter?

And the neighbors who saw Sylvia's injuries, heard that girl brag about inflicting them, and did nothing?

I can't even. I'm going to be sick.

The more I read and think about Gertrude Baniszewski, she is not all that different from Fred Phelps, Andrew Kehoe, Osama bin Laden, Charles Manson, Seung-Hui Cho, Eric Harris, Jerry Sandusky, Jimmy Savile, Betty Broderick, Casey Anthony, and Lori Drew. Baniszewski is rotten and evil to the core like them.
 
I dont know what to say. She was a ringleader in Sylvia's murder. I am glad that she was found out...outed actually. That must be quite an application to see. "Have you ever been convicted of a felony?"
 
The more I read and think about Gertrude Baniszewski, she is not all that different from Fred Phelps, Andrew Kehoe, Osama bin Laden, Charles Manson, Seung-Hui Cho, Eric Harris, Jerry Sandusky, Jimmy Savile, Betty Broderick, Casey Anthony, and Lori Drew. Baniszewski is rotten and evil to the core like them.

And Pamela Smart.
 
And Pamela Smart.

How did I forget Pamela Smart. :crazy: She got her "boyfriend" William Flynn to kill her husband Gregory Smart. Flynn got Patrick Randall, Vance Lattime Jr., and Raymond Fowler involved. Smart is similar to Mary Kay Letourneau or Debra Lafave that she had a relationship with an adolescent from school. Smart was a media coordinator. She is a narcissistic psychopath and immature like Casey Anthony, Lori Drew, and Jerry Sandusky.

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamela_Smart"]Pamela Smart - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
 
I read about half the wikipedia article and then had to skim the rest. I almost choked when it said at the bottom that one of the other daughters, Stephanie, changed her name and was a school teacher? How does that happen? I wonder if they meant Paula (who works/worked for a school).

Horrifying story. Makes you scared to send your kiddos to school.
 
She married JoHn Pace and moved to Marshalltown Iowa. Her husband left her after 33 years to take with someone he met on the internet. She has three sons. Two live locally to her and one lives in California.
She has been suspended from duties and the school board is meeting to decide on further action. It is unlikely she will be reinstated.
She loves to hunt as you can see by the picture.
 

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I remember this well. I passed by that house on my way to the grocery store that night. It was an older mostly quiet neighborhood. There were lots of flashing lights on police cars and two lanes of the one way street was blocked to traffic. The next morning my jaw dropped as i read about the abusive murder that occurred there. months later I was shocked at how they were only given life sentences, which were later overturned by the SC. New trials it seemed only allowed this scum to get away with murder. I had thought perhaps Paula was dead because almost all of the other participants had died. Now I find out she is working in a school!!! The son John I read is a preacher of some sort in Texas but that might have changed since i read it. As for the other two boys who went to prison along with her son John they died painful early deaths of cancer. As for Paula she is past 62 so she can now live out her life with her social security check. We can only hope that she has a painful death also.
 

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