CO - Jessica Ridgeway, 10, Westminster, 5 Oct. 2012 - #22

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I just thought of this because I read a book about serial killers in the recent past but has anyone thought about AS and older/elderly victims? I read that young/new killers sometimes .....no good word for this....practice/start with not only animals but the elderly.
I am really just curious to hear from those of you who have been around on here longer than I have if you have ever heard of this. Do any of these guys go from elderly people to kids? Aside from BTK, I know he didn't care who it was.
Thanks in advance!
Btw, I consider y'all my new hobby. : )
Some moms scrapbook or cook while their kid is napping. I get on WS.
Naptime should be ending soon but I will check back with y'all after bed time.
Have a great day and again, thanks to anyone who responds.
 
I don't know about the elderly angle but I'd love to hear what you've learned.
I don't know much about the BTK, for some reason he never really struck an interest with me, so maybe I should learn a bit more about him then what is on wikipedia.

Welcome!
 
Geesh Louise! I'm trying so hard to play 'catch up' in this case! I leave for 10 minutes to take the litter box out - come back two pages behind and a new thread!
 
I just thought of this because I read a book about serial killers in the recent past but has anyone thought about AS and older/elderly victims? I read that young/new killers sometimes .....no good word for this....practice/start with not only animals but the elderly.
I am really just curious to hear from those of you who have been around on here longer than I have if you have ever heard of this. Do any of these guys go from elderly people to kids? Aside from BTK, I know he didn't care who it was.
Thanks in advance!
Btw, I consider y'all my new hobby. : )
Some moms scrapbook or cook while their kid is napping. I get on WS.
Naptime should be ending soon but I will check back with y'all after bed time.
Have a great day and again, thanks to anyone who responds.

First off - :welcome: to Websleuths! It does sort of become an obsession, this sleuthing business ;)


Eta I just noticed youve been a member for a while but an infrequent poster. I guess it is mre acurate to welcome to posting :)

In response to your question, I am not aware of the statistics and have no link to provide, but it would appear that AS did not have a specific type. His criteria seems to have been female, but even that is simply an assumption on my part. When the jogger abduction was foiled, he moved on to a younger, smaller, weeker victim in Jessica.

So weakness/vulnerability would appear to be a factor in his victim selection. In perps such as he, I would think it safe to assume that the elderly, the infirm, or disabled would also fit the bill.
 
some people in the last thread were talking about whether AS might have had access to other vehicles. Didn't someone say that his fathers house had a 15 car garage? And I think his Dad was out of town a lot. So I bet he had chances to 'borrow' vehicles from his dad's house.
 
wow a 15 car garage? That beats out my dad for his mid life criss garage lol. Im sure he had access to other cars, most of us do if our car isn't running etc etc. Im 34 and if my car has issues, I have to call around to borrow for an errand.
I just hope it's not the case that he did borrow anyone's car, although he wouldn't be the first.
Gary Ridgeway did so.
 
some people in the last thread were talking about whether AS might have had access to other vehicles. Didn't someone say that his fathers house had a 15 car garage? And I think his Dad was out of town a lot. So I bet he had chances to 'borrow' vehicles from his dad's house.

Possible but hard to say without knowing how involved his dad was in his life. His dad has a colorful criminal history, including DV charges, so it is equally possible IMO that he was estranged from his father and had zero access to his dad's properties or vehicles.


Not discounting, just don't have enough info to speculate.
 
I read that young/newer killers/rapist, if it is a sexual motivation/crime might start with an elderly woman first because they live alone and are easy to subdue. They don't always murder them but sometimes they do. I can't remember the book...maybe it was Mindhunter or one like it. Whatever book everyone reads about profiling serial killers.
I wanted to know about this bc sometimes on my local news I will hear about an 85 year old woman being sexually assaulted and I used to think, "jeez, really? Why?!" Sometimes the local news would report that they found the guy and he would be in his late teens. Again I would wonder "WTH?"
*** Please don't think I think same age sexual assaulted doesnt deserve a "WTH" either!!
Then I read the SK books and one of the authors talks about it.

As for BTK, all I know is he didn't have a certain person. He murdered young and old and men and women. I will let people who do know about him share because he hasn't been on of the SKs I've been reading about yet. Yet.
 
Possible but hard to say without knowing how involved his dad was in his life. His dad has a colorful criminal history, including DV charges, so it is equally possible IMO that he was estranged from his father and had zero access to his dad's properties or vehicles.


Not discounting, just don't have enough info to speculate.

Has there been any reports of what other vehicles were in AS's house?
 
First off - :welcome: to Websleuths! It does sort of become an obsession, this sleuthing business ;)


Eta I just noticed youve been a member for a while but an infrequent poster. I guess it is mre acurate to welcome to posting :)

In response to your question, I am not aware of the statistics and have no link to provide, but it would appear that AS did not have a specific type. His criteria seems to have been female, but even that is simply an assumption on my part. When the jogger abduction was foiled, he moved on to a younger, smaller, weeker victim in Jessica.

So weakness/vulnerability would appear to be a factor in his victim selection. In perps such as he, I would think it safe to assume that the elderly, the infirm, or disabled would also fit the bill.

Thanks! Yes, a viewer and infrequent poster. It takes me awhile to come out of my shell? I also have a toddler. I think of stuff to say but by the time I get a chance to post I am pages and pages (sometimes threads) behind or someone else beat me to it.
 
Has there been any reports of what other vehicles were in AS's house?

I think just the SUV and maybe a scooter. Someone a couple threads back link a news story interviewing one of his peers/acquaintances in which the person discuussed seeing AS riding on his scooter, if I recall correctly.
 
Geesh Louise! I'm trying so hard to play 'catch up' in this case! I leave for 10 minutes to take the litter box out - come back two pages behind and a new thread!

I know what you mean - dang litterbox seems like it always overflowing as soon as you clean it up... even when there is only one pesky feline. :floorlaugh:
 
Ah! That's why! Ok, understand. I have to say I'm very impressed by the way the mods do their job here on these boards. They are spot on, firm, but I never feel shouted at. And I guess it's not an easy job what with the high amount of traffic some cases get and emotions running high. Plus legal issues have to be considered. I don't think it's always easy, and it's certainly time consuming as well. But the result is a really good forum and very interesting and meaningful discussions. Great job!

Needed to be said, right? :)
 
I was thinking that but wasn't sure, thanks for answering. Damn when I left it only had 32 pages. Oh well. How long has this new thread been up? Just curious to know how much I have missed out on!

Less than an hour.
 
I found his father's address and looked the house up. On Satellite view on Google Maps, I see a non-attached 2-car garage. It also looks like there's an attached garage, which looks to be 3 spots, at the most. However, on Zillow, it says: "Garage - Detached". So I think he has anywhere from 2-5 garage spaces.
 
Eileen730--been thinking about that case you mentioned on the last thread for a couple of days now, Alyssa Bustamonte. I believe she got life with the possibility of parole.

In one of my posts, I said that there are quite a few juveniles who committed murder, who said:

they wanted to know what it felt like.

A list could be made.
 
I know what you mean - dang litterbox seems like it always overflowing as soon as you clean it up... even when there is only one pesky feline. :floorlaugh:

Ahhhh yes what a delight! Mine waits until I come home to use the box. As soon as I get in the door...yay! It's mom! Run to the door! Roll around and purr! Take a flying leap into the box! Look mom, missed ya so much I made you a present! Then he will watch as I clean out the box, and as soon as I turn my back...:sigh:
 
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