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    Unhappy CO - Jessica Ridgeway, 10, Westminster, 5 Oct 2012 - #16


    http://www.9news.com/news/article/29...stminster-girl

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    Continue the discussion here:

    The Latest:

    Police release pictures of a cross that may be related to Jessica's case as well as the case in May. Read more and see pictures of the cross here:
    http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/jessica-ridgeway/police-say-wooden-cross-may-belong-to-jessica-ridgeways-killer-need-help-identifying-it
    http://www.kctv5.com/story/19867106/recovered-cross-possible-pivotal-piece-in-jessica-ridgeway-investigation
    http://denver.cbslocal.com/2012/10/19/wooden-cross-could-provide-break-in-ridgeway-case/

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    New Thread - everyone, please take a minute to review the rules and etiquitte right here: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=159"]The Rules - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

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    CO - Jessica Ridgeway, 10, Westminster, 5 Oct 2012 - #16

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    I wonder if they've been scouring the landfill of that neighborhood's trash, to find identical garbage bags of recent trash to see if there's any made from the same machine containing identifiable items such as prescription bottles, letter envelopes, etc.

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    Hoping another news source will pick up on what Fox printed and try to determine how much of it is true, i.e. receipts found, DNA matching the assault with Jessica's murder, etc. Or that LE will make a statement. That was a lot of info for Fox to drop last night; it had to come from someplace, even if the part about the "hair" was probably exaggerated.
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    According to this, they just don't know yet.

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    A slightly out-of-place "JMO" regarding the reliability of the print media (it came up a fair bit overnight)---

    I worked in a major metropolitan newspaper for seven years, including a couple of years in the fact check/research library. Not only was there a full-time staff of many degree'd research librarians who were constantly pulling data from both hard-copy and digital sources (ones you have to pay for, not google) to assist the reporters/writers, the emphasis at that particular paper on checking and checking and re-checking every verifiable fact was phenomenal. When a correction had to be run, it was like a mark of shame.

    Now, that was 10+ years ago and the print media has of course been massively impacted by the internet. But that particular workplace of mine had the highest level of integrity and work ethic of anywhere I've ever worked. ESPECIALLY when a child had been harmed. I assume that today's large newspapers, especially those that still have a print edition, still function somewhat on that model. It's not just one person ticking away at a computer, blog-style, and writing whatever sounds good at the moment--there is a team of editors and researchers behind a big story like Sunday's Denver Post writeup.

    Because of my experience, I do give more credence to large news organizations with a print edition than I do bloggers/facebook/cable and local news *TV shows* (who just care about ratings) etc, but they all have quite a challenge with this case--not a lot of hard fact to go on, very few press conferences by LE, and a whole lot of rumor and speculation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cluciano63 View Post
    Hoping another news source will pick up on what Fox printed and try to determine how much of it is true, i.e. receipts found, DNA matching the assault with Jessica's murder, etc. Or that LE will make a statement. That was a lot of info for Fox to drop last night; it had to come from someplace, even if the part about the "hair" was probably exaggerated.
    I would like to read more about this ... would you happen to have a link?

    Never mind ..."Investigator Trevor Materasso of the Westminster Police Department said that "60 percent" of what Fox 31 reported Sunday night was "erroneous and bad information."

    http://www.denverpost.com/breakingne...#ixzz2A1ylyKJx
    Read The Denver Post's Terms of Use of its content: http://www.denverpost.com/termsofuse

    From the same article:

    "Jessica was abducted after she left home walking to school Oct. 5. Her remains were found in garbage bags 11 miles away in an open field in Arvada's Pattridge Park five days after her disappearance. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by otto View Post
    I would like to read more about this ... would you happen to have a link?

    Never mind ..."Investigator Trevor Materasso of the Westminster Police Department said that "60 percent" of what Fox 31 reported Sunday night was "erroneous and bad information."

    http://www.denverpost.com/breakingne...#ixzz2A1ylyKJx
    Read The Denver Post's Terms of Use of its content: http://www.denverpost.com/termsofuse

    From the same article:

    "Jessica was abducted after she left home walking to school Oct. 5. Her remains were found in garbage bags 11 miles away in an open field in Arvada's Pattridge Park five days after her disappearance. "
    http://kdvr.com/2012/10/21/exclusive...k-sources-say/

    This article was posted late last night.
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    If the part of the KDVR story about the receipts is true, I am curious about a couple of things. Typically, the cashiers will ask if you have a "King Soopers" card which is basically a discount card. To register for such a card, you provide an address, phone number, etc. Of course you can always tell them no and not receive credit or discounts on your purchase. I also wonder how he paid. I suppose he is smart enough to have paid in cash.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DylansMom34 View Post
    If the part of the KDVR story about the receipts is true, I am curious about a couple of things. Typically, the cashiers will ask if you have a "King Soopers" card which is basically a discount card. To register for such a card, you provide an address, phone number, etc. Of course you can always tell them no and not receive credit or discounts on your purchase. I also wonder how he paid. I suppose he is smart enough to have paid in cash.
    Having to constantly give out my personal info these days annoys me enough that I usually lie on loyalty-program cards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DylansMom34 View Post
    If the part of the KDVR story about the receipts is true, I am curious about a couple of things. Typically, the cashiers will ask if you have a "King Soopers" card which is basically a discount card. To register for such a card, you provide an address, phone number, etc. Of course you can always tell them no and not receive credit or discounts on your purchase. I also wonder how he paid. I suppose he is smart enough to have paid in cash.
    If the receipts do belong to the killer, I think it reflects that he is not too smart/organized anyway. (Also, leaving DNA with two victims, not so smart.) And if he bought these bags sometime prior to Jessica's abduction, along with other groceries, he may not have known at the time what use he would make of them, and indeed used a discount card if he had one.
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cluciano63 View Post
    http://kdvr.com/2012/10/21/exclusive...k-sources-say/

    This article was posted late last night.
    So 60% of that article is incorrect ... it almost seems like the source for the article is online discussion boards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DylansMom34 View Post
    If the part of the KDVR story about the receipts is true, I am curious about a couple of things. Typically, the cashiers will ask if you have a "King Soopers" card which is basically a discount card. To register for such a card, you provide an address, phone number, etc. Of course you can always tell them no and not receive credit or discounts on your purchase. I also wonder how he paid. I suppose he is smart enough to have paid in cash.
    I'm not convinced that there's any point in discussing the contents of the Fox News rumor/gossip article that police have said is 60% incorrect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cluciano63 View Post
    http://kdvr.com/2012/10/21/exclusive...k-sources-say/

    This article was posted late last night.
    o/t I'm so tired of sloppily written news articles. Here we have a serious subject and yet the writer has no grasp of punctuation.

    If the info reported is actually valid, I hope it does not hamstring what LE is putting together.

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