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  1. #1
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    CO - Fort Collins, BlkFem UP9890, 55-70, suicide in motel room, Jul'11



    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/9890

    Case Information

    Unidentified Female

    Case number: 11C-558

    Date found: July 11, 2011 10:45

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    Demographics

    Estimated age: Adult - Pre 70

    Minimum age: 55 years

    Maximum age: 70 years

    Race: Black/African American

    Sex: Female

    Weight (pounds): 211, Measured*

    Height (inches): 66, Measured*

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    Body conditions

    Recognizable face

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    Probable year of death: 2011 to 2011*

    Estimated postmortem interval: 12 Hours*

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    Circumstances

    Location Found

    Address: 1 Motel 9

    Address 2: 3634 E. Mulberry St.

    City: Fort Collins

    State: Colorado

    Zip code: 80524

    County: Larimer

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    Circumstances of death

    This middle-aged African American female checked in to a local motel on 06/27/11 and arrived there by taxi. She paid for a room in cash through 07/11/11. It was later found that she had stayed at other local motels in the area, always taking a taxi, paying in cash, and giving false and different names. She told the Motel 9 that her name was Sandra Nelson, of 5203 Bosa Ave., Park City, UT. This was later found to be a non-existent address and false name. She also stated that she was originally from Los Angeles and was looking for a house in this area. On 07/11/11, she did not show up for breakfast as had been her custom. Since it was her last paid day, staff assumed she had checked out. They entered her room with a master key and found her deceased on the bed with pills at her feet and a bright blue, granular purging coming from her nose and mouth. There was no suicide note but autopsy results showed a massive overdose of multiple medications. All attempts to identify the decedent have failed.

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    Physical

    Hair color: Gray or Partially Gray

    Head hair: *Gray/ black, with more white in front around face; styled into soft waves, but tight, afro curls when wet at autopsy

    Eye color: Brown

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    Scars and marks

    5" well-healed lower midline abdominal scar and faint 6" transverse abdominal scar (possibly representing a past Cesarean section); 1" rounded scar on bottom of chin

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    Natural Teeth w/ partial upper denture

    Walked with a cane

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    Clothing on body

    Brown/ black/white Paisley design pullover top, black undershirt; black bra; black pants; white cotton panties; white socks

    Clothing with body 2 suitcases w/ miscellaneous clothing and toiletries

    Footwear: Black shoes

    Jewelry: White metal earrings; white metal chain necklace; white metal wristwatch

    Eyewear: Black plastic framed Rx eyeglasses

    Other items found: with body Walking cane; unmarked baggies of pills/ medications; black purse w/ wallet but no personal information; Bible; book "The Political Teachings of Jesus"
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 03-11-2013 at 01:23 PM.

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    That is a strange street name.

    I did find a Bosa Avenue in Pauls Valley, Oklahoma but only one listing on that street, and it is "Paul's Valley Community Center"

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    I wonder how she got cash...
    Let's say she has a bank account somewhere- she needs ID to access it.

    I wonder if she had a bunch of cash and had slowly come to the end of it and decided to take her own life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DylansMom34 View Post
    That is a strange street name.

    I did find a Bosa Avenue in Pauls Valley, Oklahoma but only one listing on that street, and it is "Paul's Valley Community Center"
    I was thinking the same thing, DM! Paul's Valley is apparently a city in OK (pop ~6500). The Bosa Indoor Swimming Pool is also there (the paulsvalley.com site had so many flash panels it was making my computer twitch so it was hard to navigate). There's also a banquet hall on Bosa Ave http://www.bosabanquethall.net

    There are also a donut chain in AZ called "Bosa." Perhaps this woman was a fan (or could smell donuts at the hotel - she was pretty big on breakfast, after all, according to the staff).
    Last edited by annemc2; 11-13-2012 at 09:17 PM. Reason: add on

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    Her book choice was interesting, too.

    Amazon says: Longtime political analyst and commentator Tod Lindberg goes beyond punditry to address how Jesus's words and teachings—once a radical set of ideas—have come to define our concept of government and our vision for society. The Political Teachings of Jesus: Tod Lindberg: Amazon.com: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/412tDVR-RgL.@@AMEPARAM@@412tDVR-RgL

    an excerpt can be found here: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...gs_of_jes.html
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    The Larimer County coroner's 2011 annual report toxicology revealed:
    - blood alcohol level of .088
    -presence of benzodiazepines (likely used for anxiety)
    -presence of tramadol (likely used for pain)
    http://www.larimer.org/coroner/2011_annual_report.pdf

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    Bumping.
    Where is Shawn Hale? https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/7546/0/ Missing from Apple Valley CA since 11/04/1994

    Where is Michelle Crawford? https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/14428/0/ Missing from Lawton, OK since 06/08/1999

    Where is Jennifer Lee Schmidt? https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4822/0/ (Missing From West Lafayette IN(Purdue University) since 08/06/85.

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    A little older than the Namus estimate...Think she would have been 78 in 2011..But surely worth a look...

    Marilyne Chamberlain...Worked for the Federal Government..disappeared in 1998 at age 65..Last known to have gone to the Federal Credit Union at the Pentagon in Washington, D.C. She conducted a transaction at the credit union and then proceeded to pay a bill at a Sears and Roebuck store. Possible last sited on metro subway...Wore glasses..possible two upper molars missing



    http://www.blackandmissinginc.com/cd...singInfoID=273
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/1875/0/



    Classito

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    I came across this website (CBI: Cold Case Files). Looking through it now:

    https://www.colorado.gov/apps/coldca...d2c5QTq06fbA__
    Northern Colorado Shootings / Incidents Lists & Time Table / Detailed Spreadsheet by Forager:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...ew?pli=1#gid=0

    Northern Colorado Shootings Case Map:
    https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...o.kzPJOvnNDQio

    NoCo / Thread 1 / Possible Serial Shooter has Colorado Drivers on Edge / WHO KILLED JACOBY AND CONNOLE?

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    There are only 3 ruleouts for this UID. Joyce McCollum has been ruled out twice, according to NAMUS. The other 2 ruleouts are Bobbie McDowell and Sandra Welton.

    This Ohio MP caught my attention: https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/10560/17/ . Her name is Maebelle Dawson. Her hair is styled in soft waves and she is wearing glasses. She disappeared in 1998. Height in range, but the MP weighs less than the UID. At a complete loss to explain time gap between 1998 and 2011.

    This lady also caught my attention because there is almost nothing posted about her and she is not listed in the Missouri state MP site. She is not in NAMUS, either. Her name is Catherine Jackson. Ms. Jackson disappeared from Missouri in 2002 at the age of 44. No height, no weight, no DNA, no FP, no dental is listed. Ms. Jackson appears to have the same face shape and high cheekbones that the UID has, though.
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3277dfmo.html
    Where is Shawn Hale? https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/7546/0/ Missing from Apple Valley CA since 11/04/1994

    Where is Michelle Crawford? https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/14428/0/ Missing from Lawton, OK since 06/08/1999

    Where is Jennifer Lee Schmidt? https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4822/0/ (Missing From West Lafayette IN(Purdue University) since 08/06/85.


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    I think if she was reported missing at all, it could have been quite some time before this. You can live a long time on not much money eating one meal a day at cheap hotels with free breakfasts.
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

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    True. The UID strikes me as being a very organized, very methodical woman who carefully planned things.
    Where is Shawn Hale? https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/7546/0/ Missing from Apple Valley CA since 11/04/1994

    Where is Michelle Crawford? https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/14428/0/ Missing from Lawton, OK since 06/08/1999

    Where is Jennifer Lee Schmidt? https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4822/0/ (Missing From West Lafayette IN(Purdue University) since 08/06/85.

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    It always fascinates me how so many people can go commit suicide in a hotel and never be identified!

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    is there any post mortem photos for this jane doe?

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    No PM photos on Namus.Maybe a phone call to the coroner/ ME office is in order?


    I am trying to imagine a scenario that brought her to this point: Maybe happily married, husband dies after long illness and medical bills,, she sells the house and most of the furnishings and moves into an apartment with small proceeds from the sale. Frugal and careful with her money, she gives up the apartment when money eventually starts to runs low, tells her friends she is going to move "elsewhere" to live (with relatives, for different climate to help her health, whatever). As she gets more and more health problems, begins walking with cane, etc., does not want "to be a burden", moves into hotel in a different city to live while carefully calculating the exact number of days she can still afford to pay for her hotel room. There are many sad stories on WS, but this UID ,especially, brings me to tears.
    Last edited by rainwater; 02-02-2015 at 10:26 PM.
    Where is Shawn Hale? https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/7546/0/ Missing from Apple Valley CA since 11/04/1994

    Where is Michelle Crawford? https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/14428/0/ Missing from Lawton, OK since 06/08/1999

    Where is Jennifer Lee Schmidt? https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4822/0/ (Missing From West Lafayette IN(Purdue University) since 08/06/85.

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