CO - Jessica Ridgeway, 10, Westminster, 5 Oct 2012 - #17

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http://www.9news.com/news/article/293104/222/Police-search-for-missing-Westminster-girl

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The Latest:

Police release pictures of a cross that may be related to Jessica's case as well as the case in May. Read more and see pictures of the cross here:
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/jessica-ridgeway/police-say-wooden-cross-may-belong-to-jessica-ridgeways-killer-need-help-identifying-it
http://www.kctv5.com/story/19867106/recovered-cross-possible-pivotal-piece-in-jessica-ridgeway-investigation
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2012/10/19/wooden-cross-could-provide-break-in-ridgeway-case/

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In case any of you missed it this was posted on the Westminster PD Facebook Page

Westminster PD
10 hours ago
Westminster Police have definitively made a connection between the Ketner lake incident and the Jessica Ridgeway murder. We cannot go into details about the connection to preserve the integrity of the case.
http://www.facebook.com/westminsterpolice/posts/10151362522364305

Westminster PD
10 hours ago
We can also say that there were receipts collected during the investigation. We can say that they were NOT found at Patridge Park and are not related to the Jessica Ridgeway investigation. Investigators were at King Soopers, however they were following up on several other tips.
http://www.facebook.com/westminsterpolice/posts/10151362526459305

Westminster PD
12 hours ago
We want to assure the public that their safety is our number one priority! If there is information which directly relates to public safety, we will get that information out to you through our social media sites and the news stations. Please understand that we are working diligently to bring this predator to justice, and sometimes information will not be released to protect the integrity of the investigation and the future prosecution. Again, our entire communities safety is our number one priority.
http://www.facebook.com/westminsterpolice/posts/10151362531044305
 
Good grief....what is happening to our world?

LE believes the body found at a recycling center is the body of missing 12-year old, Autumn Pasquale of NJ.

I don't know if statistics bear it out, but it certainly seems that our children are being taken from us at alarming rates....
 
Just for the record, I did not say I thought a Mexican drug cartel was involved in Jessica's death.

I said I found a case with similarities to Jessica's where an AMERICAN girl was killed by an AMERICAN drug and sex trafficking gang IN AMERICA. Oklahoma, to be precise, and because of the similarities I wondered whether all members of that AMERICAN gang were accounted for, or whether some of them might have moved to Colorado.
 
Isn't it the worst when you go to reply to a post and you realize you can't? This is from last topic. Confusion said:

I think it would be extremely unhealthy to force a child to stay indoors all of the time, especially alone if none of the kids on the block are allowed to leave their houses either. I see no reason for making parents who have lost a child to a sadistic criminal to feel guilt on top of the loss. MOO

The point of my original post was that "Denver Metro in Fear" is a sensationalistic headline put out by the media. Also, I don't see how I am making parents who have lost a child to a murderer feel guilt. It was not a criticism of any parent; it's of the media.
 
Off Topic _ TN Abduction April 2012


An example of the FBI's inclusion of the most valuable resource in missing/murdered person investigations: 'The American Public'..

Adam Mayes was on the FBI's Top 10 Most Wanted list for the murders of 31-year-old Jo Ann Bain and her 14-year-old daughter Adrienne, and the kidnapping of 12-year-old Alexandria and 8-year-old Kyliyah Bain on April 27, 2012 in Whiteville, TN.

Raw Video Of FBI Press Conference May 9, 2012 – (Hardeman County, TN) The FBI has added Adam Mayes to its Ten Most List

http://wreg.com/2012/05/09/adam-mayes-added-to-fbi-ten-most-wanted/ (VIDEO)

Bain Sisters Rescued due to an aware Citizen's Tip- Guntown, MS

FBI News Conference in Guntown, MS May 11, 2012 (VIDEO)
http://www.abc24.com/content/topsto...dam-Mayes-Commits/FUpiGB2cRUSbEwgwsZtiGQ.cspx

Bain Sisters Found Alive, Adam Mayes Commits Suicide (VIDEO)
http://www.abc24.com/content/topsto...dam-Mayes-Commits/FUpiGB2cRUSbEwgwsZtiGQ.cspx

The multi-agency team credits the numerous tips for the ultimate rescue of Alexandria and Kyliyah Bain. It is likely that someone will qualify for the $171,000 reward.
 
Just for the record, I did not say I thought a Mexican drug cartel was involved in Jessica's death.

I said I found a case with similarities to Jessica's where an AMERICAN girl was killed by an AMERICAN drug and sex trafficking gang IN AMERICA. Oklahoma, to be precise, and because of the similarities I wondered whether all members of that AMERICAN gang were accounted for, or whether some of them might have moved to Colorado.

LOL,,no wonder I can not stay updated! Stuff gets to flying sometimes.
 
Isn't it the worst when you go to reply to a post and you realize you can't? This is from last topic. Confusion said:



The point of my original post was that "Denver Metro in Fear" is a sensationalistic headline put out by the media. Also, I don't see how I am making parents who have lost a child to a murderer feel guilt. It was not a criticism of any parent; it's of the media.

if you ever have a post that you would like copied over to the new thread please alert and I can copy it for you.

No easy way to open and close the doors with new threads. I hope everyone arrived here relatively unscathed.
 
Last thread, last page someone asked "why did they say light skinned instead of white?"

IMO because white (even though it is a color) describes a RACE, while light skinned describes a SHADE OF SKIN. it casts a wider net.

I am passing the torch about the skin color debate now.

We could use some good news today!
 
Last thread, last page someone asked "why did they say light skinned instead of white?"

IMO because white (even though it is a color) describes a RACE, while light skinned describes a SHADE OF SKIN. it casts a wider net.

I am passing the torch about the skin color debate now.

We could use some good news today!


My son is Latino/Caucasian mixed and some days he looks white, some days he looks very Latino-- depending on what he's wearing and what time of year it is, in winter/spring he looks much more Caucasian b/c he's not outside as much and he's not as dark as in the summer- so he's considered 'light skinned' but we mark Latino or bi-racial on the race box when we're asked.

I agree using the term "Light skinned" does open up more possibilities and doesn't pigeon hole the public into thinking it's someone who's 'white'.
 
Good grief....what is happening to our world?

LE believes the body found at a recycling center is the body of missing 12-year old, Autumn Pasquale of NJ.

I don't know if statistics bear it out, but it certainly seems that our children are being taken from us at alarming rates....

I was so bummed the read this when I woke up today. I know her body was intact, but is there any possibility it could be the same guy on the move?

btw - she was found in a recycling container, not a recycling center. "The search ended around 10 p.m. Monday on East Clayton Avenue when a search team member found her body in one of the blue recycling bins placed out for pickup Tuesday morning.

The location is right around the corner from the Clayton Police Department, a quarter-mile from Delsea Drive and not far from Autumn's home."
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/19891051/clayton-mayor-as-a-community-we-will-get-through-this


why are girls considered throw away trash?

I need to believe there is only one guy doing all this (Lyric & Elizabeth too) and he's traveling around. more reason ti think the same guy is on the move:
http://www./321596/female-torso-found-at-niagara-falls-identity-unknown/

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_...new-jersey-girl-believed-found-officials-say/
 
I in no way am saying I believe the drug cartel is involved. I am just saying the type of people who are no strangers to this sort of behavior are the MS13 / Cartel / gang types. As another poster in the last thread was able to articulate what I didnt, A person like that could operate under their own directives, or sick thrills.

Its just a coincidence, the descriptions, the evidence found, ect... which can all be linked together, but its just a coincidence Im sure.

And as someone else stated, they hope its not an undocmented person, which brought up the memory of the train killer, a man (not cartel affiliated) who killed in Mexico and the USA.

If anything the Gang/Cartel (not as a whole, but acts of one or maybe 3) gets some other ideas flowing.

But the fact remains, there is 1 or more people being described as "Light skinned" and bewteen 5ft5 and 5ft9, trying to abduct people left and right down there.
 
On the last thread there were discussions about neighborhood watches being formed, ALWAYS going out in pairs or groups whether it be children or adults, whether it be going to school or out for a jog.

A few thoughts -- I think EVERY group should be documented and confirmed. If a parent is responsible for taking four children to school on Tuesday and Thursday, those four families need to write down the exact plan and stay in touch to confirm that everything went smoothly. Hypervigiliant? Paranoid? I really don't thinks so. Not at all. Necessary, unfortunately. Just put these plans in place, stick to them, and it will take such a short amount of time to do it right and ensure safety while keeping everyone accountable.

Not sure if WPD is out in the community giving guidance to locals that may not be broadcast to the national public, but I would hope they encourage everything to be organized and reported back to WPD. Neighborhood watch groups should be clearly defined in terms of rules, limitations, members, etc. All members should know, for example, NOT TO APPROACH children they don't know and start talking to them UNLESS there is a specific rule in place that is known to the child. Just what they need in that cmty is a neighborhood watch member falsely acting like an abductor (or the actual abductor using the rouse of a NWM). Also if someone who is NOT involved in a given neighborhood watch program attempts to "help" and is unknown, it should be quickly identified and reported to police. So I hope the local neighborhoods and communities are establishing all of this with some clear guidance on the part of WPD. Hopefully the PD has a seperate department handling the public safety vs. tips & the actual case so the community is really being helped more than just through the limited pressers.
 
I was so bummed the read this when I woke up today. I know her body was intact, but is there any possibility it could be the same guy on the move?

btw - she was found in a recycling container, not a recycling center. "The search ended around 10 p.m. Monday on East Clayton Avenue when a search team member found her body in one of the blue recycling bins placed out for pickup Tuesday morning.

The location is right around the corner from the Clayton Police Department, a quarter-mile from Delsea Drive and not far from Autumn's home."
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/19891051/clayton-mayor-as-a-community-we-will-get-through-this


why are girls considered throw away trash?

I need to believe there is only one guy doing all this (Lyric & Elizabeth too) and he's traveling around. more reason ti think the same guy is on the move:
http://www./321596/female-torso-found-at-niagara-falls-identity-unknown/

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_...new-jersey-girl-believed-found-officials-say/

That bottom link to CBS news...there is some sick *advertiser censored* who commented on that report. LE needs to track him down. Only someone with a sick and twisted mind would actually post something so degrading like that.
 
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