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    N.C. man says church confined him for being gay

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/10/2...fined-him.html

    CHARLOTTE, N.C. — A 22-year-old man has accused his former Rutherford County church of holding him for four months against his will while he was physically and emotionally abused because he is gay.

    Michael Lowry filed a complaint in February against Word of Faith Fellowship Church, a nondenominational Christian congregation in Spindale that has made national headlines with some of its practices.

    In a statement given to a sheriff’s department investigator last week, Lowry said he was kept in a church building from Aug. 1 to Nov. 19, 2011. He said he was knocked unconscious during his first day of confinement.

    Lowry’s former pastor, Jane Whaley, said Sunday that all of his allegations are “lies.”...............

    Rutherford County District Attorney Brad Greenway said the case is being investigated and it’s too early to say if it will reach a grand jury.

    “We’ll continue to investigate, talk to some other people, and then make a decision,” he said Sunday.......


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    If true, this is absolutely barbaric.
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    While wondering if it's true or not, if one even thinks, "I would not be surprised," it is an indication of feelings of the injurious backwardness in portions of the religious community.

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    True. And I do believe it's probably true, because there ARE religious communities where it would not surprise me in the least to hear of this happening, sadly.

    And reading more about this group, they sound more like a cult than any kind of "mainstream" religion.

    And of course, mainstream religion itself has problems in its treatment of lgbt folks.

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    From WRAL, Raleigh, NC via AP
    Posted 4:42 p.m. today
    Updated 4:43 p.m. today
    "They kept us as slaves": AP reveals claims against church

    SPINDALE, N.C. — When Andre Oliveira answered the call to leave his Word of Faith Fellowship congregation in Brazil to move to the mother church in North Carolina at the age of 18, his passport and money were confiscated by church leaders — for safekeeping, he said he was told.
    Trapped in a foreign land, he said he was forced to work 15 hours a day, usually for no pay, first cleaning warehouses for the secretive evangelical church and later toiling at businesses owned by senior ministers. Any deviation from the rules risked the wrath of church leaders, he said, ranging from beatings to shaming from the pulpit.
    "They trafficked us up here. They knew what they were doing. They needed labor and we were cheap labor — hell, free labor," Oliveira said.
    http://www.wral.com/brazilians-funne...tm_source=wral

    Can nothing be done about the abuses in this church? SMH


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    From the link in post #5 -

    On at least one occasion, former members alerted authorities. In 2014, three ex-congregants told an assistant U.S. attorney that the Brazilians were being forced to work for no pay, according to a recording obtained by the AP. 3

    "And do they beat up the Brazilians?" Jill Rose, now the U.S. attorney in Charlotte, asked.

    "Most definitely," one of the former congregants responded. Ministers "mostly bring them up here for free work," another said.

    Though Rose could be heard promising to look into it, the former members said she never responded when they repeatedly tried to contact her in the months after the meeting.

    Rose declined to comment to the AP, citing an ongoing investigation.
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    The church has rarely been sanctioned since it was founded in 1979 by sect leader Jane Whaley, a former math teacher, and her husband, Sam. Another previous AP report outlined how congregants were ordered by church leaders to lie to authorities investigating reports of abuse.


    http://www.wral.com/brazilians-funne...tm_source=wral

    So victims have complained and LE has done nothing - specifically an Assistant US Attorney (now a US Attorney). Not her job? She didn't want to get involved? She clearly wanted to stay in US Attorney's office though. Where/who will she pass the buck to?

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    From the link in post #1 -

    Lowry said he came back to Spindale last week to follow up with his complaint and to visit the church and other sites from his past “so I could realize there was nothing to fear.”

    NB of Boiling Springs, who met Lowry in January and has since become his friend, said Lowry has often expressed frustration at the pace of the investigation. She said she called the department herself, urging investigators along.

    Rutherford County Sheriff Chris Francis could not be reached for comment.

    Thursday night, the Asheville television station ran its report on the case.

    Friday night, Greenway and sheriff’s investigators talked with Lowry for about three hours.

    The investigation has been slowed, the district attorney said, because Lowry had been hard to reach after moving out of state.


    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/crim...e24739021.html

    UBM Here's a good start to buck passing - blame the victim.

    Doesn't look like it will go well for these victims, because there are people that can in fact stop any investigation and be paid to stop any investigation. I would like to know how well the 'investigators' have slept over the months and years (above post) they have hindered and ignored the victims here.

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    Excellent points, Woodland -- we'll keep looking to see if either of these horrible situations gets any further attention or if any victims get relief as well. Money talks, right??? Grrrrr.

    And I feel sure this ~church~ isn't the only one that has practices similar to this.


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    No surprise here. From WRAL:
    Brazil church rejects abuse claims detailed in AP stories

    RIO DE JANEIRO — One of Word of Faith Fellowship's two churches in Brazil has rejected claims made by former members that they were subjected to physical and verbal abuse at the hands of ministers and that young congregants were sent to the mother church in North Carolina and forced to work without pay.
    http://www.wral.com/brazil-church-re...ries/16844985/


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    This was posted at 7:43pm Wednesday, 11/15/2017

    Ex-members of church urge overturning of court agreement

    Spindale NC — Former members of a controversial North Carolina-based church want the state to take legal action to overturn a court-ordered compromise they say has crippled child abuse investigations involving the sect.

    The former congregants of Word of Faith Fellowship also want Rutherford County child protection agency director John Carroll to resign, saying he pushed for the 2005 settlement and has failed to protect children from abusive practices inside the church.

    http://www.wral.com/ex-members-of-ch...ment/17116992/


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    Another sad story from a former member of Word of Faith "church" from today's news:


    'Nobody saved us': Man describes childhood in abusive 'cult'

    SPINDALE, NC — Jamey Anderson vividly recalls being a skinny kid trembling on the floor of a dank, windowless storage room, waiting in terror for the next adult to open the door.

    He was bruised and exhausted after being held down while a group of Word of Faith Fellowship congregants — including his mother and future stepfather — beat him with a wooden paddle, he said. As with most punishments at the secretive Christian church, Anderson said, it was prompted by some vague accusation: He had sin in his heart, or he had given in to the "unclean." The attacks could last for hours until he confessed to something, anything, and cried out to Jesus, he said.
    http://www.wral.com/-nobody-saved-us...ult-/17182030/


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    I am just so sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by borndem View Post
    From WRAL, Raleigh, NC via AP[COLOR=#800000]

    http://www.wral.com/brazilians-funne...tm_source=wral

    Can nothing be done about the abuses in this church? SMH
    All too reminiscent of a very mainstream religion's ongoing practice.

    ETA also, BYU engaged in torture to try to un-gay gays. Yep, all too familiar.
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    Well, now -- Here's the other side of the story:

    Family of ex-church member denies claims of childhood abuse
    Posted 4:48 p.m. todaySPINDALE, North Carolina — Family members of a man who broke with a controversial church based in rural North Carolina have released a video disputing that he was physically and emotionally abused throughout his childhood in the sect.
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    "I'm here today because Jamey has gone to The Associated Press and what he has said, even though he is very articulate and may be believable to you, but what he says is lies. There's
    nothing that he says that's true," Dolan said, flanked by Anderson's grandmother and stepsister.

    Word of Faith Fellowship is a secretive Christian sect founded in 1979 in Spindale, in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains. It has grown to a congregation of nearly 750 people in North Carolina, with hundreds more followers extending to Brazil, Ghana and other countries.
    http://www.wral.com/family-of-ex-chu...buse/17186348/
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